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Old 05-21-2024, 06:55 PM   #1251
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Someone just paid $24,921.60 plus tax for a Caitlin Clark Panini Instant sticker autograph card. You can still find plenty of stupid people out there.

Someone paid $23,123.23 for a fake PMG red. No serial number. Looks like red coloring over a base card.
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Old 05-21-2024, 07:11 PM   #1252
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Someone paid $23,123.23 for a fake PMG red. No serial number. Looks like red coloring over a base card.
I love cards. I love this hobby. But let's be honest, a lot of people in this hobby are on the bottom rung of human intelligence. Card shows are full of the "comic book guy."
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Old 05-21-2024, 08:13 PM   #1253
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I love cards. I love this hobby. But let's be honest, a lot of people in this hobby are on the bottom rung of human intelligence. Card shows are full of the "comic book guy."
supposedly such suckers are poor helpless victims of people like pcp manipulating the markets (which is now tantamount to fraud and screwing-over
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Old 05-21-2024, 11:53 PM   #1254
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I saw a psa 9 101 sold for 925k lol. The market has been set. Everybody run and get one. Run for your lives before it's too late.

Private sale of course
Yeah I said same thing about those "PCP private sale" PMG sales which he tried to legitimize, but he now deems the Star PSA 9 as illegitimate

I'm calling BS on both the PMG and Star "record private sales" as both were created with the same PCP jerk others for your own gain mindset

You've always loved Star cards like myself Celtics. I still have and ain't selling my 101 as it's ALWAYS been a great card

I don't need pumbois like PCP and GOATwhateverdafuc to validate my opinion and knowledge of what's great

Like I said those dudes are just in it for the money and have already sold their PMGs to the bag holders

Fly by night cash hungry parasites ain't nothing to be jealous of

I actually sympathize how sad it still is that many around these boards only think in terms of money

Tip: When you become truly wealthy you will eventually realize it's not the and be all of life. They just haven't woken up to that realization yet

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Old 05-22-2024, 12:01 AM   #1255
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Someone paid $23,123.23 for a fake PMG red. No serial number. Looks like red coloring over a base card.
Completed auction =/= paid for

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Old 05-22-2024, 10:59 AM   #1256
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Yeah I said same thing about those "PCP private sale" PMG sales which he tried to legitimize, but he now deems the Star PSA 9 as illegitimate

I'm calling BS on both the PMG and Star "record private sales" as both were created with the same PCP jerk others for your own gain mindset

You've always loved Star cards like myself Celtics. I still have and ain't selling my 101 as it's ALWAYS been a great card

I don't need pumbois like PCP and GOATwhateverdafuc to validate my opinion and knowledge of what's great

Like I said those dudes are just in it for the money and have already sold their PMGs to the bag holders

Fly by night cash hungry parasites ain't nothing to be jealous of

I actually sympathize how sad it still is that many around these boards only think in terms of money

Tip: When you become truly wealthy you will eventually realize it's not the and be all of life. They just haven't woken up to that realization yet
Starboy, who is an investorboi and pumperboi himself is calling others as investors and pumpers. These are posts about you by other members-

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Great read of old thread with some of the guys posting in this thread… starboy hyping his star cards!

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Hypocrite. Youve been an investorboi way longer than pcp. Youre just mad your investments havent worked out. Youre just mad hes actually a good investor.

Sound familiar? 90s MJ Refractors: A Good Investment?
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Old 05-22-2024, 11:27 AM   #1257
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supposedly such suckers are poor helpless victims of people like pcp manipulating the markets (which is now tantamount to fraud and screwing-over
It is funny that Starboy is mentioning my PMG Red private sale. I sold my BGS 8 through Goldin private sales for less than that what a BGS 8 sold for at Heritage auction. I did not create a fake high sale and subsequent sales have been higher than my private sale so far. He is butthurt from his "90s PMG Pumped To Ad Nauseam On Social Media" thread, which he created with me in his mind but it backfired because he was called out by others for his hypocrisy. This is why I love BO
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Old 05-22-2024, 11:34 AM   #1258
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Yeah I said same thing about those "PCP private sale" PMG sales which he tried to legitimize, but he now deems the Star PSA 9 as illegitimate

I'm calling BS on both the PMG and Star "record private sales" as both were created with the same PCP jerk others for your own gain mindset

You've always loved Star cards like myself Celtics. I still have and ain't selling my 101 as it's ALWAYS been a great card
I don't think I'd want to sell such a strongly graded copy either. I'd put it in a safe place and needn't bother looking at it

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Like I said those dudes are just in it for the money and have already sold their PMGs to the bag holders
referring to moi?
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Old 05-22-2024, 12:02 PM   #1259
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as a MJ pumperboi I'd like to recommend the '95 Silver Spotlight which really pops in person, it might just be the #1 MJ card on aesthetics. Like the 86F it's not a RC so it too has a bunch of room to grow

arguably the Silver Spotlight works better as-is with him in the white jersey, than the more usual red jersey we see on MJ cards. It would be nice to have a red-jersey variation or parallel to really compare

being a convert to the 94 SP Championship Playoff Heroes MJ, I think I'll be pumping that as well going forward

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Old 05-22-2024, 05:13 PM   #1260
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PCP you constantly deflect because you cant stand being called out

Simply because you duped alot of people for BIG money

If you really enjoy digging i can make a thread proving everything I've stated about you

I know your pumpbois need to jump in threads to try to CYA but it just supports what many on these boards already know about your rip off tactics

Frankly you really should be ashamed of yourself as well as anyone else that jumps in these threads to try to "manipulate" peoples perception on these boards

There's OGs on these boards who really know what you are

Yes even going back to your Mahomes pump and dumps schemes (just to use as a starting point)

I'll just leave it at that

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Old 05-22-2024, 05:17 PM   #1261
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as a MJ pumperboi I'd like to recommend the '95 Silver Spotlight which really pops in person, it might just be the #1 MJ card on aesthetics. Like the 86F it's not a RC so it too has a bunch of room to grow

arguably the Silver Spotlight works better as-is with him in the white jersey, than the more usual red jersey we see on MJ cards. It would be nice to have a red-jersey variation or parallel to really compare

being a convert to the 94 SP Championship Playoff Heroes MJ, I think I'll be pumping that as well going forward

Ok you do that

Whatever the hell all this gibberish means

Good for you
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Old 05-22-2024, 05:33 PM   #1262
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It is funny that Starboy is mentioning my PMG Red private sale. I sold my BGS 8 through Goldin private sales for less than that what a BGS 8 sold for at Heritage auction. I did not create a fake high sale and subsequent sales have been higher than my private sale so far. He is butthurt from his "90s PMG Pumped To Ad Nauseam On Social Media" thread, which he created with me in his mind but it backfired because he was called out by others for his hypocrisy. This is why I love BO
It backfired???

The thread was actually created as I noticed the same groupthink that purchased them after the Nat sale kept buying their own cards with auction buddies club network to drive up comps over a 4 year span just to eventually dump them to the next bag holders

Most weren't collected, they were specifically cornered and kept getting recycled between owners to create strings of bogus high comps and then brag how great PMGs are on social media. Lol

What's hilarious is that most of these new PMG owners mysteriously sold them off in private sales like the Star PSA 9 sale you have questioned

I actually think questioning and researching sales history is how we keep it real in this hobby full of scammers

I have no horse in that race as I actually don't like PMGs and sold off my semistars as they just represent cult hype imo

Give me MJs first licensed XRC Star 101 all day long over an over rated hyped 90s parallel

That's just me. It's subjective and what I like

I own many MJ parallels, just not a PMG guy especially after I saw how they were being used was all about money and a so called "legacy" that started in 2019 as a target for pumpers seeking a payday

Thats actually why I started thread....it wasnt created specifically about you (narcissistic tendencies are common in self absorbed people)

You just jumped in the thread because you had money on the line thus a horse in that race at that time, and had a reputation to uphold

But all of that doesn't really concern me

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Old 06-01-2024, 07:41 AM   #1263
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A few big MJ cards ending tonight at Goldin-

https://goldin.co/item/2003-04-upper...JkSW5kZXgiOjF9

This one is a "butt-ugly eyesore and probably the most overrated card in existence". I am surprised it is at ~240K with BP-

https://goldin.co/item/1997-98-skybo...JkSW5kZXgiOjB9
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Old 06-01-2024, 10:57 AM   #1264
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Man.. 8 is GENEROUS for that card
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Old 06-01-2024, 01:29 PM   #1265
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To be fair, it is the most overrated card in existence. Looks like an ugly base card, but holds value.
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Old 06-01-2024, 03:15 PM   #1266
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To be fair, it is the most overrated card in existence. Looks like an ugly base card, but holds value.
ok, but now can we get someone credible to say whether this is the most overrated card ever?
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Old 06-01-2024, 05:27 PM   #1267
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ok, but now can we get someone credible to say whether this is the most overrated card ever?
Do I count? I think it’s the most overrated card ever. No I don’t own one. No I don’t want one.

Although I do think the red is prettier than the green.
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Old 06-01-2024, 05:46 PM   #1268
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Is every Red and Green PMG accounted for? i.e are there any that have never surfaced or suspected to still lie in packs somewhere?
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Old 06-01-2024, 09:02 PM   #1269
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PMG look cool as the cards seem to glow under certain lighting but I also think they're overrated. And I'd much rather have a red (color match!) and save all that money over having a green.

Also so many of these PMGs have been doctored, altered, trimmed, copied, etc...I would be hesitant to pull the trigger on them.

But imagine if the red/greens were flipped and the reds were /10...
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Old 06-01-2024, 09:51 PM   #1270
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I used to own one (MJ 97 PMG Red BGS 8). It's one of the most beautiful inserts in hand in my opinion. I like it because the image of MJ dunking with his trailing shadows pops up nicely in a red foil background and also the way it shines/glows in light. If it is overrated/overpriced, then so are the high grade MJ 86F/Star 101 and other rare MJ 90's inserts such as the 97 UD GU Jersey Auto, Credentials Future, 98 Molten Metal Fusion Titanium, Star Rubies etc., in my opinion. I sold my MJ PMG Red BGS 8, Jambalaya BGS 9.5, Ultra Stars Gold BGS 9.5 and bought MJ 86F Auto PSA 8/9, 1985 Nike Promo Auto BGS 9.5 and 97 UD GU Jersey Auto (Flight School) BGS 8.5/10.

EDIT: The 97 PMG Red BGS 8 just ended at ~300K with BP at Goldin.
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Old 06-01-2024, 10:06 PM   #1271
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I used to own one (MJ 97 PMG Red BGS 8). It's one of the most beautiful inserts in hand in my opinion. I like it because the image of MJ dunking with his trailing shadows pops up nicely in a red foil background and also the way it shines/glows in light. If it is overrated/overpriced, then so are the high grade MJ 86F/Star 101 and other rare MJ 90's inserts such as the 97 UD GU Jersey Auto, Credentials Future, 98 Molten Metal Fusion Titanium, Star Rubies etc., in my opinion. I sold my MJ PMG Red BGS 8, Jambalaya BGS 9.5, Ultra Stars Gold BGS 9.5 and bought MJ 86F Auto PSA 8/9, 1985 Nike Promo Auto BGS 9.5 and 97 UD GU Jersey Auto (Flight School) BGS 8.5/10.

EDIT: The 97 PMG Red BGS 8 just ended at ~300K with BP at Goldin.
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That Ultimate Logo just keeps going and going
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Old 06-01-2024, 10:41 PM   #1273
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That Ultimate Logo just keeps going and going
Big time comp here....


The value of my Omar Jacobs Ultimate Shield Auto is going through the roof right now!
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Thank me later - card doesn't look like it is in bad condition - anybody know why it has an authentic grade instead of a number?


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I don't think PMGs are ugly, but I do think the base cards beat their ass out behind the woodshed looks-wise. If PMGs, playmaker theater, voltage 500, showcase legacy, 24kt, raise the roof, or a host of other 90s inserts or parallels were all on a table for a given player, all of them were magically worth 10 dollars and would only ever be worth the same as the others I don't think there's a scenario where I would choose the PMG in all honesty.
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