Flawless FOTL Starts at $1,500...Per Card

cms11 · 03-17-2024, 01:41 PM

We live in strange times, folks.

https://www.paniniamerica.net/1st-of...-card-box.html

Nomad · 03-17-2024, 01:47 PM

Okay, I did the math. It's worth it, just barely, given the on-card Wembanyama autos in play. Panini continues to hold fast to its traditional commitment to providing break-even value in product.

hermanotarjeta · 03-17-2024, 01:54 PM

Good lord!

A manufactured bill russell patch in flawless?

Panini must really think those break participants are idiots who will buy anything.

All for $17k.

Jeez.

sportzluvr1 · 03-17-2024, 02:04 PM

Breakers will buy. Monster hits are tracked

jcardstore · 03-17-2024, 02:10 PM

And the degenerates will keep pulling the lever so it doesn’t matter

jcardstore · 03-17-2024, 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nomad

Okay, I did the math. It's worth it, just barely, given the on-card Wembanyama autos in play. Panini continues to hold fast to its traditional commitment to providing break-even value in product.

This is the most masterful trolling of all time. It’s truly beautiful

hermanotarjeta · 03-17-2024, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by jcardstore

And the degenerates will keep pulling the lever so it doesn’t matter

Can't wait for the first sticker autos, panini points and redemptions in flawless!

SlickRick · 03-17-2024, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Nomad

Okay, I did the math. It's worth it, just barely, given the on-card Wembanyama autos in play. Panini continues to hold fast to its traditional commitment to providing break-even value in product.

Love that they're getting Flawless out early this year, so we can pull those Wemby and Brandon Miller autos

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Chris P · 03-17-2024, 02:35 PM

Don't forget influencers like Packman who open this stuff "for us"

oldgoldy97 · 03-17-2024, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris P

Don't forget influencers like Packman who open this stuff "for us"

oldgoldy97 · 03-17-2024, 02:46 PM

If anyone is on YouTube long enough I figure they get offered something from the manufacturers.

KhalDrogo · 03-17-2024, 03:08 PM

Getting it out before the 2023 season ends. Well done Poopini.

Braswell10 · 03-17-2024, 03:18 PM

If you actually buy this, you seriously need to find some help. Call the gambling hotline or see a psychiatrist.

The only people buying this are group breakers or gambling addicts.

Braswell10 · 03-17-2024, 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SlickRick

Love that they're getting Flawless out early this year, so we can pull those Wemby and Brandon Miller autos

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Quote:

Originally Posted by KhalDrogo

Getting it out before the 2023 season ends. Well done Poopini.

Guys this is 2022-23 Flawless, this is last years rookie class. Wemby is not in this…

SlickRick · 03-17-2024, 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Braswell10

Guys this is 2022-23 Flawless, this is last years rookie class. Wemby is not in this…

No the year is 2024. Obviously that's a typo. Wemby logoman gonna be huuuge

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boxbuster7 · 03-17-2024, 03:29 PM

the fact it is almost the end of the 2023/2024 season and they're still releasing 2022/2023 products is just insane.

KhalDrogo · 03-17-2024, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Braswell10

Guys this is 2022-23 Flawless, this is last years rookie class. Wemby is not in this…

Sense my sarcasm better next time.

mbrahv1984 · 03-17-2024, 03:30 PM

Isn't Victor signed exclusively to Fanatics for autographs? What changed?

Chris P · 03-17-2024, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by mbrahv1984

Isn't Victor signed exclusively to Fanatics for autographs? What changed?

He is..people are just being sarcastic..this isnt even a 2023-24 product

cms11 · 03-17-2024, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris P

He is..people are just being sarcastic..this isnt even a 2023-24 product

2023-24 Flawless will be $2,000 per card.

mbrahv1984 · 03-17-2024, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris P

He is..people are just being sarcastic..this isnt even a 2023-24 product

I don't think Nomad is being sarcastic (he doesn't do sarcasm), that is why I asked lol.

oshmeehan · 03-17-2024, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by hermanotarjeta

Good lord!

A manufactured bill russell patch in flawless?

Panini must really think those break participants are idiots who will buy anything.

All for $17k.

Jeez.

It isn't a manufactured patch, it is a patch the Celtics wore on their jerseys after Russell passed.

So who is the idiot?

hermanotarjeta · 03-17-2024, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by oshmeehan

It isn't a manufactured patch, it is a patch the Celtics wore on their jerseys after Russell passed.

So who is the idiot?

Are you sure?

The sell sheet makes it sound like it's a bill russell patch in EVERY SINGLE FOTL BOX.

Those patches can be bought on line for $15 each.

hermanotarjeta · 03-17-2024, 04:02 PM

If they make 300 FOTL boxes (200 card base set with bronze parallels numbered to 3 each, with two per box) and one bill russell patch per box, that's about 3 commemorative patches used for each of the 100 active players in the base set. Plausible, I suppose, but with a manufactured patch the product would still sell to the breakers. Not sure that Russel patch EVEN IF GAME USED is worth the extra $4500 they are charging this year.

KhalDrogo · 03-17-2024, 04:05 PM

300 FOTL boxes last year. Those Russell patches are going to be some obscure player used material at best.

03-17-2024, 01:41 PM	#1
cms11 Member Join Date: Apr 2022 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 1,395	Flawless FOTL Starts at $1,500...Per Card We live in strange times, folks. https://www.paniniamerica.net/1st-of...-card-box.html

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03-17-2024, 03:08 PM	#12
KhalDrogo Member Join Date: Aug 2017 Posts: 41,268	Getting it out before the 2023 season ends. Well done Poopini. __________________ I love PSA!

03-17-2024, 01:47 PM	#2
Nomad Banned Join Date: Jul 2021 Location: Fomenting FOMO on the down low. Posts: 8,094	Okay, I did the math. It's worth it, just barely, given the on-card Wembanyama autos in play. Panini continues to hold fast to its traditional commitment to providing break-even value in product.

03-17-2024, 01:54 PM	#3
hermanotarjeta Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 21,871	Good lord! A manufactured bill russell patch in flawless? Panini must really think those break participants are idiots who will buy anything. All for $17k. Jeez.

03-17-2024, 02:35 PM	#9
Chris P Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 14,822	Don't forget influencers like Packman who open this stuff "for us"

03-17-2024, 03:18 PM	#13
Braswell10 Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Florida Posts: 9,472 o7star	If you actually buy this, you seriously need to find some help. Call the gambling hotline or see a psychiatrist. The only people buying this are group breakers or gambling addicts.

03-17-2024, 03:29 PM	#16
boxbuster7 Member Join Date: Aug 2016 Posts: 12,632 boxbuster777	the fact it is almost the end of the 2023/2024 season and they're still releasing 2022/2023 products is just insane. __________________ Psa 9 > psa 10

03-17-2024, 03:30 PM	#18
mbrahv1984 Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: Indiana Posts: 448 Mbrahv1984 Mbrahv1984	Isn't Victor signed exclusively to Fanatics for autographs? What changed? __________________ I collect the Bulls, Whitesox, 49ers, Colts, Blackhawks, Jordan, 90's inserts.

03-17-2024, 04:02 PM	#24
hermanotarjeta Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 21,871	If they make 300 FOTL boxes (200 card base set with bronze parallels numbered to 3 each, with two per box) and one bill russell patch per box, that's about 3 commemorative patches used for each of the 100 active players in the base set. Plausible, I suppose, but with a manufactured patch the product would still sell to the breakers. Not sure that Russel patch EVEN IF GAME USED is worth the extra $4500 they are charging this year.

03-17-2024, 04:05 PM	#25
KhalDrogo Member Join Date: Aug 2017 Posts: 41,268	300 FOTL boxes last year. Those Russell patches are going to be some obscure player used material at best. __________________ I love PSA!