Is theft becoming normalized in the United States?

[corndog]

Originally Posted by Blazed

Pretty obtuse of you. I thought you were better than that.

So blame the students? Sounds about right.

It's also based on data. Why are all the title 1 schools in poor/low income areas? Why is there more crime/theft in poor/low income areas?

The problem is right in front of you.

I apologize for the poor wording.
I did edit my post four minutes before you posted this to explain what your ignorance was regarding (teaching profession) - not that YOU were ignorant.

Sorry about that.

I am very defensive of teachers since I am married to one and am VERY familiar with parental lacking.

[asujbl]

Originally Posted by Siberian13

It’s only about theft being normalized. The answer is yes. Stop teaching kids it’s ok to steal. Be a better parent and teach them right from wrong. Case closed

Everything else in here is because they won’t open up the poli thread for Chapman

I stole so much today. F them kids

[Siberian13]

Originally Posted by asujbl

I stole so much today. F them kids

That’s the spirit!

[TheFrenzy]

Originally Posted by corndog

I am very defensive of teachers since I am married to one and am VERY familiar with parental lacking.

The hard part is being a teacher and a parent.

It's a tricky balance of advocating for your kid's best education and not being a pain in the #@#@#@.

[Blazed]

Originally Posted by corndog

I apologize for the poor wording.
I did edit my post four minutes before you posted this to explain what your ignorance was regarding (teaching profession) - not that YOU were ignorant.

Sorry about that.

I am very defensive of teachers since I am married to one and am VERY familiar with parental lacking.

I see, I missed the edit.

It wasn't meant to be offensive towards teachers, I know there's good and bad, but good teachers complain to parents and to each other and it stops there.

If teachers are as upset as they sound, why aren't they uniting and demanding change? Funny, the only thing I ever see them protesting is pay.

My opinions are based on what I see with my own kids and what I hear around the communities in the area.

I've also had discussions with my kid's teachers and I wasn't impressed.

We're also not in a low income area, so it's not just title 1 schools this is a problem at, but they are the biggest area of concern.

[Blazed]

Originally Posted by asujbl

Not to me

The fact it happened right after you said this.

The timing was impeccable

[marl1220]

Originally Posted by Blazed

I see, I missed the edit.

It wasn't meant to be offensive towards teachers, I know there's good and bad, but good teachers complain to parents and to each other and it stops there.

If teachers are as upset as they sound, why aren't they uniting and demanding change? Funny, the only thing I ever see them protesting is pay.

My opinions are based on what I see with my own kids and what I hear around the communities in the area.

I've also had discussions with my kid's teachers and I wasn't impressed.

We're also not in a low income area, so it's not just title 1 schools this is a problem at, but they are the biggest area of concern.

Teachers do not have as much power as you seem to think they have. They are constantly asking parents to help, sending info and materials home for them to use with their children. Then you have the all mighty board of education. A board that is made up of people who have ZERO idea what is happening in our schools, yet they seem to know what is best. This includes the curriculum that is to be taught in the schools and how it is supposed to be taught. That's right. Teachers have to teach what they are told to teach, and how they are told to teach it. Teacher have no say in the matter. I agree with you on one point. The education system is broken. It is not however, the teachers fault as to what is being taught in the classroom. If you want the curriculum content and lessons to change, contact your local board of education. They are the ones who determine what is taught. And the teachers do speak up. Constantly! Unfortunately the board and school administration think very little about the concerns of teachers.

I am not saying all teachers are great. I had my share that sucked. Plus I know of some today that shouldn't be teaching. But labeling our education systems problems as a teacher problem is very short sighted. It goes way deeper than most people know. The people who make the decisions are not hired. They are voted in.

[Siberian13]

A well-known San Francisco shop, Fredericksen's Hardware and Paint, is trying a new tactic to tackle the "rampant shoplifting" that's been killing smaller businesses.

The store in Cow Hollow is now offering a "one-on-one shopping experience" with shoppers escorted by staff members. The plan is to separate genuine customers from those who want to steal. During certain times, Fredericksen's is now blocking part of the entrance and making people wait for a staff member to assist them, instead of letting them wander around the shop.



You can't even feel bad for the owners or any of the others. They got exactly what they asked for That's pretty sad and pathetic that they allow this to happen or I guess they want it to happen.

[asujbl]

Originally Posted by Siberian13

A well-known San Francisco shop, Fredericksen's Hardware and Paint, is trying a new tactic to tackle the "rampant shoplifting" that's been killing smaller businesses.

The store in Cow Hollow is now offering a "one-on-one shopping experience" with shoppers escorted by staff members. The plan is to separate genuine customers from those who want to steal. During certain times, Fredericksen's is now blocking part of the entrance and making people wait for a staff member to assist them, instead of letting them wander around the shop.



You can't even feel bad for the owners or any of the others. They got exactly what they asked for That's pretty sad and pathetic that they allow this to happen or I guess they want it to happen.

I like this idea. It’s like having a guy

Poors just wander around stores. I need personal shoppers everywhere I go

[valleynuckfan]

Originally Posted by dodgerfanjohn

*grunch* sort of.

Theft has become a way of life in Los Angeles. I was at a 7-11 in Downtown Los Angeles a few weeks ago and I hear the clerk telling a person they had to pay for the items. The person said “nope” and walked out with the items.

No call to police, no report, nada(which is why if anyone tells you crime is down or flat in Los Angeles they are utterly ignorant). The various laws created over the past 12 years, including propositions approved by voters, along with a DA who won’t prosecute a whole slew of crimes, have conspired to create these issues. The once lovely suburb I live in has experienced a large uptick in misdemeanor level crimes(that again are unreported because reporting won’t actually accomplish anything) and a smaller but significant uptick in major crimes including multiple assault and robberies, rapes, and murders.

If anyone talks about it on next door, there’s the local dimwit hammering that the stats show crime dropping. If anyone dares to say they’d protect their property with deadly force, there’s ten responses that things aren’t worth taking a life for.

I had already decided that I’m moving out of state when I retire in a few years. All this just reinforced that I’ve made the right decision. I wish I could move to a truly rural area, but long term health issues confine me to a large city so somewhere with safe suburbs, no gun registration requirement, and a healthy and enforced castle doctrine law is my next best bet.

You lost me at 'no gun registration requirements'.
Might just be my Canadian socialist thing but the whole drift of the 2nd amendment has lost it's meaning over many many decades that it has perverted the logical thinking and attitudes of so many otherwise decent and law-abiding citizens.
Try to steal my stuff? No problem, I'll steal your life.

[GoTribe!!!]

Originally Posted by valleynuckfan

You lost me at 'no gun registration requirements'.
Might just be my Canadian socialist thing but the whole drift of the 2nd amendment has lost it's meaning over many many decades that it has perverted the logical thinking and attitudes of so many otherwise decent and law-abiding citizens.
Try to steal my stuff? No problem, I'll steal your life.

Logically thinking, if you are morally corrupt enough to break into my home to steal from me. I have no idea what else you think is OK to do. So yes, I will protect me and mine. My family's safety is my main concern.

[valleynuckfan]

Originally Posted by GoTribe!!!

Logically thinking, if you are morally corrupt enough to break into my home to steal from me. I have no idea what else you think is OK to do. So yes, I will protect me and mine. My family's safety is my main concern.

I'm all for protect mine and mine and your example is spot on- who knows what goes through another's head.
However the incredible ease of access to firearms only exacerbates the situation.
No easy answers for any of the homelessness, un-educated, mentally challenged, socially discarded, addicted poverty stricken peoples and elements that contribute to our broken society.