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Old 02-16-2024, 11:40 AM   #34301
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IF........and it's a big IF.......Mahomes wins 3 SB's in a row....does that make him automatically better than Brady?

I talked to a buddy of mine that said absolutely yes. He said that 3 in a row would outweigh 7 total SB wins.

OK...........what say you?
I would say I am fatigued from this conversation
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Old 02-16-2024, 12:00 PM   #34302
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IF........and it's a big IF.......Mahomes wins 3 SB's in a row....does that make him automatically better than Brady?

I talked to a buddy of mine that said absolutely yes. He said that 3 in a row would outweigh 7 total SB wins.

OK...........what say you?
It would definitely put Mahomes' peak (if it ends up being his peak) significantly above Brady and anyone else. Would it make up for Brady having significantly more rings? Who knows.

If he 3 peats and ends up with 5 rings, it would put him over Brady in my book from a holistic view of GOAT. If he 3 peats and ends up with 4 rings, he's easily above Montana but the 7 v 4 SB rings is probably still too big of a gap for him to be above Brady.

Why didn't he just beat Brady in SB LV!? Oh right, missing 3 OL.
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Old 02-16-2024, 12:05 PM   #34303
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IF........and it's a big IF.......Mahomes wins 3 SB's in a row....does that make him automatically better than Brady?

I talked to a buddy of mine that said absolutely yes. He said that 3 in a row would outweigh 7 total SB wins.

OK...........what say you?
Nope.

This is turning into Jordan/LeBron part 2.

He can end up with more Super Bowls, yards, tds, playoff stats, better rating, rushing stats, more wins.. everything, and it won't matter. Heck, 18% of the public thinks that Taylor Swift is part of a deep state plot to steal the election. There will always be reasons people come up with to take away what he does...

Just like they did with Brady for 20 years until he retired and his legend grew. It's the Paul Bunyan effect and I told y'all about it years ago when people were downplaying Brady, and here we are.
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Old 02-16-2024, 12:12 PM   #34304
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IF........and it's a big IF.......Mahomes wins 3 SB's in a row....does that make him automatically better than Brady?

I talked to a buddy of mine that said absolutely yes. He said that 3 in a row would outweigh 7 total SB wins.

OK...........what say you?
Depends - what is their head to head record?
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Old 02-16-2024, 12:54 PM   #34305
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Depends - what is their head to head record?
Not sure what head to head record would have to do with anything big picture. No one says Brady is the goat over Peyton simply based on head to head record.

It's Brady because it's 7 rings vs. 2.

Mahomes 3 peating would mean every year of his first 7 starting years would be AFC championship appearances, 5 SBs, 4 wins.

It would be the greatest start to a career in world sports history.

I don't want to get my hopes up, but the worldwide stardom explosion would be unfathomable.

1 more ring baby.
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Old 02-16-2024, 12:59 PM   #34306
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Not sure what head to head record would have to do with anything big picture. No one says Brady is the goat over Peyton simply based on head to head record.
I think he's being sarcastic.
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Old 02-16-2024, 01:12 PM   #34307
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Not high end but found this one in the closet. Always liked the color match on this card.



Are you kidding? I sold his second year Prizm Green Crystals /99 for over $300. Mahomes is in a category all by himself. In fact, he could be headed toward basketball level desirability for his non-rookie year cards. It's possible.

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Old 02-16-2024, 01:15 PM   #34308
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I think he's being sarcastic.
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Old 02-16-2024, 01:19 PM   #34309
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Man this is tough....

Spending 6k on a non factory rookie auto.....and not even his rookie auto to boot...


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Old 02-16-2024, 01:36 PM   #34310
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Man this is tough....

Spending 6k on a non factory rookie auto.....and not even his rookie auto to boot...


Yeah that's disgusting. Just go buy the true rookie version for that much duh
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Old 02-16-2024, 01:42 PM   #34311
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Okay gentlemen, I apologize for the delay and hopefully I can explain why I was acting like a teenage girl yesterday. Someone alerted me to this listing:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/28567332185...orig_cvip=true

The listing was for a 2017 Mahomes "Orange" Prizm RC that sold for either $7,000 or $9,200 (two different numbers show up depending on where you click).

Only, the card wasn't orange...it was numbered #3/10. Someone posted a pic of it on their IG stories with a cryptic message that seemed to indicate they had acquired it, so I was waiting on confirmation that that person had actually obtained the card.

Basically, I thought that someone got a 100k card for 7-9k and I just about died. The listing "ended" on 1/28/31 as a BIN. I reached out to the person on IG who ran the story and who indicated they had got the card (a high end buyer). They clarified that they have not made a deal for the card, but they were meeting with the seller in person this week. I asked if the person was aware it was gold and not orange and they said yes, the person does know what they have and were asking 800k lol. They allegedly just pulled it from a pack recently. So maybe someone alerted the seller it was gold and they didn't honor the person who hit the BIN or whatever. I did try to reach out to the seller through ebay and IG just to confirm they actually have the card and to hear the story behind it but have not received a response, and it's been a day so I figured I would post here.

The more important thing for my purposes is that I track these cards, and the only one I had never seen was the #3/10, and now I have photo evidence which means that all 10 Gold Prizm RC cards have been pulled.

There are no more gold Prizm PCs stashed away in boxes.

That is all.



Got a PSA 9 and is up for auction at Goldin. Apparantly the high end 'buyer' is just a high end flipper lol.

I'll be watching it tick down for sure in a couple weeks to see where the market for this is now after the big win.
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Got a PSA 9 and is up for auction at Goldin. Apparantly the high end 'buyer' is just a high end flipper lol.

I'll be watching it tick down for sure in a couple weeks to see where the market for this is now after the big win.
Would appreciate an update when it ends, I don't normally pay attention to the Goldin/PWCC/Alt/Etc. listings.
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Old 02-16-2024, 02:56 PM   #34313
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In Layton's 200 box Super Bowl mixer, their big finale was a hobby box of 2017 Prizm, a box of 2017 Immaculate, and a box of 2017 NT...the results:

0 Mahomes in the Prizm box (McCaffrey and Watson base RC's were the best pulls)

0 Mahomes in the Immaculate box, however, this box pulled off a massive troll job as the big hit at the end of the box was a Kareem Hunt Dual RPA with some of the nicest patches you'll see.

The NT box yielded a Mahomes/Trubuisky dual patch RC card /10 (there was a Brady 1/1 printing plate in it). So the guy holding the Chiefs may lose it in a random to the guy holding the Bears.
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Old 02-16-2024, 03:09 PM   #34314
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In Layton's 200 box Super Bowl mixer, their big finale was a hobby box of 2017 Prizm, a box of 2017 Immaculate, and a box of 2017 NT...the results:

0 Mahomes in the Prizm box (McCaffrey and Watson base RC's were the best pulls)

0 Mahomes in the Immaculate box, however, this box pulled off a massive troll job as the big hit at the end of the box was a Kareem Hunt Dual RPA with some of the nicest patches you'll see.

The NT box yielded a Mahomes/Trubuisky dual patch RC card /10 (there was a Brady 1/1 printing plate in it). So the guy holding the Chiefs may lose it in a random to the guy holding the Bears.
What was buy in price this year?
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Old 02-16-2024, 03:14 PM   #34315
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Old 02-16-2024, 03:26 PM   #34316
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Yep - Cardcollector2 opened one of every Prizm Blaster this week from 2015-2023. Said he paid over $1,500 total for them. Might have been $100 total worth of cards if that. I don't even think there was a "hit" in any of them.
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Old 02-16-2024, 03:40 PM   #34317
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Yep - Cardcollector2 opened one of every Prizm Blaster this week from 2015-2023. Said he paid over $1,500 total for them. Might have been $100 total worth of cards if that. I don't even think there was a "hit" in any of them.


Just another reason I will not bust my unopened stash. Risk vs reward is too great.


I'll be happy at some point to sell to a breaker or the "big three" and let someone else take the pain.
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Old 02-16-2024, 03:43 PM   #34318
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Yup. People love taking risks, hoping to hit the home run.
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Old 02-16-2024, 03:51 PM   #34319
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In Layton's 200 box Super Bowl mixer, their big finale was a hobby box of 2017 Prizm, a box of 2017 Immaculate, and a box of 2017 NT...the results:

0 Mahomes in the Prizm box (McCaffrey and Watson base RC's were the best pulls)

0 Mahomes in the Immaculate box, however, this box pulled off a massive troll job as the big hit at the end of the box was a Kareem Hunt Dual RPA with some of the nicest patches you'll see.

The NT box yielded a Mahomes/Trubuisky dual patch RC card /10 (there was a Brady 1/1 printing plate in it). So the guy holding the Chiefs may lose it in a random to the guy holding the Bears.
Pure insanity to me to pay to rip wax when you can just buy your favorite Mahomes cards for not much of an uptick after the huge win.
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Old 02-19-2024, 05:37 PM   #34320
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Pure insanity to me to pay to rip wax when you can just buy your favorite Mahomes cards for not much of an uptick after the huge win.
This 100%. I literally went to my local card store to buy some 2023 NFL Prizm to rip (just wanted one blaster) but as I was trying to decide, the employee pulls this out to price and add it to the display case...

We worked out a great deal. I've had my eye on this Mahomes for a few years but always decided to go with something else. In hand this card looks great.

2017 Donruss Elite Red Mahomes, numbered to /149.

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Old 02-19-2024, 06:22 PM   #34321
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This 100%. I literally went to my local card store to buy some 2023 NFL Prizm to rip (just wanted one blaster) but as I was trying to decide, the employee pulls this out to price and add it to the display case...

We worked out a great deal. I've had my eye on this Mahomes for a few years but always decided to go with something else. In hand this card looks great.

2017 Donruss Elite Red Mahomes, numbered to /149.

Yeah but you might have missed out on a Will Levis Prizm Blue Sparklematic!!

I'm kidding. Great card.
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Old 02-19-2024, 06:32 PM   #34322
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Just feels so dang good when 2017 Pattys pop



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This 100%. I literally went to my local card store to buy some 2023 NFL Prizm to rip (just wanted one blaster) but as I was trying to decide, the employee pulls this out to price and add it to the display case...

We worked out a great deal. I've had my eye on this Mahomes for a few years but always decided to go with something else. In hand this card looks great.

2017 Donruss Elite Red Mahomes, numbered to /149.



absolutely LOVE this card and super tough to gem. That looks beautiful in a PSA 9 holder.
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Agree with you all. That elite red is such a nice card in person. Great design.
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Old 02-20-2024, 01:09 PM   #34325
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This 100%. I literally went to my local card store to buy some 2023 NFL Prizm to rip (just wanted one blaster) but as I was trying to decide, the employee pulls this out to price and add it to the display case...

We worked out a great deal. I've had my eye on this Mahomes for a few years but always decided to go with something else. In hand this card looks great.

2017 Donruss Elite Red Mahomes, numbered to /149.

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