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Old 04-19-2024, 11:02 PM   #1926
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Old 04-20-2024, 05:34 PM   #1927
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0 for 4 3ks

So when do his cards start cratering
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Old 04-21-2024, 12:48 PM   #1928
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So when do his cards start cratering
Maybe give it a more than a couple of weeks to say boom or bust, e.g. Elly
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Old 04-21-2024, 02:58 PM   #1929
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It’s over, Johnny.
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Old 04-21-2024, 03:09 PM   #1930
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So when do his cards start cratering

How are auctions for his stuff compared w Feb/ March? Gotta be down 1/4-1/2 I’d assume.
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Old 04-21-2024, 03:24 PM   #1931
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Amazing thing is that he's already at 0.5 bWAR despite the slow start, a 4 bWAR pace I believe even if the struggles continue.

As Dan mentioned in Spring 2023, his baseline is so high even if he doesn't hit well. He's made some improvements on some of his weaker points from last season, hopefully he gets back on track soon with his normal stuff. Even sans the huge power numbers, his base running in particular and his ability to get on base is extremely valuable in real life.
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Old 04-21-2024, 11:55 PM   #1932
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How are auctions for his stuff compared w Feb/ March? Gotta be down 1/4-1/2 I’d assume.
His peak in my Price Index was Feb 19 at $450. As of April 17 he was down to $250. That's from a start of $300 though.
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Old 04-24-2024, 12:34 PM   #1933
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Hurts seeing Carroll bat 7th with a righty on the mound. Hoping he can get his groove back…
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Old 04-24-2024, 12:56 PM   #1934
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Maybe give it a more than a couple of weeks to say boom or bust, e.g. Elly
I’m a Dodgers fan but it’s gonna take more than a few weeks to convince me he’s not a total stud. I’m still buying.
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Old 04-24-2024, 12:56 PM   #1935
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I would not be concerned about a slow start. I would be concerned about shoulder weakness. Did he have a swing change?
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Old 04-24-2024, 03:42 PM   #1936
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Hard to tell, he could be trying to play through an injury, which never seems to work out but sometimes 60% of someone is better than 100% of the replacement. However, that will kill his market in the near term.

Upon mid season last year, his Topps Heritage Real One Auto PSA 10 copies were around $1,000 each. They dropped by the end of the year to around $600 -- his market softened a bit as more came out as well as more were graded.

That same card is now for sale on the B/S/T section for $250 with no bites and similarly around that price on ebay. Pretty dramatic fall really
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Old 04-28-2024, 05:43 PM   #1937
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Not even top 4 in batting lineup. He’s been terrible. One hit wonder.
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Old 04-28-2024, 05:52 PM   #1938
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I just posted this in a different thread, hobby guys off to slow starts, for any DBack fans out there who regularly watch the games, are Carroll’s at bats looking as bad as the boxscore?


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Old 04-29-2024, 12:08 AM   #1939
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Yes. It looks to me like he's releasing his top hand too early and not getting the back shoulder into his swing at all. I buy the playing hurt hypothesis.
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Old 05-01-2024, 12:27 AM   #1940
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Turns out… this kid is actually not good
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Old 05-01-2024, 02:07 AM   #1941
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I think he just needs a trip to the IL to heal his shoulder. Trying to play through the injury isn’t helping anyone.
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Old 05-01-2024, 05:23 AM   #1942
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Yes. It looks to me like he's releasing his top hand too early and not getting the back shoulder into his swing at all. I buy the playing hurt hypothesis.
That is true, but it also seems like he isn't seeing the ball real well. He has been swinging at a lot of bad pitches and taking good ones. All around his at bats have just looked bad.
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Old 05-01-2024, 11:37 AM   #1943
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Wasted fantasy pick so far. What a bum
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Old 05-01-2024, 01:26 PM   #1944
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I think he just needs a trip to the IL to heal his shoulder. Trying to play through the injury isn’t helping anyone.
From what I understand, they've identified a weak zone for him and are attacking him up and in constantly until he figures it out.

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The shoulder seems like a chronic issue.
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Old 05-01-2024, 02:34 PM   #1946
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Old 05-19-2024, 08:39 AM   #1947
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So what’s the deal? This is shaping up to be the worst sophomore slump of all time. Did hit a triple last night.
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Old 05-19-2024, 11:01 AM   #1949
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Amazing thing is that he's already at 0.5 bWAR despite the slow start, a 4 bWAR pace I believe even if the struggles continue.

As Dan mentioned in Spring 2023, his baseline is so high even if he doesn't hit well. He's made some improvements on some of his weaker points from last season, hopefully he gets back on track soon with his normal stuff. Even sans the huge power numbers, his base running in particular and his ability to get on base is extremely valuable in real life.
So in the span of basically a month, he's down -.6 WAR as he's at -0.1 bWAR right now. Which is still incredible for how awful he is hitting right now.

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So what’s the deal? This is shaping up to be the worst sophomore slump of all time. Did hit a triple last night.
You ain't kidding, this is awful stuff. Like Cody Bellinger drop off bad.
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His last SB was April 17. He’s only attempted 1 SB since then. Seems obvious that he is injured. I guess he and the team will just continue to force the issue?
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