Bobby Witt Jr. is he legit?

[fungi2510]

Originally Posted by JimEd14

Happy for him, and for Royals fans ... but man, this could be Trout-ian (Trout-esque?) with a lack of post season opportunities.

Ya, because the Royals are bad now means they will be bad in the near future. The bats will be much better this year and the pitching cannot be worse. We will see how things shake out.

[Skipscards]

[Skipscards]

[Chris P]

Originally Posted by jhammerrx7

Just got an email from Topps. My 2022 Stadium Club auto redemption is finally filled ! Right about a year since I redeemed it.
Can't wait to see it in hand !

Was your a base? Ive been waiting for that too

[Skipscards]

Originally Posted by JimEd14

Happy for him, and for Royals fans ... but man, this could be Trout-ian (Trout-esque?) with a lack of post season opportunities.

You do realize we were in back to back World Serieses less than 10 years ago?

[towerymt]

Originally Posted by JimEd14

Happy for him, and for Royals fans ... but man, this could be Trout-ian (Trout-esque?) with a lack of post season opportunities.

On the plus side, AL Central division winner has had the fewest wins among the division winners in 2 of the past 3 years.

Down side is, they may not make the playoffs without winning the division if the low-win-total-wins-the-Central continues (Twins actually had fewer wins than all the AL wildcard teams last year while winning the Central)

Royals were only 31 games back of the division winner last year.

Compared to 45 games back of the AL East winning Orioles.

[towerymt]

Originally Posted by Skipscards

You do realize we were in back to back World Serieses less than 10 years ago?

"In 2014, the Royals' payroll for their 40-man roster (approximately $96 million) ranked below the league average ($121 million). It was in the bottom half of the majors (19th) ..."
https://www.kansascity.com/sports/ml...237610404.html

"In 2015, when they won the World Series, the Royals' 40-man roster payroll came in at $127 million, which ranked 13th in the majors. The average major-league payroll that season was $130 million."
https://www.kansascity.com/sports/ml...237610404.html

Looks like they have spent about the same amount on payroll lately as they did 10 years ago. That will need to change.

2023, $96mil
https://www.spotrac.com/mlb/payroll/2023/

2024, $118mil
https://www.spotrac.com/mlb/payroll/

[KC35]

Originally Posted by Skipscards

You do realize we were in back to back World Serieses less than 10 years ago?

Swept the 2014 Angels (Trout 1st MVP season) on the way to Game 7 of the WS.

[awz50]

Originally Posted by JimEd14

Happy for him, and for Royals fans ... but man, this could be Trout-ian (Trout-esque?) with a lack of post season opportunities.

Not really, royals have recent postseason success the Angels are well the Angels

[slogue2]

Big money! Go Bobby!!!

[JimEd14]

Originally Posted by fungi2510

Ya, because the Royals are bad now means they will be bad in the near future. The bats will be much better this year and the pitching cannot be worse. We will see how things shake out.

The pitching "cannot be worse" is not a great place to start.

The last 8 seasons they haven't finished above 3rd, the last 6 not above 4th.

Their star catcher is about to turn 34.

My point was merely it doesn't look short term rosy and if things don't change, it could take this contract term to be deep playoff run successful again.

Can it change, absolutely. Is there a road map to that change, well, step one was probably this signing. After that, as you suggest, we'll see. As stated, the AL Central is an easier place to start from.

[Ferg1945]

Originally Posted by ThoseBackPages

just stay healthy

the rest will be fine

He doesn't have to worry about that now.

[awz50]

Originally Posted by Ferg1945

He doesn't have to worry about that now.

The royals now get too

[evileddie]

So happy I get to watch Bobby in KC for years to come. The only thing that could have made me more happy would have been a trade to the Cubs. I also had a trio of Witt Auto's Pop at PSA today and 1 is a Pop 1 in a 10.

[Skipscards]

Originally Posted by towerymt

"In 2014, the Royals' payroll for their 40-man roster (approximately $96 million) ranked below the league average ($121 million). It was in the bottom half of the majors (19th) ..."
https://www.kansascity.com/sports/ml...237610404.html

"In 2015, when they won the World Series, the Royals' 40-man roster payroll came in at $127 million, which ranked 13th in the majors. The average major-league payroll that season was $130 million."
https://www.kansascity.com/sports/ml...237610404.html

Looks like they have spent about the same amount on payroll lately as they did 10 years ago. That will need to change.

2023, $96mil
https://www.spotrac.com/mlb/payroll/2023/

2024, $118mil
https://www.spotrac.com/mlb/payroll/

Spending more money has nothing to do with it. Spending money more wisely does.

[StateEx]

I guess it’s official: he is legit. /thread

[Skipscards]

Originally Posted by StateEx

I guess it’s official: he is legit. /thread

Agreed.

[staleypoke]

Arrived on extension day! Love the blue!

[cardsin47]

I think Witt is very, very good - but the Contract value implies that he has many more ‘very’s in front of the good. I haven’t followed his every step and at bat - what do you guys think….. worth the big bucks so early in his career?

[IronCladLou]

Yes. I think he's worth it.

Wish the Mets had someone like him

[jhammerrx7]

Originally Posted by Chris P

Was your a base? Ive been waiting for that too

Yup, just a base, but there was no way I was going to take a substitute.

[Skipscards]

Originally Posted by cardsin47

I think Witt is very, very good - but the Contract value implies that he has many more ‘very’s in front of the good. I haven’t followed his every step and at bat - what do you guys think….. worth the big bucks so early in his career?

Here's the list of players with 50 or more HRs and 75 or more SBs in their first 2 seasons:

Bobby Witt Jr.

Here's another list of the players with a 30/30 season in either of their first 2 seasons (and only one of them isn't an outfielder):

Bobby Bonds
Mike Trout
Ronald Acuna Jr
Julio Rodriguez
Bobby Witt Jr

[eldustino]

Originally Posted by jhammerrx7

Yup, just a base, but there was no way I was going to take a substitute.

Same deal for me, I pulled from a hobby box in mid-December 2022 and entered code immediately.

I was surprised to see the image on the packing slip, which I don't think I've seen before.

[JRX]

Originally Posted by Skipscards

Here's the list of players with 50 or more HRs and 75 or more SBs in their first 2 seasons:

Bobby Witt Jr.

Here's another list of the players with a 30/30 season in either of their first 2 seasons (and only one of them isn't an outfielder):

Bobby Bonds
Mike Trout
Ronald Acuna Jr
Julio Rodriguez
Bobby Witt Jr

Yes but they changed the rules. Once again for the people in the back, you can't count SB totals post rule changes to SB totals pre rule changes.

[Skipscards]

Originally Posted by JRX

Yes but they changed the rules. Once again for the people in the back, you can't count SB totals post rule changes to SB totals pre rule changes.

He stole 49 bases. New rules or not, he still easily gets 30. And I can count just fine.