8kyle5 what happened?

[valleynuckfan]

Originally Posted by DynaEtch

Well it's not just the 3 days since the ship date, it's based on the date of payment which was 1/21. The ship date thing is merely an issue because if a seller says 'I'll be shipping your order out by X date', then doesnt, and also doesnt communicate- it's bad form.

If the seller is "shining him on"....Im not sure what you mean by this, but also sounds like bad form.

It is now the following Tues since OP paid the previous Sunday. When should OP expect to either have his package sent or even communication?

As to the feedback with similar shipping issues- fair point in that one may find it harder to sympathize given that. However this is a separate transaction between the OP, as the buyer, and the seller....and should be evaluated on the facts of the transaction itself.

Yup, "shining someone on" means stringing them along which I'm sure we all agree is bad form.
The rules on this forum- and the expectations with transactions- are obviously tighter for our community than than the anonymity of ebay so I get the fact that the seller should have sent tracking info by now or at least responded to the OP.
But seriously, don't count back to the 21st and the moment of payment to start the clock when allegedly the seller said he would ship several days later. If that was unacceptable then the OP never mentioned it.
I just went through this with an ebay knob that lives about 8 miles from me. He bought a lower valued card from me ($35) on a BIN/BO that I had listed with $2.25 PWE. 3 days after the sale he's asking where his card is. Really? I knew right then that I'd be eating this one. Since the card was PWE there was no tracking on it. Several messages and a month later I'm refunding him for non-delivery. Yup, all on me for not having tracking, but that's the reality here in the GWN with our postal system. Registered would have been about $12 and NO ONE is going to pay that on a $35 card.
I'm just saying that crying 3 days after someone says they will ship is also bad form, regardless of when payment was made.
Like I said, maybe the seller is the problem here and now 10 days later it seems more likely. Again, hindsight is 20/20.

[DynaEtch]

Originally Posted by valleynuckfan

Yup, "shining someone on" means stringing them along which I'm sure we all agree is bad form.
The rules on this forum- and the expectations with transactions- are obviously tighter for our community than than the anonymity of ebay so I get the fact that the seller should have sent tracking info by now or at least responded to the OP.
But seriously, don't count back to the 21st and the moment of payment to start the clock when allegedly the seller said he would ship several days later. If that was unacceptable then the OP never mentioned it.
I just went through this with an ebay knob that lives about 8 miles from me. He bought a lower valued card from me ($35) on a BIN/BO that I had listed with $2.25 PWE. 3 days after the sale he's asking where his card is. Really? I knew right then that I'd be eating this one. Since the card was PWE there was no tracking on it. Several messages and a month later I'm refunding him for non-delivery. Yup, all on me for not having tracking, but that's the reality here in the GWN with our postal system. Registered would have been about $12 and NO ONE is going to pay that on a $35 card.
I'm just saying that crying 3 days after someone says they will ship is also bad form, regardless of when payment was made.
Like I said, maybe the seller is the problem here and now 10 days later it seems more likely. Again, hindsight is 20/20.

That's a different situation, different transaction. Not really pertinent to the facts of this transaction.

We can agree to disagree. We dont know the exact message timeline etc- and hey Im all ears if the other side wants to chime in, because it's true we have one side so far. But I can picture many scenarios in which it does make sense to base it off the original payment date. That is, after all, when the buyer paid. For example, what if the buyer paid, then waited days, then all the sudden Wednesday the seller says "I'll get it out on Thurs". Then nothing...no shipping, no communication. So by just saying that (which turned out to be false), we judge everything based off that date? Not saying that happened, but thats just one example.

One of my biggest peeves is when sellers say one thing, and then do another (I get this on ebay plenty). "Will get your item out in the mail today"....day passes...nothing. Often there will be a follow up the next day "Oh I was unable to get to the post office yesterday, but it's going out by this evening!"....evening passes, nothing. That's bad enough, but then when there's no communication. Yea sorry it's a bad look.

That's one reason why I started to wonder even back when OP first made the thread. Wasnt hindsight for me, stuff like that is a flag. Shows the user was active online 1/26 which would have been after the 1/25 (or 1/24, confusing OP). Do people have to be glued to blowout? No. But if Im taking $600ish for a transaction (if it's the item Im guessing), then I certainly would be communicating if I wasnt shipping out before 6 days. Just me though. Again, I'd love to hear the other side to get a balanced viewpoint.

[valleynuckfan]

Originally Posted by DynaEtch

That's a different situation, different transaction. Not really pertinent to the facts of this transaction.

We can agree to disagree. We dont know the exact message timeline etc- and hey Im all ears if the other side wants to chime in, because it's true we have one side so far. But I can picture many scenarios in which it does make sense to base it off the original payment date. That is, after all, when the buyer paid. For example, what if the buyer paid, then waited days, then all the sudden Wednesday the seller says "I'll get it out on Thurs". Then nothing...no shipping, no communication. So by just saying that (which turned out to be false), we judge everything based off that date? Not saying that happened, but thats just one example.

One of my biggest peeves is when sellers say one thing, and then do another (I get this on ebay plenty). "Will get your item out in the mail today"....day passes...nothing. Often there will be a follow up the next day "Oh I was unable to get to the post office yesterday, but it's going out by this evening!"....evening passes, nothing. That's bad enough, but then when there's no communication. Yea sorry it's a bad look.

That's one reason why I started to wonder even back when OP first made the thread. Wasnt hindsight for me, stuff like that is a flag. Shows the user was active online 1/26 which would have been after the 1/25 (or 1/24, confusing OP). Do people have to be glued to blowout? No. But if Im taking $600ish for a transaction (if it's the item Im guessing), then I certainly would be communicating if I wasnt shipping out before 6 days. Just me though. Again, I'd love to hear the other side to get a balanced viewpoint.

It's just a story about another crybaby whining after 3 days.
There are a lot of 'what ifs' 'maybe this', 'we don't know' and guessing if you want to spend days going back and forth. I don't.
The thread was started with 'x' amount of info, which I responded to after doing about a minute of research into his ebay FB to see if he was legit.
Everything I posted was true and on point.
At the time, the seller could have easily mailed out on the 24th or 25th as noted and the OP still mightn't have the card on the Saturday he chose to run up the flag. Very realistic.
If the OP had waited a few more days like most normal people we wouldn't be having this discussion.

[DynaEtch]

Originally Posted by valleynuckfan

It's just a story about another crybaby whining after 3 days.
There are a lot of 'what ifs' 'maybe this', 'we don't know' and guessing if you want to spend days going back and forth. I don't.
The thread was started with 'x' amount of info, which I responded to after doing about a minute of research into his ebay FB to see if he was legit.
Everything I posted was true and on point.
At the time, the seller could have easily mailed out on the 24th or 25th as noted and the OP still mightn't have the card on the Saturday he chose to run up the flag. Very realistic.
If the OP had waited a few more days like most normal people we wouldn't be having this discussion.

I think it's reasonable to expect a tracking number, particularly for an item of this magnitude. Looks like by Sat OP did not have that, so it was very doubtful it was sent out by that Wed or Thurs.

There was enough of a flag there as of Sat. A seller saying they will send it out by X date and then not doing that, w/o communication, is itself a flag. We agree to disagree.

[valleynuckfan]

Originally Posted by DynaEtch

I think it's reasonable to expect a tracking number, particularly for an item of this magnitude. Looks like by Sat OP did not have that, so it was very doubtful it was sent out by that Wed or Thurs.

There was enough of a flag there as of Sat. A seller saying they will send it out by X date and then not doing that, w/o communication, is itself a flag. We agree to disagree.

As of Saturday no one- including the OP- knew whether the card had been sent out or not. Because tracking wasn't provided is irrelevant to that. Many sellers don't post up tracking #s. If that was a flag for you then so be it.
Ask all the questions you need to after the fact. You have. Did the OP? We didn't know then. The OP was quite tight with info to start off with.
Based on that it was reasonable to wonder WTF? So a quick check showed this-
"Sometimes it takes longer be delivered than normal, but that's not my fault. I have no control of USPS."
The OP's own words when negged for an item arriving to a buyer later than the buyer expected- a whopping 5 days! Sounds to me the OP is quite aware that the postal service isn't terribly steady all the time and buyers needn't panic.
Sorry dude, I don't agree to disagree.
I just disagree, period.

[DynaEtch]

Originally Posted by valleynuckfan

As of Saturday no one- including the OP- knew whether the card had been sent out or not. Because tracking wasn't provided is irrelevant to that. Many sellers don't post up tracking #s. If that was a flag for you then so be it.
Ask all the questions you need to after the fact. You have. Did the OP? We didn't know then. The OP was quite tight with info to start off with.
Based on that it was reasonable to wonder WTF? So a quick check showed this-
"Sometimes it takes longer be delivered than normal, but that's not my fault. I have no control of USPS."
The OP's own words when negged for an item arriving to a buyer later than the buyer expected- a whopping 5 days! Sounds to me the OP is quite aware that the postal service isn't terribly steady all the time and buyers needn't panic.
Sorry dude, I don't agree to disagree.
I just disagree, period.

Cool...I disagree as well. Let's see how this one plays out.

[BeardedVol]

Originally Posted by valleynuckfan

It's just a story about another crybaby whining after 3 days.
There are a lot of 'what ifs' 'maybe this', 'we don't know' and guessing if you want to spend days going back and forth. I don't.
The thread was started with 'x' amount of info, which I responded to after doing about a minute of research into his ebay FB to see if he was legit.
Everything I posted was true and on point.
At the time, the seller could have easily mailed out on the 24th or 25th as noted and the OP still mightn't have the card on the Saturday he chose to run up the flag. Very realistic.
If the OP had waited a few more days like most normal people we wouldn't be having this discussion.

Was it a card or a coin ? & what State does the seller live in ( USPS is still using weather as an excuse for its poor service )

[JeffG1954]

Originally Posted by BeardedVol

Was it a card or a coin ? & what State does the seller live in ( USPS is still using weather as an excuse for its poor service )

It appears to be a coin....and the lack of communication from the seller is a problem no matter what state he/she lives in.

[DynaEtch]

Originally Posted by JeffG1954

It appears to be a coin....and the lack of communication from the seller is a problem no matter what state he/she lives in.

Agreed. $600ish item should have a tracking number provided. Tbh this is less about the drama of whether OP posted on Sat vs, what....Mon or Tues, and more about the current situation being a week and a half out without communication or a tracking number (if we are to believe everything posted, OP has been pretty sparse). All ears for both sides of the story though.

It's a bit strange considering the long itrader history of seller at 100%...but will have to see how it plays out. I think communication out to a week and half is expected.

[shrevecity]

I think everyone agrees that by now something should be happening. If it were me thus thread would not be made til end of next week after a claim had been started and neg left. 7 days or 3 weeks your protection is tge same.

At this point none of the other steps have been done. So why not?

[BeardedVol]

600 dollar coin should be sent with sig. confirmation & I would not use USPS - Fed Ex or UPS is better choice, but either way not shipped I guess.

[smackvay]

Originally Posted by BeardedVol

600 dollar coin should be sent with sig. confirmation & I would not use USPS - Fed Ex or UPS is better choice, but either way not shipped I guess.

Coins and bullion are not covered by insurance so doesn’t matter how they ship it. 3rd party insurance is about they only way you will be successful on collecting insurance on coins and such. Usps will sell you all the insurance you want but will not pay it out. Dont ask me how i know as I’ve learned the hard way.

Mike

[shrevecity]

Originally Posted by smackvay

Coins and bullion are not covered by insurance so doesn’t matter how they ship it. 3rd party insurance is about they only way you will be successful on collecting insurance on coins and such. Usps will sell you all the insurance you want but will not pay it out. Dont ask me how i know as I’ve learned the hard way.

Mike

On top of that SC would not provide anything else either. Ups and fed ex are less reliable than the usps.

[shrevecity]

Why has tgere been no feedback or anything left yet? That is typically a callout requirement.

[JeffG1954]

Originally Posted by shrevecity

Why has tgere been no feedback or anything left yet? That is typically a callout requirement.

OP hasn't logged on for a couple of days, maybe it has all been resolved?

[shrevecity]

Wrong thread