Vladimir Guerrero, Jr. - Page 711

PeteD · 02-24-2024, 12:37 PM

Spring training game on Sportsnet at 1...can't wait!

eye4talent · 03-04-2024, 01:25 PM

Anybody see the Vladdy homer just now?

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Neo · 03-04-2024, 01:26 PM

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Anybody see the Vladdy homer just now?

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I heard it first and had to turn and look. Central Bomb.

I could stand to see 50 this year. A monster season would be so much fun.

eye4talent · 03-04-2024, 01:28 PM

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I heard it first and had to turn and look. Central Bomb.

I could stand to see 50 this year. A monster season would be so much fun.

It really would be. It’s time for the Vlad & Bo Show to hit stride.

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towerymt · 03-04-2024, 01:40 PM

110.5 MPH, 438 feet.

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seanrs1 · 03-04-2024, 01:45 PM

I have not been able to see any of his spring training games yet. How is Vladdy Jr. looking? I know he worked on his swing this off season. Any predictions on his performance in 2024. Would be really nice if he could become hobby relevant again.

NYBBFAN · 03-04-2024, 02:03 PM

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110.5 MPH, 438 feet.

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Triple-A park

towerymt · 03-04-2024, 02:07 PM

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Triple-A park

1.200 OPS, here we come!

Can we face Nick Nelson every game??

vwnut13 · 03-04-2024, 02:14 PM

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Triple-A park

Actually, it's a Single-A ballpark.

The same one he hit .410/.521/.897 at in 2021.

JRX · 03-04-2024, 02:15 PM

The truth is he won't turn it around until he hits well in Tor

PeteD · 03-04-2024, 02:34 PM

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I have not been able to see any of his spring training games yet. How is Vladdy Jr. looking? I know he worked on his swing this off season. Any predictions on his performance in 2024. Would be really nice if he could become hobby relevant again.

Sportsnet carries most of the ST games...Vladdy looks fitter than last yr and the homer he hit cleared the CF bleachers.

seanrs1 · 03-04-2024, 02:52 PM

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Sportsnet carries most of the ST games...Vladdy looks fitter than last yr and the homer he hit cleared the CF bleachers.

Thanks for the response! Do you think this year will be more like 2021?

NYBBFAN · 03-04-2024, 02:54 PM

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Actually, it's a Single-A ballpark.

The same one he hit .410/.521/.897 at in 2021.

Ackshually, it's a meme from some former idiot poster.

eye4talent · 03-04-2024, 03:01 PM

It’s the best when 438-foot shots leave the bat at 110+ mph, and then jokes about minor league parks bring out the true believers in the minor league park theory.

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eye4talent · 03-04-2024, 03:04 PM

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Sportsnet carries most of the ST games...Vladdy looks fitter than last yr and the homer he hit cleared the CF bleachers.

I don’t know if he looks more in shape than in ‘21, or if his fitness is just such a huge improvement over last year that it seems like he’s in the BSOHL.

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Triple B · 03-04-2024, 04:58 PM

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JRX · 03-04-2024, 05:03 PM

Career .257/.328/.449 at Rogers Center including .238/.324/.391 last year when we all thought the dimensions were more hitter friendly. Its nice seeing him crush a ball in spring training, but I gotta see it in the regular season.

seanrs1 · 03-04-2024, 05:13 PM

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Did he stop posting?

JRX · 03-04-2024, 05:14 PM

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Did he stop posting?

Believe he got banned. Not sure what tipped the scales.

Fitz23 · 03-04-2024, 07:30 PM

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Career .257/.328/.449 at Rogers Center including .238/.324/.391 last year when we all thought the dimensions were more hitter friendly. Its nice seeing him crush a ball in spring training, but I gotta see it in the regular season.

Totally fair, but it is better seeing him have a good spring (so far) and good positive comments than the other way around as he heads into the season for sure.

PeteD · 03-04-2024, 08:22 PM

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I don’t know if he looks more in shape than in ‘21, or if his fitness is just such a huge improvement over last year that it seems like he’s in the BSOHL.

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To be honest back in 2021 i was in a very dark place health wise, plus all the problems with covid. I didn't have the sports package i do now...but i remember them playing in Buffalo. Thankfully i've rebounded and back to enjoying my fav sport.

JRX · 03-04-2024, 10:38 PM

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Totally fair, but it is better seeing him have a good spring (so far) and good positive comments than the other way around as he heads into the season for sure.

I just think it's worse than people realize, 44 hr in over 1k pa at home. It's really mind boggling how bad he's been at home. Meanwhile he had 26 hr in just over 300pa in the two minor league stadiums. And yet he's hit well in bos, bal, and nyy. I don't get what it is about tor that causes him to not hit.

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eye4talent · 03-04-2024, 11:23 PM

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I just think it's worse than people realize, 44 hr in over 1k pa at home. It's really mind boggling how bad he's been at home. Meanwhile he had 26 hr in just over 300pa in the two minor league stadiums. And yet he's hit well in bos, bal, and nyy. I don't get what it is about tor that causes him to not hit.

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It’s an old argument, but correlation is not necessarily causation. Yes, Vlad was on a tear in the first half of 2021, especially in June, then slowed down after the all-star break.

Do you know who was on even more of a tear during that same time and then crashed even harder?

Shohei Ohtani. (1.312 OPS in June, .749 OPS in August, compared to Vlad’s 1.218 and .786)

Yet, nobody was blaming stadiums for Ohtani’s dip in production that year.

Sure, while Ohtani has dominated in subsequent seasons, Vlad hasn’t been quite the same. Although, he did have a .977 OPS in September/October in 2021, when he played home games in Toronto, which was comparable to his .993 in May—when he was playing in a minor league park.

But we know he was out of shape last year, and he probably didn’t put as much work into the 2021-2022 offseason as he should’ve. And if 2022 were his only down year, we wouldn’t really think much of it, because it was still a good season. But he really cratered in ‘23, when he was obviously not in pro-athlete shape.

This is all to say that it is more likely that everything was clicking for him in the first half of ‘21, when he was feeling great, in a zone, and the league was still learning how to pitch him.

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towerymt · 03-04-2024, 11:31 PM

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Did he stop posting?

He did.

Fitz23 · 03-05-2024, 11:58 AM

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It’s an old argument, but correlation is not necessarily causation. Yes, Vlad was on a tear in the first half of 2021, especially in June, then slowed down after the all-star break.

Do you know who was on even more of a tear during that same time and then crashed even harder?

Shohei Ohtani. (1.312 OPS in June, .749 OPS in August, compared to Vlad’s 1.218 and .786)

Yet, nobody was blaming stadiums for Ohtani’s dip in production that year.

Sure, while Ohtani has dominated in subsequent seasons, Vlad hasn’t been quite the same. Although, he did have a .977 OPS in September/October in 2021, when he played home games in Toronto, which was comparable to his .993 in May—when he was playing in a minor league park.

But we know he was out of shape last year, and he probably didn’t put as much work into the 2021-2022 offseason as he should’ve. And if 2022 were his only down year, we wouldn’t really think much of it, because it was still a good season. But he really cratered in ‘23, when he was obviously not in pro-athlete shape.

This is all to say that it is more likely that everything was clicking for him in the first half of ‘21, when he was feeling great, in a zone, and the league was still learning how to pitch him.

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To piggyback here a bit, the issue of offense at home wasn't Vlad's alone. It was an entire team problem.

Here couple quick snippets from an article on team splits home v away. Also, Bo, Matt Chapman, Varsho, Merrifield etc all hit much better on the road than at home last year.

"The Blue Jays had a good offense on the road scoring 5.0 runs per game/404 total runs (7th) while producing an overall 111 wRC+ (5th), but a really bad offense at home scoring only 4.2 runs per game/342 total runs (23rd) while producing an overall 102 wRC+ (17th). This was a direct factor in the team benefiting from a much higher run differential on the road (+59) vs at home (+12), as the Blue Jays offense was negatively impacted a lot more than opposition offenses in Rogers Center."

"The team suffered from a sizable drop in power production, but this was yet another issue which was far more pronounced at home where they hit only 85 home runs (21st) compared to a more palatable 103 (10th) on the road. This led to an overall home run total of 188, which was 16th in MLB."

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JRX Member Join Date: May 2020 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 15,677	Career .257/.328/.449 at Rogers Center including .238/.324/.391 last year when we all thought the dimensions were more hitter friendly. Its nice seeing him crush a ball in spring training, but I gotta see it in the regular season.