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Old 02-04-2024, 12:54 PM   #751
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Not sure where exactly the money goes but the markup over factory costs is huge.

I know Layton was outed as a front for Peach State Distro (or was it Southern hobby?), so they were taking all their factory allocations and just breaking it on their own, instead of distributing it to their accounts.
It was Peach. I’m sure Fanatics has thrown a wrinkle into everything they do. But no doubt these guys are making money hand over fist. Fortunately, most are probably degenerate gamblers like Blez, who hasn’t ever found a bet he doesn’t like. Warms my heart.
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Old 02-04-2024, 01:07 PM   #752
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Delinquencies are now higher than COVID.

I expect mass welfare stimmies this year to buy votes.

Won't work, too late. There are too many people in pain and now it is going to those not born here.


Card market won't dissipate much from here. Stealing and flipping doesn't hurt for those who did it. Still gets in market.
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Old 02-04-2024, 01:34 PM   #753
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Old 02-04-2024, 07:30 PM   #754
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Everyone on this forum is a cardboard millionaire. That’s why they are here every day posting 20 times a day and sharing their knowledge.
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Old 02-04-2024, 07:58 PM   #755
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Everyone on this forum is a cardboard millionaire. That’s why they are here every day posting 20 times a day and sharing their knowledge.
Who needs to work when you live in a gold mine?

Your only entertainment is to make fun of dealers slumming away at weekly card shows.
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Old 02-24-2024, 05:25 PM   #756
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Kobe 1996 TC Refractor PSA 10 dipped below 100K.

https://sales-history.pwccmarketplac...MyMTMuMjMuMC4w
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Old 02-24-2024, 05:31 PM   #757
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Kobe 1996 TC Refractor PSA 10 dipped below 100K.

https://sales-history.pwccmarketplac...MyMTMuMjMuMC4w

Wonder if all the long term greening will cause prices to dip long term


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Old 02-24-2024, 05:40 PM   #758
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refractors don't really green much?
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Old 02-24-2024, 05:44 PM   #759
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refractors don't really green much?





Definitely a difference in the two, maybe not as much as base, yet, but who knows if they will in time, personally wouldn’t trust them 25-50 years from now.


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Old 02-26-2024, 11:31 AM   #760
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Glad to see prices dropping lower by the day.

Funny thing is some dealers and people who bought at the top or close to, can't accept that yet.

The fact the Kobe refractor has even sold for over $15k is wild
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Old 02-26-2024, 11:44 AM   #761
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Glad to see prices dropping lower by the day.

Funny thing is some dealers and people who bought at the top or close to, can't accept that yet.

The fact the Kobe refractor has even sold for over $15k is wild
Zion is having a very good year and his stuff continues to plummet.
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Old 02-26-2024, 12:03 PM   #762
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Kobe 1996 TC Refractor PSA 10 dipped below 100K.

https://sales-history.pwccmarketplac...MyMTMuMjMuMC4w
Still way too high, it'll drop more.
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Zion is having a very good year and his stuff continues to plummet.
No he hasn't, this has been his worst year in the league since his rookie year. Only thing improving is that he's playing.
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Old 02-26-2024, 12:32 PM   #764
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No he hasn't, this has been his worst year in the league since his rookie year. Only thing improving is that he's playing.
Is that why his cards have dropped 90%+?
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Old 02-26-2024, 12:36 PM   #765
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Is that why his cards have dropped 90%+?
Nope, it's mostly the market but his production has been a part of it.

Just think that using Zion as an example of the decline in cards is bad, it's better to use players who are actually exceeding expectations and whose prices have fallen/stayed flat.
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Nope, it's mostly the market but his production has been a part of it.

Just think that using Zion as an example of the decline in cards is bad, it's better to use players who are actually exceeding expectations and whose prices have fallen/stayed flat.
Mahomes won his 3rd SB ring recently and his high-end card prices are still in decline. Many of his NT and Flawless RPA's are sitting on ebay and PWCC fixed marketplace with no offers. I would not be surprised if the correction in sports cards market lasted another year or two.
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Old 02-26-2024, 01:02 PM   #767
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Is that why his cards have dropped 90%+?
The market has moved on from Zion being a superstar.
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Old 02-26-2024, 01:07 PM   #768
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As a collector, I'm excited to do some buying in the off-season.
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Old 02-26-2024, 01:08 PM   #769
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Nope, it's mostly the market but his production has been a part of it.

Just think that using Zion as an example of the decline in cards is bad, it's better to use players who are actually exceeding expectations and whose prices have fallen/stayed flat.
Oh, you mean like Lebron.
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Old 02-26-2024, 01:10 PM   #770
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Mahomes won his 3rd SB ring recently and his high-end card prices are still in decline. Many of his NT and Flawless RPA's are sitting on ebay and PWCC fixed marketplace with no offers. I would not be surprised if the correction in sports cards market lasted another year or two.
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Old 02-26-2024, 01:17 PM   #771
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I think there are opportunities for 3rd-4th year guys who’ve gotten no hype

In no particular order

Jalen Johnson
Deni Avdija
Trey Murphy
Immanuel Quickley
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I think there are opportunities for 3rd-4th year guys who’ve gotten no hype

In no particular order

Jalen Johnson
Deni Avdija
Trey Murphy
Immanuel Quickley
Cards that double in price from $1 to $2 isn’t sexy, though.
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Old 02-26-2024, 01:59 PM   #773
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Cards that double in price from $1 to $2 isn’t sexy, though.
Poor people like me gotta make some money!

I think Trey Murphy is gonna have a Jalen Johnson type price jump.

Jalen’s stuff has 3-4x since the offseason. I wish I wouldn’t have been cheap and actually paid up for some nice stuff.
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Mahomes won his 3rd SB ring recently and his high-end card prices are still in decline. Many of his NT and Flawless RPA's are sitting on ebay and PWCC fixed marketplace with no offers. I would not be surprised if the correction in sports cards market lasted another year or two.
That's a great example, although I was thinking more about basketball.

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Oh, you mean like Lebron.
Good one. I would go towards young players as some people on the other side can claim that LeBron was overpriced before and this is only a "correction".

I haven't followed Paolo's prices, for example, but I would guess that a 2nd year player making the ASG and leading his team to the playoffs should mean prices are up. That would be a good one. Same with Antman.
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Poor people like me gotta make some money!

I think Trey Murphy is gonna have a Jalen Johnson type price jump.

Jalen’s stuff has 3-4x since the offseason. I wish I wouldn’t have been cheap and actually paid up for some nice stuff.
I was hoping the Pels would deal BI and TM3 for Trae or Melo at the deadline to potentially see a jump. I think Trey needs to move somewhere and he'll get a nice bump.
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