2024 Topps Heritage Mini This Year? Yes!

[mfw13]

Originally Posted by kyle1707

Let it be cheap and let people make there sets

Except it's not actually cheap.....yes, it's $50/box, but you only get 12 packs. Remember, regular Heritage has 24 packs/box.

So on a per pack basis, it's actually more expensive than regular Heritage.

And with only 2 SP's per box, it's going to be a lot harder to complete the set if there are in fact 100 SP's like regular Heritage.

[ThoseBackPages]

Originally Posted by mfw13

Except for the fact that the hobby is completely different now than it was in 1975.

Back then, the minis were a limited test release in a unique format (that didn't catch on), and there was only one product released every year.

Now you have 100+ products being released every year, and a variety of different product include mini-sized cards. So there's nothing really unique about them.

What made previous Heritage minis interesting is that they were #/100 and therefore very hard to find. Without the scarcity factor, I'm not sure how much collector interest there will be if it's identical to regular Heritage.

it will sell just fine as is. topps knows their target addicts. there is no need to do anything extra to sell this release

[jduds]

Originally Posted by mfw13

Except for the fact that the hobby is completely different now than it was in 1975.

Back then, the minis were a limited test release in a unique format (that didn't catch on), and there was only one product released every year.

Now you have 100+ products being released every year, and a variety of different product include mini-sized cards. So there's nothing really unique about them.

What made previous Heritage minis interesting is that they were #/100 and therefore very hard to find. Without the scarcity factor, I'm not sure how much collector interest there will be if it's identical to regular Heritage.

I'd guess interest will be similar to other recent Mini releases. 2022 was the last, but there was definitely some disappointed folks that 2023 didn't happen, or at least hasn't yet. It's not one that sets the world on fire even with great odds. While the 1975 design is popular, I don't see this being that much more sought after than 2022 Mini. That's great for set builders and I'm thrilled they went with a similar format to other Mini releases.

[auctionjmm]

Originally Posted by mfw13

If it's the EXACT same format and checklist as regular Heritage, then meh....I'll save my "wax ripping" budget for Chrome Platinum Anniversary.

Now if it's got some of the HOFers/retired players that were included as Box Toppers in regular Heritage, or has some other wrinkles that make it different, then it might be a fun rip.

Well, it can't be exact if there are three numbered parallels per box in Mini. The numbered parallels are the wrinkle. Whether they are Chrome, or a different color border, etc. we do not yet know. But it's clear there are going to be parallels and perhaps that does mean a reduction in some of the regular content or even a reduction in checklist size, albeit with a focus on parallels as well.

[mikejones]

Originally Posted by mikejones

My guess is that topps will limit the production of mini. The 3 base card parallel will be chrome and consist of chrome /999, chrome/575, chrome /375, chrome /75, chrome /5, and chrome /1. I just can't see them printing this to Uranus like heritage but I could be wrong. ��

I was right about having 3 # cards. If it's chrome, then kudos to topps. This might be a sleeper product at $50 buy in price. Sounds like a solid deal.

Or topps can introduce parallels like the ones in target monster boxes and number them to /4999.

[mikejones]

Singles up on ebay. Minis aren't chrome. Blacks actually has serial stamping. Throwbacks doesn't seem as limited as hobby.

[ThoseBackPages]

no need for minis to be chrome

[FatButcher]

Originally Posted by mikejones

Singles up on ebay. Minis aren't chrome. Blacks actually has serial stamping. Throwbacks doesn't seem as limited as hobby.

Importantly the stamping is ON THE BACK! Why they messed that up with full size Heritage is a head scratcher.

[ThoseBackPages]

Originally Posted by FatButcher

Importantly the stamping is ON THE BACK! Why they messed that up with full size Heritage is a head scratcher.

yes!!

[mikejones]

Autos of minis. Honest opinion. This is a great deal at $50 based on what I've heard. Get your alarm clock ready for the sale on Wednesday. This will sell out pretty fast.

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[cj828282]

Already a complete SP set up. We are behind the times already and the product has not released!

[ThoseBackPages]

Originally Posted by cj828282

Already a complete SP set up. We are behind the times already and the product has not released!

LOVE IT!

[cj828282]

Ordered 5 boxes from a card shop in LV on a whim last week and have already shipped. Very interesting how some shops have this early.

[mfw13]

Originally Posted by mikejones

Singles up on ebay. Minis aren't chrome. Blacks actually has serial stamping. Throwbacks doesn't seem as limited as hobby.

How the heck is this happening????

Is Topps backdooring stuff prior to release? It's not like this is a situation where some people are getting cases early....Topps hasn't even put the product up for sale yet!

[cj828282]

Originally Posted by mfw13

How the heck is this happening????

Is Topps backdooring stuff prior to release? It's not like this is a situation where some people are getting cases early....Topps hasn't even put the product up for sale yet!

Yeah, this never happens with online releases but something is up with this one.

[mikejones]

It's not backdoor. Some shops get stuff in early a day or two. Now if this was listed last week, then that would be fishy.

[cj828282]

Originally Posted by ThoseBackPages

LOVE IT!

The seller had 16 complete sets and sold 14 already at $1500. That does not seem possible.

[ThoseBackPages]

Originally Posted by cj828282

The seller had 16 complete sets and sold 14 already at $1500. That does not seem possible.

that is pretty wild.

wonder if they'll ship regular sized

[mikejones]

Originally Posted by cj828282

The seller had 16 complete sets and sold 14 already at $1500. That does not seem possible.

It's possible, some LCS got their shipment today. With a team of 3, you can open a bunch of cases in a short amount of time. 12 packs per box and 10 boxes per case. It's possible.

[StlBen]

Or you know people post things for sale before they have them in hand.

[cj828282]

Originally Posted by mikejones

It's possible, some LCS got their shipment today. With a team of 3, you can open a bunch of cases in a short amount of time. 12 packs per box and 10 boxes per case. It's possible.

Ok, so the math tells me that with 3 SP per box that for 16 sets it would take at least 533 boxes of 55.3 cases to complete that many sets. Thats a lot of product and I wonder about the PR of the product now.

[cj828282]

Looks like the checklist includes all 400 base and 100 SP in the regular set based on the addition of the complete base sets.

[mfw13]

Originally Posted by mikejones

It's not backdoor. Some shops get stuff in early a day or two. Now if this was listed last week, then that would be fishy.

If it was a normal product that had been solicited the normal way, yes.

But this is an online release....

[mikejones]

Originally Posted by cj828282

Ok, so the math tells me that with 3 SP per box that for 16 sets it would take at least 533 boxes of 55.3 cases to complete that many sets. Thats a lot of product and I wonder about the PR of the product now.

My only guess is that sps are not 1 in 3 but 1 per pack. That does sound fishy how that seller can have so many sets available.

[mikejones]

Originally Posted by mfw13

If it was a normal product that had been solicited the normal way, yes.

But this is an online release....

I don't think this is an online exclusive release. Shops were able to place direct orders on the product.