Why is the Mike Trout US175 so iconic????

[bear0555]

I don't get it either. It's a 3rd year card with a RC logo on it when it's not a RC. I wouldn't pay 2 bucks for if it had to stay in my collection.

[pete2345]

Overrated card of an Overrated player.

[OhioLawyerF5]

Originally Posted by oplum29

but of all his rookies

List them to help find your answer.

Iconic cards are rarely short prints, autos, etc... There need to be enough of them for every collector to realistically open packs for them before they grow to iconic status.

It's hard to imagine how someone who has been in the hobby very long even has to ask this question.

[jayjay0122]

Originally Posted by bear0555

I don't get it either. It's a 3rd year card with a RC logo on it when it's not a RC. I wouldn't pay 2 bucks for if it had to stay in my collection.

I'm going to assume you think the 2009 BC auto is his RC?

[Nostalgia]

I don't love the base US175, but I am absolutely in love with the Diamond Anniversary parallel.

[cardsin47]

The Player is iconic, which transfers to the status of the card. Without Trout, it’s just a 2 cent piece of undesirable cardboard.

[base set]

Collectors like Topps Baseball. It is the single most accessible baseball card product, equally available to everyone without as much effort as specialty/limited brands. I think the card just slowly gained momentum as Trout’s ROY & then MVP made him famous and people liked the fact that they could easily obtain a straightforward Rookie Card with no complex decision making about just -which- of all those Rookie Card cards to pick. The idea that a stack of just ordinary baseball cards might hold a $2 card, then a $5 card, etc. created a feedback mechanism of popularity. This ain’t rocket appliances.

[fabiani12333]

Originally Posted by hermanotarjeta

It’s not iconic.

It’s simply a card for baseball investors/graders/flippers who couldn’t afford to get his 2009 bowman chrome draft auto or just simply missed out.

/thread

[DaveedTO]

Originally Posted by hermanotarjeta

It’s not iconic.

It’s simply a card for baseball investors/graders/flippers who couldn’t afford to get his 2009 bowman chrome draft auto or just simply missed out.

BINGO!

[hermanotarjeta]

His 2009 bowman chrome auto is MORE iconic because it started the super expensive price trend for that line of cards - it is always cited for all first year card collectors hoping that their chrome prospect auto turns into the next one, ie the next trout, like the next Brady contenders, etc. That chrome Trout is one of the main reasons bowman chrome/draft boxes are priced the way they are today. Topps update pricing still varies based on player rookie logo card content and can be super cheap.

Nobody says, I’m hoping my third year rookie logo card turns into the next trout topps update, only true collectors and investor flipper bois who can’t afford the chrome auto bought into that.

In the end, very few really care about the topps update - it’s just an easy to find dollar pack card with no historical significance, much like prizm base rookies in football and basketball and topps chrome rookies - common cards for common folks so they can feel special after grading and owning them in bulk.

[ThoseBackPages]

inserts (especially airbrushed MILB cards) are not Rookie Cards

[hermanotarjeta]

Originally Posted by ThoseBackPages

inserts (especially airbrushed MILB cards) are not Rookie Cards

Inserts that are first year cards can be more iconic than third year rookie logo cards.

[hermanotarjeta]

There are so many topps base rookie/rookie logo cards that are as iconic or more iconic that the trout update - 1985 topps McGwire, 1980 topps Rickey Henderson, 1963 Topps Pete rose, etc etc.

Even for the modern day rookie logo cards, who is to say that in 10-15 years the acuna topps update or ohtani rookie card won’t pass up the trout in iconicity?

[oldgoldy97]

What was the numbering?

[hermanotarjeta]

Originally Posted by oldgoldy97

What was the numbering?

It didn’t sink in until this thread topps used the prefix “US” to catalogue the card.

This card should be on Mount Rushmore for that reason alone.

[DynaEtch]

Originally Posted by oplum29

yeah i get that. i know that. but of all his rookies, short prints, autographs, how did THIS one become THE card? why this one? why not Bowman, or BC, or Sterling, or Finest. why this one? because it's Topps?

Base Topps rookies tend to be the go-to for base RCs, this isnt surprising. Longevity, which those other brands like Finest dont have, and Topps being the 'main' baseball card set each year.

I think it's a combination of
-organic surge in value (it's not a situation of manufactured scarcity and card company stamps a card /5 to make it 'valuable'...people realize after the fact it's a desired card and go scouring old commons boxes for it).
-that there are a lot of them out there to be widely known (harder for a SSP with 10 copies to be that widely iconic)
-the hobby basically designating Trout during that decade as 'the' top dog player to get...whether totally justified or not, just how it was.
-opportunity for flippers and investors (especially to make bank off grading)
-Im surprised this hasnt even been mentioned ITT to this point, but I'll also say the visual of the card itself (which can have something to do with iconic-ness): the close up of Trout batting, it's a grabbing pose. The above par design of 2011 Topps, especially compared to other bland Topps designs of the time.

[fabiani12333]

Originally Posted by hermanotarjeta

His 2009 bowman chrome auto is MORE iconic because it started the super expensive price trend for that line of cards - it is always cited for all first year card collectors hoping that their chrome prospect auto turns into the next one, ie the next trout, like the next Brady contenders, etc. That chrome Trout is one of the main reasons bowman chrome/draft boxes are priced the way they are today. Topps update pricing still varies based on player rookie logo card content and can be super cheap.

Nobody says, I’m hoping my third year rookie logo card turns into the next trout topps update, only true collectors and investor flipper bois who can’t afford the chrome auto bought into that.

In the end, very few really care about the topps update - it’s just an easy to find dollar pack card with no historical significance, much like prizm base rookies in football and basketball and topps chrome rookies - common cards for common folks so they can feel special after grading and owning them in bulk.

Damn, Hermano -- you're on fire.

[hxcmilkshake]

Originally Posted by hermanotarjeta

His 2009 bowman chrome auto is MORE iconic because it started the super expensive price trend for that line of cards - it is always cited for all first year card collectors hoping that their chrome prospect auto turns into the next one, ie the next trout, like the next Brady contenders, etc. That chrome Trout is one of the main reasons bowman chrome/draft boxes are priced the way they are today. Topps update pricing still varies based on player rookie logo card content and can be super cheap.

Nobody says, I’m hoping my third year rookie logo card turns into the next trout topps update, only true collectors and investor flipper bois who can’t afford the chrome auto bought into that.

In the end, very few really care about the topps update - it’s just an easy to find dollar pack card with no historical significance, much like prizm base rookies in football and basketball and topps chrome rookies - common cards for common folks so they can feel special after grading and owning them in bulk.

That settles it. I'm throwing out all my cards.

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[fabiani12333]

Originally Posted by DynaEtch

Base Topps rookies tend to be the go-to for base RCs, this isnt surprising. Longevity, which those other brands like Finest dont have, and Topps being the 'main' baseball card set each year.

I think it's a combination of
-organic surge in value (it's not a situation of manufactured scarcity and card company stamps a card /5 to make it 'valuable'...people realize after the fact it's a desired card and go scouring old commons boxes for it).
-that there are a lot of them out there to be widely known (harder for a SSP with 10 copies to be that widely iconic)
-the hobby basically designating Trout during that decade as 'the' top dog player to get...whether totally justified or not, just how it was.
-opportunity for flippers and investors (especially to make bank off grading)
-Im surprised this hasnt even been mentioned ITT to this point, but I'll also say the visual of the card itself (which can have something to do with iconic-ness): the close up of Trout batting, it's a grabbing pose. The above par design of 2011 Topps, especially compared to other bland Topps designs of the time.

I think a big part of Trout's 2011 Topps Update US175 popularity is all the parallels -- gold, black, blue (Walmart), red (Target) and the Diamond Anniversary versions (Platinum, Cognac and Hope). Prior to 2010-2011, you didn't have this many flagship parallels.

I'm not a fan of ultra-modern parallels, but this was one example of them making sense.

[OhioLawyerF5]

Originally Posted by hermanotarjeta

There are so many topps base rookie/rookie logo cards that are as iconic or more iconic that the trout update - 1985 topps McGwire, 1980 topps Rickey Henderson, 1963 Topps Pete rose, etc etc.

Even for the modern day rookie logo cards, who is to say that in 10-15 years the acuna topps update or ohtani rookie card won’t pass up the trout in iconicity?

Yes, the Trout RC is similar in status to the other iconic cards of the hobby's past. Thanks for confirming it. I agree, if Acuna has 10 years of being the best player in the game, his most popular rookie will likely also reach iconic status. That's sort of how it works.

[DynaEtch]

Originally Posted by hermanotarjeta

His 2009 bowman chrome auto is MORE iconic because it started the super expensive price trend for that line of cards - it is always cited for all first year card collectors hoping that their chrome prospect auto turns into the next one, ie the next trout, like the next Brady contenders, etc. That chrome Trout is one of the main reasons bowman chrome/draft boxes are priced the way they are today. Topps update pricing still varies based on player rookie logo card content and can be super cheap.

Nobody says, I’m hoping my third year rookie logo card turns into the next trout topps update, only true collectors and investor flipper bois who can’t afford the chrome auto bought into that.

In the end, very few really care about the topps update - it’s just an easy to find dollar pack card with no historical significance, much like prizm base rookies in football and basketball and topps chrome rookies - common cards for common folks so they can feel special after grading and owning them in bulk.

Depends really on what you mean by iconic I suppose. No question the BC Auto is more pricey, probably the better investment, and perhaps of more historical significance (although I think they both have significance in their own ways). I like the Topps Update photo better- up close swing from in a game, dynamic feeling to the card, very classic 'Trout"....the BC auto is a pretty lackluster stationary pic, wider shot, empty seats in the background (idk what it is, maybe batting practice). Not being a primarily baseball card collector I had to look up the pic to remember exactly what it is, but I would have an idea what the 2011 Update Trout is even if OP didnt post a pic.

Just my two cents. I realize there is a lot more to iconicness than just the pic. But its hard to say the 2011 Update Trout didnt have massive influence on the hobby, primarily just because it was so accessible. Is a lot of the action on the card from flipbois/inverstorbois? Sure. But still, looking back at the list I made of reasons the US175 became big...it's not even just one of them in isolation, but the effect of all of them together- sort of a perfect storm.

[theshowandme]

All iconic

[boxbuster7]

I think it is iconic because it shouldnt be - look at the 1952 mantle.

As others have stated it was a common card that anybody could have gotten.

I gotta say I was helping go through a persons collection and finding trout 2011 updates just sitting there without sleeves was one of the craziest things I saw

[fabiani12333]

1990 Leaf Frank Thomas is more iconic.

1952 Topps Willie Mays, also.

[oplum29]

Originally Posted by OhioLawyerF5

List them to help find your answer.

Iconic cards are rarely short prints, autos, etc... There need to be enough of them for every collector to realistically open packs for them before they grow to iconic status.

It's hard to imagine how someone who has been in the hobby very long even has to ask this question.

it's not hard to imagine, it's a legit question.

some players have one rookie, you don't have a choice. some have a couple of rookies, but not short printed. and then some have rookies who have short printed, autographed, premiere brands, and yet, of all Trout's rookies...it was the regular BASE version of Topps Updated that went bonkers. this isn't a $25 card, it's worth in the hundreds raw...

from the list i found, he's got a total of 7 true rookie cards:

Bowman Chrome
Bowman Draft
Bowman Sterling
Finest
Contenders- (not MLB licensed)
Playoff Prime Cuts- (not MLB licensed)
Topps Update

you talk economics, supply and demand....again, this cards isn't short printed. isn't difficult to find, and isn't from an expensive brand. it's a regular card.

Topps is a regular brand, it's the staple of baseball cards. it's not a higher end brand like Finest for example.

that's why i'm asking, why exactly THIS card became THE card to collect. what makes it so special?