Connor Bedard

[cardsin47]

Originally Posted by ZappBrannigan

Net you an extra 100$? lol. 10 years. 10$ a year.

More than that my friend. This isn’t a CD with a fixed rate of return, where you grab a calculator and figure out the 2034 value —- there’s a little more to it than that with unopened long term hold wax values

[cholodolo]

Originally Posted by cardsin47

More than that my friend. This isn’t a CD with a fixed rate of return, where you grab a calculator and figure out the 2034 value —- there’s a little more to it than that with unopened long term hold wax values

Are you serious?

I get you probably did well during the Pandemic with sealed boxes from 2014-2018, but given the massive print runs and # of cases/boxes busted due to the increased popularity of breaking...how does keeping something like this sealed make any sense?

Zapp isn't wrong.

[cardsin47]

Originally Posted by cholodolo

Are you serious?

I get you probably did well during the Pandemic with sealed boxes from 2014-2018, but given the massive print runs and # of cases/boxes busted due to the increased popularity of breaking...how does keeping something like this sealed make any sense?

Zapp isn't wrong.

How about this? Keep EVERYTHING Sealed for a very long time, and buy a boat load of it along the way
Money can be made in any market, regardless of the factors you mentioned, if you buy the right wax at the right time for the right price.

[NotGoSportsBall]

Was consigning a SP-1 through COMC that has hi-res photos that would allude to it being a GEM-MT contender for whomever bought it. Some 0 FB buyer put a crazy number on it 4 days ago. Ended up over $1k tonight and he was the winner. Surely I will not see that money. Its one thing to shill your own auctions but leave others alone. End of rant.

Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe he will pay. Maybe I will crap lucky charms tomorrow.

[cardsin47]

Originally Posted by NotGoSportsBall

Was consigning a SP-1 through COMC that has hi-res photos that would allude to it being a GEM-MT contender for whomever bought it. Some 0 FB buyer put a crazy number on it 4 days ago. Ended up over $1k tonight and he was the winner. Surely I will not see that money. Its one thing to shill your own auctions but leave others alone. End of rant.

Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe he will pay. Maybe I will crap lucky charms tomorrow.

Hope he / she pays for you Brother ~ nothing worse than a great card and a potentially horrible high bidder

[zeus22]

Originally Posted by ThatGuyPal

Goals in 2/3 games since returning, 6 points, still leading rookies in points despite being injured and clear rookie of the year still...

Yeah this kid sucks don't waste your money guys lol

Is he still a Buy?

Zero points in last two games and pretty well leads his team with a horrible -26 in only 44 games played. I mean, scoring is great, but you gotta do something on defence as well.

Obviously I'm kidding - but seriously, absolutely nothing he is doing is supporting the cause to labelling him a "generational talent".

Wembanyama, on the other hand, is truly doing things that almost no one has ever done in the NBA. Back to back games of 5 blocks & 5 steals has only been done by Michael Jordan (once) and Wemby just did it in his rookie season. Gotta play on both sides of the court (or ice) for that matter.

[JohnnyAppleseed]

Originally Posted by zeus22

Is he still a Buy?

Zero points in last two games and pretty well leads his team with a horrible -26 in only 44 games played. I mean, scoring is great, but you gotta do something on defence as well.

Obviously I'm kidding - but seriously, absolutely nothing he is doing is supporting the cause to labelling him a "generational talent".

Wembanyama, on the other hand, is truly doing things that almost no one has ever done in the NBA. Back to back games of 5 blocks & 5 steals has only been done by Michael Jordan (once) and Wemby just did it in his rookie season. Gotta play on both sides of the court (or ice) for that matter.

If you're deciding Bedard is not "generational" because of a two game sample size coinciding with something happening in a different sport, I don't know what to tell you.

[ThatGuyPal]

Originally Posted by zeus22

Is he still a Buy?

Zero points in last two games and pretty well leads his team with a horrible -26 in only 44 games played. I mean, scoring is great, but you gotta do something on defence as well.

Obviously I'm kidding - but seriously, absolutely nothing he is doing is supporting the cause to labelling him a "generational talent".

Wembanyama, on the other hand, is truly doing things that almost no one has ever done in the NBA. Back to back games of 5 blocks & 5 steals has only been done by Michael Jordan (once) and Wemby just did it in his rookie season. Gotta play on both sides of the court (or ice) for that matter.

I love how the media in a bid to boost new rookies have convinced people random facts like that actually matter, be honest do you think you'll even remember this fact in a week? lol

I'd say the fact he's still leading all other rookies in everything relevant including being second in assists, and is currently -550 to win ROY, with Faber second at +420 then everyone else +2000 and up looks worse for people trying to pump Extended that these rookies they saved for it are gonna add value sans Bedard canvas vs promoting the product with the most Bedards.

I still believe, if you don't cool, but to me it jus feels some of this recent hate on this board and elsewhere is due to people who missed out or just didn't factor in the price increase Bedard would cause and have their own selfish interests in mind behind it. I mean I doubt those with locked-in preorder prices would have an interest in insinuating it should be cheaper and dissing the top guy in it lol it's easy to see through hence my original sarcastic comment.

[anusinha]

Originally Posted by ThatGuyPal

I love how the media in a bid to boost new rookies have convinced people random facts like that actually matter, be honest do you think you'll even remember this fact in a week? lol

I'd say the fact he's still leading all other rookies in everything relevant including being second in assists, and is currently -550 to win ROY, with Faber second at +420 then everyone else +2000 and up looks worse for people trying to pump Extended that these rookies they saved for it are gonna add value sans Bedard canvas vs promoting the product with the most Bedards.

I still believe, if you don't cool, but to me it jus feels some of this recent hate on this board and elsewhere is due to people who missed out or just didn't factor in the price increase Bedard would cause and have their own selfish interests in mind behind it. I mean I doubt those with locked-in preorder prices would have an interest in insinuating it should be cheaper and dissing the top guy in it lol it's easy to see through hence my original sarcastic comment.

Extended will have Bedard in every random rookie set, should be waaay more than in s2.

[The_Reverend]

Originally Posted by anusinha

Extended will have Bedard in every random rookie set, should be waaay more than in s2.

Agreed! I think those who bought in early for S2 are happy and likely knew prices would go up. Extended defintely has more Bedard content and thise alone will push the price up to a similar $300 per box, which will be a better deal, considering the different Bedard RC cards you can pull, as well as his UD Canvas.

[Davis]

It will be interesting how the market treats all those extended insert rookies of Bedard. We haven’t had a big time rookie (McDavid, Matthews) go thru extrended yet. Until now, all the extended rookie inserts for guys like Caufield and Seider have been close to worthless ($5-$10). There’ll be some numbered stuff though could help.

[oldgoldy97]

Emerald Black Diamond autograph.

[Positively4thSt]

Seems like a lot of people are counting on Bedard to raise the entire hockey market to new heights and allow them to sell off their "investments" of other players at large profits. Which isn't happening. He is clearly going to be a star, but pretty clear he's not in the Crosby/McDavid "win the Hart in year 2" tier, which is basically what would be required of him to raise the tide of the hockey market.

Also, "generational" seems to have taken the place of "superstar-level" when examining a player. Generational, by definition, implies he will be a once in a generation player. Bedard is going to spend the majority of his career in the same player generation as McDavid and Matthews. Do we really see him being better than either of those two? Never say never, but seems highly unlikely.

[Philobut]

Originally Posted by Positively4thSt

Seems like a lot of people are counting on Bedard to raise the entire hockey market to new heights and allow them to sell off their "investments" of other players at large profits. Which isn't happening. He is clearly going to be a star, but pretty clear he's not in the Crosby/McDavid "win the Hart in year 2" tier, which is basically what would be required of him to raise the tide of the hockey market.

Also, "generational" seems to have taken the place of "superstar-level" when examining a player. Generational, by definition, implies he will be a once in a generation player. Bedard is going to spend the majority of his career in the same player generation as McDavid and Matthews. Do we really see him being better than either of those two? Never say never, but seems highly unlikely.

Please don't forget Bedard's linemates. His team is absolute trash and still manage to score big points. I love Foligno but he is a 4th line guy.

[fjf31970]

Originally Posted by The_Reverend

Agreed! I think those who bought in early for S2 are happy and likely knew prices would go up. Extended defintely has more Bedard content and thise alone will push the price up to a similar $300 per box, which will be a better deal, considering the different Bedard RC cards you can pull, as well as his UD Canvas.

Series 2 does have a Bedard Canvas card(But not as a Blackhawk).


Card number C258 UD CANVAS-PROGRAM OF EXCELLENCE-CONNOR BEDARD-TEAM CANADA

Card number C258 UD Canvas Black and White Parallel - Program of Excellence- Connor Bedard-Team Canada

Card number C258 UD Canvas Printing Plates Parallel - Program of Excellence- Connor Bedard-Team Canada

[Positively4thSt]

Originally Posted by Philobut

Please don't forget Bedard's linemates. His team is absolute trash and still manage to score big points. I love Foligno but he is a 4th line guy.

Chicago is horrible, but Bedard is 62nd in the league in points per game. Good for an 18 year old, but not anywhere near Matthews scoring 40, McDavid being point per game, and Crosby and Ovi scoring 100 points as rookies.

And Chicago isn't gonna get significantly better anytime soon. So while it's a valid excuse for now that his team being horrible affects his production, it's just something he's going to have to deal with for the extended future at this point. It's on him to produce superstar numbers regardless of linemates to justify his hype

Can't have it both ways. If he's a generational talent then the standards need to be higher than pretty much everyone else who has ever played in the NHL

[odjickfan]

Originally Posted by Positively4thSt

Chicago is horrible, but Bedard is 62nd in the league in points per game. Good for an 18 year old, but not anywhere near Matthews scoring 40, McDavid being point per game, and Crosby and Ovi scoring 100 points as rookies.

And Chicago isn't gonna get significantly better anytime soon. So while it's a valid excuse for now that his team being horrible affects his production, it's just something he's going to have to deal with for the extended future at this point. It's on him to produce superstar numbers regardless of linemates to justify his hype

Can't have it both ways. If he's a generational talent then the standards need to be higher than pretty much everyone else who has ever played in the NHL

Bedard cards are priced in the league of guys like Crosby, AO and McDavid. Imagine if he turns out to be more like Kane or Stamkos, investors will be sad.

[ZappBrannigan]

Originally Posted by odjickfan

Bedard cards are priced in the league of guys like Crosby, AO and McDavid. Imagine if he turns out to be more like Kane or Stamkos, investors will be sad.

Just like the investors in Robertson, Bernier, Kaprizov, Zegras, Caufield, Thompson, ……
Investors.

[cardsin47]

Originally Posted by zeus22

Is he still a Buy?

…. absolutely nothing he is doing is supporting the cause to labelling him a "generational talent".

It takes more than a few months for the ‘generational talent’ thing to kick in …..

[fjf31970]

Could be playing along with Macklin Celebrini next season

[Philobut]

Originally Posted by Positively4thSt

Chicago is horrible, but Bedard is 62nd in the league in points per game. Good for an 18 year old, but not anywhere near Matthews scoring 40, McDavid being point per game, and Crosby and Ovi scoring 100 points as rookies.

And Chicago isn't gonna get significantly better anytime soon. So while it's a valid excuse for now that his team being horrible affects his production, it's just something he's going to have to deal with for the extended future at this point. It's on him to produce superstar numbers regardless of linemates to justify his hype

Can't have it both ways. If he's a generational talent then the standards need to be higher than pretty much everyone else who has ever played in the NHL

Crosby played with Recchi and Leclair. He also had Lemieux as a mentor. It's Bedard's first year and he is all alone, I think it's pretty impressive. Even if he is alone next year he will be more mature so he should be able to get a great season. All the superstars had at least one good linemate so the Blackhawks will need to trade to get that one player to play along him.

[cholodolo]

Originally Posted by ThatGuyPal

I'd say the fact he's still leading all other rookies in everything relevant including being second in assists, and is currently -550 to win ROY, with Faber second at +420 then everyone else +2000 and up looks worse for people trying to pump Extended that these rookies they saved for it are gonna add value sans Bedard canvas vs promoting the product with the most Bedards.

I still believe, if you don't cool, but to me it jus feels some of this recent hate on this board and elsewhere is due to people who missed out or just didn't factor in the price increase Bedard would cause and have their own selfish interests in mind behind it. I mean I doubt those with locked-in preorder prices would have an interest in insinuating it should be cheaper and dissing the top guy in it lol it's easy to see through hence my original sarcastic comment.

The ROY should go to Faber but the media is in love with boy wonder. Faber has played 58 games and averages 25:09 TOI per night for a solid team. But defense is not flashy.

You're also wrong to think anyone criticizing Bedard or his prices are jealous or looking after "selfish interests"...whatever that means.

Some of us don't buy products or cards just to make money.

[Wizlon]

As a collector and not an "investor" I'd just like to open some of the latest cards and not pay 3X the price. I understand the stakes are higher with Bedard's value, so I'll just wait it out or pass.

I think Taylor Hall was supposed to provide some offensive support. Reichel didn't really pan out did he.

[fjf31970]

Connor Bedard compared to Connor McDavid thru first 45 games(McDavid's first season 45 totals games)

Connor Bedard
G--17
A--23
Pts-40
+/- -26
PIM-14
PPG-2
PPA-9
SHG-0
GWG-2
SOG-135
SH%-12.6
ATOI-19:13


Connor McDavid
G--16
A--32
Pts-48
+/- -1
PIM-18
PPG-3
PPA-11
SHG-0
GWG-5
SOG-105
SH%-15.2
ATOI=18:53

[terrymcginnis]

whats with all the team Canada cards so far?