Will Mickey Mantle cards decrease?

[livealoha]

Hey guys,

With alot of collectors starting to age abs a newer generation starting in the hobby, Will Mickey Mantle cards stand the test of time or decrease in price over time as all these new collectors like ohtani, acuna jr. , Trout and Harper! Most new collectors and never heard of Mickey Mantle. I wonder if this will hurt his card values over time?

[discodanman45]

Most new collectors will hear of Mickey Mantle if they stay in collecting. The history of collecting cards will never let his name die. The 1952 Topps Mantle card will be highlighted in glass cases like fine pieces of art during card shows. Babe Ruth hasn't played a game in 90 years and his cards are doing fine.

Going up and down depends on the greater card market, not on the name Mantle. If interest remains high on cards, his card will continue to appreciate in value. If card interest decreases, his card will decrease.

[NickyCards]

I think of it like this, if you ask anyone what the greatest card ever is, most will say the '52 Mantle. The legend of Mickey himself is huge. The generation that got to watch him play passed down those stories to their grandkids. My grandfather told me Mickey was the best ballplayer he had seen. I think Mickeys cards are safe, and would only really dip if we saw drastic decline in card interest, which I don't see happening with Fanatics at the helm.

[jcmel323]

old original mantle cards right?


then yes... increase

[BBases31]

Originally Posted by livealoha

Hey guys,

With alot of collectors starting to age abs a newer generation starting in the hobby, Will Mickey Mantle cards stand the test of time or decrease in price over time as all these new collectors like ohtani, acuna jr. , Trout and Harper!

Sounds like you could've said the same thing about Cobb and Wagner in the 60s when Mantle, Mays, and Williams were the Ohtani, Acuna, and Harper of the time. The all time greats don't lose their greatness or aura.

Most new collectors and never heard of Mickey Mantle. I wonder if this will hurt his card values over time?

Lol everyone has heard of Mickey Mantle. Even an 8 year old collector.

[jtclockwork]

Mantle will be fine. All the big name HOFers will as well. Modern cards have so many throwbacks to old vintages and issues that vintage as a whole is a good bet IMHO. The only market that seems to have really crumbled is post-war vintage commons. People aren't putting sets together like they used to.

[jchcollins]

Mantle will be just fine. He has 40+ years at this point of people asking this same question, and the answer is always the same.

[livealoha]

Originally Posted by jchcollins

Mantle will be just fine. He has 40+ years at this point of people asking this same question, and the answer is always the same.

Times are different not since almost no one in the hobby “collects” anymore. Everyone is trying flip and make money in the hobby nowadays!

[ReggieBush22]

Mantle is on the Mt. Rushmore of this hobby. His name will never be forgotten.

[rats60]

Yes. Mantle cards have been decreasing, but so has vintage. Mantle cards will always move with the postwar vintage, up, down or stay the same.

[Above the Rim]

Was watching a really nice centered '69 Aaron PSA 8, ended at 1274. - could be a new all time high for that card.

Here's the trick - Centering (and registration, and lack of print blips, and no tilt cut, and good color). Yeah, vast majority of vintage may be decreasing, because nearly all of vintage is not centered. When you get that rare card that actually is near perfect centered with all the other qualities you look for, Cha Ching, big money nowadays. Prices are strong for the sweet centered copies.

[vintg]

Originally Posted by Above the Rim

Was watching a really nice centered '69 Aaron PSA 8, ended at 1274. - could be a new all time high for that card.

Here's the trick - Centering (and registration, and lack of print blips, and no tilt cut, and good color). Yeah, vast majority of vintage may be decreasing, because nearly all of vintage is not centered. When you get that rare card that actually is near perfect centered with all the other qualities you look for, Cha Ching, big money nowadays. Prices are strong for the sweet centered copies.

you are spot on.

even in lower grades.

i've been banging this drum for at least five years.

every day, every week, every month, every year, more people are getting
"on" the centering train.

makes the chase fun, that's for damn sure.

[ReggieBush22]

^^^^^^^

Was watching this card. Seller offered a discount of $500 overnight while i was sleeping. Some other watcher jumped on this immediately. I was disappointed because i would've probably bought it. Amazing eye appeal for a 1.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/23550172789...mis&media=COPY

[discodanman45]

Centering is important, but registration for me is number one. Paper loss, creases, snowing, poor print quality, and poor surface does not make up for perfect centering. I think the centering aspect has gotten way out of hand personally. I hope it continues though and people stay away from the slightly off centered cards and give me a discount.

[VanLingoMungo46]

I always cringe when I hear people selling cards and they say, "this can only go up."

[raddoc25]

Originally Posted by Above the Rim

Was watching a really nice centered '69 Aaron PSA 8, ended at 1274. - could be a new all time high for that card.

Here's the trick - Centering (and registration, and lack of print blips, and no tilt cut, and good color). Yeah, vast majority of vintage may be decreasing, because nearly all of vintage is not centered. When you get that rare card that actually is near perfect centered with all the other qualities you look for, Cha Ching, big money nowadays. Prices are strong for the sweet centered copies.

I'm a total centering snob. To me, it's what you notice first about a card and an off center card jumps out at you immediately. That said, the price difference between a perfectly centered card and a minimally off center card (55/45) can be immense and it's crazy what people will pay for that perfect centering. From my own personal experience of trying to hunt down perfectly centered cards, I'd say less than 1 out of every 20 copies I look at (of any grade from PSA 1-7) are dead centered.

[Stifle]

The only way his cards devalue is if MLB no longer continues or the .0000001 that Mantle had done something that was kept a secret for roughly 55 years.

[Above the Rim]

1 out of 20 that are dead centered may be generous. I would almost go 1 out of 20 may be better than 55/45 one way and 50/50 the other, with no tilt cut.

[49ersSF]

As the boomers die off (which is near) there should be a substantial loss in interest in Mantle. He'll always maintain a premium but the big decrease in demand should drop it a bit.

[jchcollins]

Originally Posted by 49ersSF

As the boomers die off (which is near) there should be a substantial loss in interest in Mantle. He'll always maintain a premium but the big decrease in demand should drop it a bit.

Riiight. The same way the demand dropped off a bit for Ruth and Cobb? When I first got back into this hobby as an adult, you could buy a PSA 1 Goudey Ruth for about $1000. What do they cost today? Him and his fans have been gone for a lot longer than Mantle’s have. And due respect to Ruth’s stature in the game, he was never anywhere near as popular as Mantle has proven to be in the hobby.

I think the next big boom we see with vintage, and it may be a while - but like the next 2020 - we’ll see most of the early Mantle cards in any condition become out of reach for the average collector. No matter how long those who saw him play have been dead.

[ReggieBush22]

Originally Posted by jchcollins

Riiight. The same way the demand dropped off a bit for Ruth and Cobb? When I first got back into this hobby as an adult, you could buy a PSA 1 Goudey Ruth for about $1000. What do they cost today? Him and his fans have been gone for a lot longer than Mantle’s have. And due respect to Ruth’s stature in the game, he was never anywhere near as popular as Mantle has proven to be in the hobby.

I think the next big boom we see with vintage, and it may be a while - but like the next 2020 - we’ll see most of the early Mantle cards in any condition become out of reach for the average collector. No matter how long those who saw him play have been dead.

Exactly

Icons stand the test of time and their legend lives on. Like you said, Ruth has been dead for decades yet his cards remain one of the must haves for vintage collectors. Mantle, although not nearly the icon as Ruth was in the general public's eye, is just as relevant as an icon in this realm, the baseball card hobby.

[AwesomeBrian]

Went to a vintage show yesterday, Mantle all over it and prices still strong

[rnocards]

I think Mickey's cards will continue to increase in value. I just got back a 1956 Mantle that was PSA graded Poor 1. These Mantle cards are so thrilling to have, even in the lowest of grades.

[crazy4kinsler]

I was curious about vintage in general. It seems to be going down in value overall. I'm just now starting to show interest in vintage, but I don't want to get into it if it's going to continue to decrease. So just curious people's thoughts.

As far as Mantle, himself, yes he will continue to be popular. Everyone who collect/buys/trades/flips/does anything with baseball cards will forever and always know who Mantle is.

[jchcollins]

Originally Posted by crazy4kinsler

I was curious about vintage in general. It seems to be going down in value overall. I'm just now starting to show interest in vintage, but I don't want to get into it if it's going to continue to decrease. So just curious people's thoughts.

Vintage (pre-1980) cards have not lost value on the whole in nearly 50 years now. They may fluctuate along with the rest of the economy in a cyclical pattern, but I would not bet on vintage continuing to "decrease".

At some point for most collectors who truly do cards as a hobby, you have to remain interested in the sport and the cards themselves over and above only pure financial considerations. Sure, it's nice for your hobby to retain some value / help you out at some point, but for me that is not the chief consideration.