Latest sentiment on Wembanyama cards

[dunkindutchmen]

Originally Posted by Cardsandcoffee

I guess I should look for a BCU auto at a great price and/or wait for Prizm hobby to drop and the low#d parallels to trickle out. Thought the BCU would get more support as that was my personal fav. However that’s likely influenced by my baseball experiences. How much are we guessing it drops to before stabilizing, a year or two from now?

The Prizm photo just is so bad lol Suppose I’ll have to bite that bullet eventually

In the basketball market, I think plenty of people are growing fatigued of Prizm and death by parallels. That BCU auto is unique, it's a far better pic than the Prizm rookie, and it's going to be in relatively low supply. (I think I've seen estimates of 750-1000 cards produced.) It has plenty going for it....

Just remember, there is a thread on this board, when the BCU auto was $1200-1500, and virtually everyone on here said to sell immediately if you had one.

Take everything you read on here with a grain of salt.

[TheGoatOfLife]

Wembanyama is the great hobby uncertainty and also our biggest attraction!


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[Cardsandcoffee]

Originally Posted by dunkindutchmen

In the basketball market, I think plenty of people are growing fatigued of Prizm and death by parallels. That BCU auto is unique, it's a far better pic than the Prizm rookie, and it's going to be in relatively low supply. (I think I've seen estimates of 750-1000 cards produced.) It has plenty going for it....

Just remember, there is a thread on this board, when the BCU auto was $1200-1500, and virtually everyone on here said to sell immediately if you had one.

Take everything you read on here with a grain of salt.

Thanks for that perspective. A print run of 750-1000 would make sense, based off of what I can gather.

And that’s a good reminder nobody on here is always completely accurate in their assessments. Hobby logic never makes complete sense!

[Uncbuddha]

Not to sound like a broken record but save your wemby allocated money now and buy his one and one rookie when it comes out. Numbered and will be a beautiful card. Likely will have a nice in game action shot. I feel like in the future one and one will be held in very high regard. Just my opinion.

[hermanotarjeta]

Buy the dip after his first injury.

[Cardsandcoffee]

Originally Posted by Uncbuddha

Not to sound like a broken record but save your wemby allocated money now and buy his one and one rookie when it comes out. Numbered and will be a beautiful card. Likely will have a nice in game action shot. I feel like in the future one and one will be held in very high regard. Just my opinion.

Interesting thought. Are Panini One and One considered one of the "main" desirable chase sets? I'm somewhat familiar with them but had the impression they are more of a beautiful, niche set and not the set everyone automatically thinks of when considering a players "best", most valuable or most iconic cards. Definitely would like to hear thoughts on that.

In regards to his injury potential - I'm not as concerned with Wemby's as it's all conjecture at the moment. More so, I'm a believer in his talent and upside and was hoping to gather thoughts on his "best" cards, present and yet-to-come. He just has that "WOW" factor to me.

There was a lot of ragging on the Bowman U prospect cards upon arrival and wanted to see if any perspectives have shifted. Looks like theres only 3 possible prospect cards possible now with the advent of the new 2023 BCU release.

Current plan is to hunt for a nice 2022 BCU auto of his at a good price and also save up some powder for either a Prizm parallel or his NT or Flawless.

[TheGoatOfLife]

2023-24 Donruss hobby releases this Friday 1-26-24.

Wembanyama is in 12ish insert sets in Donruss and has a base rated rookie along with many parallels of these cards.


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[Uncbuddha]

Originally Posted by Cardsandcoffee

Interesting thought. Are Panini One and One considered one of the "main" desirable chase sets? I'm somewhat familiar with them but had the impression they are more of a beautiful, niche set and not the set everyone automatically thinks of when considering a players "best", most valuable or most iconic cards. Definitely would like to hear thoughts on that.

In regards to his injury potential - I'm not as concerned with Wemby's as it's all conjecture at the moment. More so, I'm a believer in his talent and upside and was hoping to gather thoughts on his "best" cards, present and yet-to-come. He just has that "WOW" factor to me.

There was a lot of ragging on the Bowman U prospect cards upon arrival and wanted to see if any perspectives have shifted. Looks like theres only 3 possible prospect cards possible now with the advent of the new 2023 BCU release.

Current plan is to hunt for a nice 2022 BCU auto of his at a good price and also save up some powder for either a Prizm parallel or his NT or Flawless.

Well there is what is popular now and what is going to be popular in the future. Took a few years after release for Topps chrome to become king. Took a few years after release for prizm to be king. Maybe the same will happen with one and one. In my opinion it’s definitely the best looking panini card and it isn’t close. The thicker card stock and very pricey distribution method is probably the biggest thing going against it to keep it from being the mainstream rookie. No chance little Johnny is going to buy one and one at Walmart with his lunch money and pull the best rookie.

For collectors though it’s the best looking rookie, it has the best looking RPAs, and best looking autos. Should at least be more highly regarded than national treasures. It’s one of the last sets to come out sonifntheybwere smart they would make the patches game used/worn at least rather than the other crap we’ve had for the last two years.

[Uncbuddha]

And just add that is just my opinion. I’m not a hobby big wig like amotnofnfolksnon here. I don’t through thousands of dollars T the hot new thing chasing rookies. I just collect my Tar Heels and I definitely get their one and one cards.

[anusinha]

Just looking at the overall RC class and its rough. Victor or bust basically.

[Cardsandcoffee]

Originally Posted by Uncbuddha

Well there is what is popular now and what is going to be popular in the future. Took a few years after release for Topps chrome to become king. Took a few years after release for prizm to be king. Maybe the same will happen with one and one. In my opinion it’s definitely the best looking panini card and it isn’t close. The thicker card stock and very pricey distribution method is probably the biggest thing going against it to keep it from being the mainstream rookie. No chance little Johnny is going to buy one and one at Walmart with his lunch money and pull the best rookie.

For collectors though it’s the best looking rookie, it has the best looking RPAs, and best looking autos. Should at least be more highly regarded than national treasures. It’s one of the last sets to come out sonifntheybwere smart they would make the patches game used/worn at least rather than the other crap we’ve had for the last two years.

Thanks for your take. Opinions like that are very helpful. From the sounds of it, I’ll prob battle you in the future if I see a nice Antawn Jamison or VC One and One haha

[Cardsandcoffee]

Also is it me or when looking at the non-auto extended base SP of the 2022 BCU Wembanyama #101… some are very dark and some are more normal looking? It’s like there’s an opaque filter on a lot of them. I’ve seen both kinds grade Gem so it doesn’t seem like there’s a problem from the grading aspect FWIW

[Uncbuddha]

Originally Posted by Cardsandcoffee

Thanks for your take. Opinions like that are very helpful. From the sounds of it, I’ll prob battle you in the future if I see a nice Antawn Jamison or VC One and One haha

Vince had a card in each of the 3 one and one sets. I have his base Hawks card, his purple Raptors and his Blue nets card. Twan hasn’t had a one and one card unfortunately. Would love to see an Antawn or Sheed one and one.

I have a great looking Coby White RPA. Still trying to get a nice Cam Johnson. Not going after RPAs from the next year since they were no longer event/game worn patches. I have a purple Cole Anthony rookie and a Blue Day’Ron Sharpe.

[Pastretta]

I’m hoarding all the Hoops I pull and then again I sold Giannis Prizm Base in lots of 3 for $15 back in theday lol

13-14 Prizm Hobby were $40-60 though

[BambinoShuffle]

Originally Posted by Pastretta

I’m hoarding all the Hoops I pull and then again I sold Giannis Prizm Base in lots of 3 for $15 back in theday lol

13-14 Prizm Hobby were $40-60 though

Hoops was first to market and has the legacy of spurs center rookie cards… Admiral and Duncan. Just wish they still had hoops premium. I submitted two purple hoops Wemby’s and I’ll sit out the Prizm initial hype until Megaboxes come out.

[jcardstore]

Originally Posted by Pastretta

I’m hoarding all the Hoops I pull and then again I sold Giannis Prizm Base in lots of 3 for $15 back in theday lol

13-14 Prizm Hobby were $40-60 though

Look at what I sold for $70

https://www.blowoutforums.com/showthread.php?t=865529

[oldgoldy97]

Originally Posted by jcardstore

Look at what I sold for $70

https://www.blowoutforums.com/showthread.php?t=865529

But you got what you wanted then.

[Cardsandcoffee]

Will Wemby have any game used relics this year? Maybe just Flawless? If the relics aren’t game worn I’ll stay away.

[BBases31]

Originally Posted by jcardstore

Look at what I sold for $70

https://www.blowoutforums.com/showthread.php?t=865529

My god that was bad

[Metalbreath]

Originally Posted by Cardsandcoffee

This was my take too. I don’t put much stock in any influencers but for what it’s worth, I have seen some begin to change their mind on the matter and advocate the BCU auto. Such a weird period for Wembanyama collectors

100 percent agree with this.

[ninjacookies]

Problem with modern prospecting is that it's nothing like it was even 5 years ago. You're buying in ridiculously high even if you factor in inflation over a half a decade (which isn't much). The switch flipped in 2018/19 with Lululemons. I remember swooping up his optic holos for under $100 back then. FOTL boxes of select for msrp. NT FOTL for $450.

Your risk assessment buying any top tier draftee their rookie year now is off the charts. You're almost all but guaranteed to lose medium to long term even if they do end up being transcendent. The only saving grace would be multiple mvp's and rings by their mid 20's. However realistic you believe those odds to be is on you.

[Pastretta]

Originally Posted by jcardstore

Look at what I sold for $70

https://www.blowoutforums.com/showthread.php?t=865529

Oh my. I’m so sorry, I really am and that goes to everyone across all sports/hobby enthusiasts out there

[Cardsandcoffee]

Originally Posted by ninjacookies

Problem with modern prospecting is that it's nothing like it was even 5 years ago. You're buying in ridiculously high even if you factor in inflation over a half a decade (which isn't much). The switch flipped in 2018/19 with Lululemons. I remember swooping up his optic holos for under $100 back then. FOTL boxes of select for msrp. NT FOTL for $450.

Your risk assessment buying any top tier draftee their rookie year now is off the charts. You're almost all but guaranteed to lose medium to long term even if they do end up being transcendent. The only saving grace would be multiple mvp's and rings by their mid 20's. However realistic you believe those odds to be is on you.

Appreciate your insight. Helpful for sure. I wish I was collecting more pr-pandemic but alas I can’t go back in time!

Out of curiosity at what price point would you be comfortable buying into any Wembanyama card? For example, his BCU Auto has been running anywhere from $1100-2200 raw, I’m assuming depending on auto quality and card condition.

[yiguiri2002]

Originally Posted by ninjacookies

Problem with modern prospecting is that it's nothing like it was even 5 years ago. You're buying in ridiculously high even if you factor in inflation over a half a decade (which isn't much). The switch flipped in 2018/19 with Lululemons. I remember swooping up his optic holos for under $100 back then. FOTL boxes of select for msrp. NT FOTL for $450.

Your risk assessment buying any top tier draftee their rookie year now is off the charts. You're almost all but guaranteed to lose medium to long term even if they do end up being transcendent. The only saving grace would be multiple mvp's and rings by their mid 20's. However realistic you believe those odds to be is on you.

Ninja, I agree with the premise, but Wemby is a special case.

No RPAs. No licensed rookie autos. And even all the non-licensed stuff (Allen&Ginter, Bowman, Prizm Draft Picks) won't be enough to cover the lack of Flawless/Immac/NT Collegiate we get every year.

There's a huge chunk of market cap that won't be there for Wemby. It's a game changer at least in the short term.

[ninjacookies]

Originally Posted by Cardsandcoffee

Appreciate your insight. Helpful for sure. I wish I was collecting more pr-pandemic but alas I can’t go back in time!

Out of curiosity at what price point would you be comfortable buying into any Wembanyama card? For example, his BCU Auto has been running anywhere from $1100-2200 raw, I’m assuming depending on auto quality and card condition.

If going for autos, gun to my head I'd probably go with his BCU, as it's an actual action shot and not a Jet Magazine candid.

I just couldn't possibly bring myself to drop a g on a french league card. But it's shiny and chrome, so if your budget permits, I'd say that's the way to go if you simply can't wait it out for prices to drop a bit.

Originally Posted by yiguiri2002

Ninja, I agree with the premise, but Wemby is a special case.

No RPAs. No licensed rookie autos. And even all the non-licensed stuff (Allen&Ginter, Bowman, Prizm Draft Picks) won't be enough to cover the lack of Flawless/Immac/NT Collegiate we get every year.

There's a huge chunk of market cap that won't be there for Wemby. It's a game changer at least in the short term.

The 'nu money' will just get refunnelled into his non-auto flagship, of which there will be more than plenty to go around as the Poopnini print machines go brrrrrrr. We haven't even began to scratch the surface of the 2023 roadmap, as they're still just now getting Banchero Immac mojo out to the masses.

This is just like Ben Simmons' rookie year, except we're in an era of hyper-production. Flawless/NT true bass will be the big dogs. But he will have a glut of non-AU/event worn stuff to choose from by next years' end.