LeBron market falling?

[KhalDrogo]

Originally Posted by asujbl

You are really breaking down how you phrased "to hated for going to LA"

Yes. Considering the entire phrase was:

“to hated for going to LA and micromanaging the franchise to mediocrity save for one title during the weirdest season of professional sports you’ll ever see.”

[asujbl]

Originally Posted by KhalDrogo

Yes. Considering the entire phrase was:

“to hated for going to LA and micromanaging the franchise to mediocrity save for one title during the weirdest season of professional sports you’ll ever see.”

Interesting

[pcptrade]

Originally Posted by eastbayak

It's true lol.

My brother-in-law is a die-hard Lakers fan (since the late 90s/early 2000s) and he hates how LeBron joined the Lakers and instantly became labeled as the franchise's all-time greatest player.

Let me guess. Your brother-in-law is a die-hard Kobe fan.

[pcptrade]

Originally Posted by lebronicle

On a different note, is he an underpaid athlete? Add in the possibility of bump in ticket prices/sales during his farewell tour.

1. New York Times article from 2022- "Why LeBron James Is Worth $100 Million to the Lakers, Win or Lose"

If all James did was win basketball games, that would be more than enough. But his value goes beyond the court....

But even if James soon is no longer among the best in the world, his contract is likely to pay off for the Lakers in ways beyond wins: on the business side.

“Having his retirement date closer on the horizon creates a sense of urgency, and a scarcity effect..

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/09/03/s...-contract.html

2. Article from last year- "Even Though LeBron James Makes $49 Million a Year, Research Shows He's Significantly Underpaid."

Take LeBron James, who is on a two-year, $99,023,288 contract with the Los Angeles Lakers. Is LeBron "worth" $49 million-plus a year? The Lakers didn't win the championship last year, or the year before. Preseason rankings predict they'll finish third in the Western Conference this year.

But then there's this. According to research conducted by U.S. Naval Academy economics professor Scott Kaplan, LeBron's economic value -- and, to use another example, Steph Curry's -- to the league as a whole far exceeds their salaries.

One example? Ticket sales: Prices decrease by an average of $73 when LeBron doesn't play away games.

https://www.inc.com/jeff-haden/even-...employees.html

[threefromthetee]

Originally Posted by pcptrade

On a different note, is he an underpaid athlete? Add in the possibility of bump in ticket prices/sales during his farewell tour.

1. New York Times article from 2022- "Why LeBron James Is Worth $100 Million to the Lakers, Win or Lose"

If all James did was win basketball games, that would be more than enough. But his value goes beyond the court....

But even if James soon is no longer among the best in the world, his contract is likely to pay off for the Lakers in ways beyond wins: on the business side.

“Having his retirement date closer on the horizon creates a sense of urgency, and a scarcity effect..

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/09/03/s...-contract.html

2. Article from last year- "Even Though LeBron James Makes $49 Million a Year, Research Shows He's Significantly Underpaid."

Take LeBron James, who is on a two-year, $99,023,288 contract with the Los Angeles Lakers. Is LeBron "worth" $49 million-plus a year? The Lakers didn't win the championship last year, or the year before. Preseason rankings predict they'll finish third in the Western Conference this year.

But then there's this. According to research conducted by U.S. Naval Academy economics professor Scott Kaplan, LeBron's economic value -- and, to use another example, Steph Curry's -- to the league as a whole far exceeds their salaries.

One example? Ticket sales: Prices decrease by an average of $73 when LeBron doesn't play away games.

https://www.inc.com/jeff-haden/even-...employees.html

Already starting the pump that isn’t coming. Gimme a break.

[asujbl]

Originally Posted by threefromthetee

Already starting the pump that isn’t coming. Gimme a break.

Which part is making you mad?

[pcptrade]

Originally Posted by asujbl

Which part is making you mad?

Why LeBron James Is Worth $100 Million to the Lakers, Win or Lose

Even Though LeBron James Makes $49 Million a Year, Research Shows He's Significantly Underpaid. Prices decrease by an average of $73 when LeBron doesn't play away games

This is with all the haters. Imagine if he was less polarizing

[eastbayak]

Originally Posted by pcptrade

Let me guess. Your brother-in-law is a die-hard Kobe fan.

Hahaha 150%.

Die-hard Kobe fans view LeBron's time as a Laker a threat to Kobe's legacy (as a Laker).

I don't understand why though, Kobe isn't even a top 3 (now top 4 with LeBron) all-time Laker.

[pcptrade]

Speaking of Right card at the Right time. Was last year a good time to pick up the Lebron 2005 LL/50?

https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/premier-auction/7861

https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/3695242

Sale from last night-

https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/premier-auction/13369

[hermanotarjeta]

Originally Posted by pcptrade

Speaking of Right card at the Right time. Was last year a good time to pick up the Lebron 2005 LL/50?

https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/premier-auction/7861

https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/3695242

Sale from last night-

https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/premier-auction/13369

How often does that card pop up?

[pcptrade]

Originally Posted by hermanotarjeta

How often does that card pop up?

It's his third year card. There were seven different sales last year, including a BGS 9.5 that sold for $26,400 in Jan 2023

https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/premier-auction/6687?

A BGS 9 fetched 30K last night

https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/premier-auction/13369

EDIT: These were selling for 5K-6K in 2017 when this thread was created.

[rhigh2390]

Originally Posted by eastbayak

Hahaha 150%.

Die-hard Kobe fans view LeBron's time as a Laker a threat to Kobe's legacy (as a Laker).

I don't understand why though, Kobe isn't even a top 3 (now top 4 with LeBron) all-time Laker.

You think lebron is a better all-time Laker than Kobe??

[mjekase]

Originally Posted by eastbayak

Hahaha 150%.

Die-hard Kobe fans view LeBron's time as a Laker a threat to Kobe's legacy (as a Laker).

I don't understand why though, Kobe isn't even a top 3 (now top 4 with LeBron) all-time Laker.

There is no argument to be made that Lebron is a greater Laker than Kobe.

[asujbl]

Originally Posted by rhigh2390

You think lebron is a better all-time Laker than Kobe??

Originally Posted by mjekase

There is no argument to be made that Lebron is a greater Laker than Kobe.

I don’t care about any of this but I feel like you guys don’t know how to read

[mjekase]

Originally Posted by asujbl

I don’t care about any of this but I feel like you guys don’t know how to read

How so?

[blackbears86]

Originally Posted by asujbl

You deleting your account would be the most admirable thing you’ve done in your lifetime

Maybe a two for one deal with LeBron?

He signs with the Cavs and you leave

It would be so awesome

OMG


Best post ever.

[blackbears86]

Originally Posted by hermanotarjeta

Topps Bron rookie - $200 and falling.

Psa 10 Topps chrome Bron refractor rookie - $20k and falling.

Prizm silver Bron Laker second year rookie - $10 and falling.

The value of grilling Bron on the BO message boards? Priceless.

I'll kick in a hundo.


Note to hermano: You are absolutely insufferable.

You used to have reasonable posts. Now your posts are horrible. Why do you revel in working people up?

Do you need the attention that much?

[blackbears86]

Originally Posted by hermanotarjeta;19456757[B

]I gave him credit for as high as three quarters a ring for that one during the pandemic.
[/B]
But reason set in and now it’s back to half a ring again.

LOVE this garbage.


If it was any team besides the Lakers, this would never be discussed.

[hermanotarjeta]

Originally Posted by blackbears86

LOVE this garbage.


If it was any team besides the Lakers, this would never be discussed.

We understand that Bron bois need full credit for the half ring for Bron to keep up with Steph/Klay/Dray/Iggy, and Tony P/Manu at four rings, because the fact that the Warriors and Spurs dominated Bron in the finals would make him look even worse without it.

[blackbears86]

Originally Posted by hermanotarjeta

We understand that Bron bois need full credit for the half ring for Bron to keep up with Steph/Klay/Dray/Iggy, and Tony P/Manu at four rings, because the fact that the Warriors and Spurs dominated Bron in the finals would make him look even worse without it.

Hilarious take.

What will it take to make you go away?

[Kingofkings1281]

Originally Posted by hermanotarjeta

We understand that Bron bois need full credit for the half ring for Bron to keep up with Steph/Klay/Dray/Iggy, and Tony P/Manu at four rings, because the fact that the Warriors and Spurs dominated Bron in the finals would make him look even worse without it.

You are truly unbearable.

[drobfan8]

Originally Posted by blackbears86

LOVE this garbage.


If it was any team besides the Lakers, this would never be discussed.

I really disagree.

Steph and KD were injured all season.

It was a vacant title.

If anyone else won there would always be ??

I've always said it counts fine, but it's a fact it's one of the weakest of all time.

[Kingofkings1281]

Originally Posted by drobfan8

I really disagree.

Steph and KD were injured all season.

It was a vacant title.

If anyone else won there would always be ??

I've always said it counts fine, but it's a fact it's one of the weakest of all time.

About as weak as the lockout shortened season championship against a Knicks team led by Latrell Sprewell.

[hermanotarjeta]

Originally Posted by blackbears86

Hilarious take.

What will it take to make you go away?

When Bron stops doing millennial thangs.