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Old 01-12-2024, 03:55 PM   #476
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No one is chasing single digit HR first baseman on last place teams. His rookie will be worth a nickel or two
Do you want to establish a futures market right now and let me buy? Name some prices for Independence Day or better parallels and I may be willing to pre-order them

He hit like .450 with 20 bombs as a senior, made the majors the same year and hit .275. There is a non zero chance the power develops.

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Old 01-12-2024, 04:00 PM   #477
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Well well well

I see George Brett autograph. Wow congrats topps to finally paying George Brett

And we all know what that means ?

2024 topps heritage autos !!!!!!
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Old 01-12-2024, 04:04 PM   #478
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I think we're mis-understanding each other.

We collectors have historically enjoyed enjoy the red angels refractors and blue dodgers refractors ("naturally occuring" because all cards get each parallel), now we get "team color" red angels. So I'm saying it's funny but a good move by topps.

And not sure why you keep clarifying what I already agree with:

1) Golden mirror cards, one for each base card are 1) different images from base and 2) have no design elements (see the acuna card on topps' presale page)

2) Someone on the internet thinks he confirmed with topps directly that there will ALSO be normal traditional image variations, in addition to golden mirrors, like we knew in all recent years up through 2022 (skip 2023 where they replaced image variations with golden mirrors). for these traditional variations, topps changed the image but maintains the card number. in the case of legends variations, they kept the card number but changed the subject (to a legend player like mickey mantle or brooks robinson or cal ripken jr., generally using the card number from a random yankee or orioles player).
The problem with #2 is that some random at Fanatics/Topps said there would be SSPs and SPs. But there was no confirmation that it would be going back to exactly what is was in 2022 and before. That is just what people rolled with. There's now two full set variations.
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Old 01-12-2024, 04:06 PM   #479
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Do you want to establish a futures market right now and let me buy? Name some prices for Independence Day or better parallels and I may be willing to pre-order them
Something completely dependent on when they are pulled and listed?

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He hit like .450 with 20 bombs as a senior, made the majors the same year and hit .275. There is a non zero chance the power develops.
He had a ONE HR in 97 PAs of minor league ball and ONE HR in 132 PAs in the majors lol. He probably has the least HRs in the first 130 PAs of any 1B in the last decade
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Old 01-12-2024, 04:06 PM   #480
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The problem with #2 is that some random at Fanatics/Topps said there would be SSPs and SPs. But there was no confirmation that it would be going back to exactly what is was in 2022 and before. That is just what people rolled with. There's now two full set variations.
Agree with you 100%. I'm hopeful they go back, but agree that there is no confirmation (which is no change from prior years, the variations were not part of the official checklist)
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Old 01-12-2024, 04:12 PM   #481
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Something completely dependent on when they are pulled and listed?



He had a ONE HR in 97 PAs of minor league ball and ONE HR in 132 PAs in the majors lol. He probably has the least HRs in the first 130 PAs of any 1B in the last decade
I’ll give you 3 months from release to fill my order….
Or Set a line on HR total. I’ll bet on over 10 right now…
Wil also bet he finishes top 10 in BA for 1b

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Old 01-12-2024, 04:13 PM   #482
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Checklist:

https://www.topps.com/media/pdf/MLB2...hecklistV1.pdf

Dominguez is in series 1 for all you guys who thought he’d be held for 2025

Unless I missed them, looks like Caminero, Winn, and Lawlar were held back for series 2
There are 65 RCs on the base checklist.

57 of them debuted in June or July of 2023. 5 in August. 3 in September (Ronny Mauricio, Jasson Dominguez, Evan Carter).

So it looks like the criteria for S1 RCs is 1. debuted first half of season or 2. hot rookie who will sell product.
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Old 01-12-2024, 04:18 PM   #483
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Do you want to establish a futures market right now and let me buy? Name some prices for Independence Day or better parallels and I may be willing to pre-order them

He hit like .450 with 20 bombs as a senior, made the majors the same year and hit .275. There is a non zero chance the power develops.
I think he could end up similar to a Darin Erstad offensively.
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Old 01-12-2024, 04:21 PM   #484
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From the Dual Auto:

BSDA-CLP Will Clark San Francisco Giants
BSDA-CLP Buster Posey San Francisco Giants


Maaaaan, can't we just get an auto card with Timmy and Buster .... is that too much to ask?

I think a 2020 Diamond Icons patch is the only one with these two together without anyone else.
Timmy has only signed for Topps for one year since retiring (2020, I think).
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Old 01-12-2024, 04:24 PM   #485
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Well well well

I see George Brett autograph. Wow congrats topps to finally paying George Brett

And we all know what that means ?

2024 topps heritage autos !!!!!!
Don't be so sure.....looks like the auto in flagship is a sitcker auto, whereas Heritage would need to be on-card.

Hoping you're right, though!
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Old 01-12-2024, 04:25 PM   #486
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I’ll give you 3 months from release to fill my order….
I'm not up to date on the market for mediocre 1B so it'd be tough for me to set a line

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Or Set a line on HR total. I’ll bet on over 10 right now…
Steamer says 12, Zips says 13. We can go with 12

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Wil also bet he finishes top 10 in BA for 1b
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Old 01-12-2024, 04:29 PM   #487
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So what will a case run?

Also I assume it would be better to get pre-sale through Topps than the big 3
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Old 01-12-2024, 04:31 PM   #488
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12 boxes per case
12 packs per box
6 cards per pack

$3000 Hobby Case

6 boxes per case
6 packs per box
20 cards per pack

$5000 Jumbo Case

you can't even make 1 set per case because of bad collation
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Old 01-12-2024, 04:35 PM   #489
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Timmy has only signed for Topps for one year since retiring (2020, I think).
Looks like 2020 and 2021 but yeah, I get it. Doesn't stop me from wanting he and Buster on the dual sign.

Just need to find him signing in person I guess ... then go hunt down Buster in the owner's box at Oracle Park.
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Old 01-12-2024, 05:16 PM   #490
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12 boxes per case
12 packs per box
6 cards per pack

$3000 Hobby Case

6 boxes per case
6 packs per box
20 cards per pack

$5000 Jumbo Case

you can't even make 1 set per case because of bad collation
Not following you... where did you find that information or is that just a wild guess?
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Old 01-12-2024, 05:16 PM   #491
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Well well well

I see George Brett autograph. Wow congrats topps to finally paying George Brett

And we all know what that means ?

2024 topps heritage autos !!!!!!


If he's not on the Heritage auto list, I will riot. Well, I probably won't riot, but I will write a strongly worded email!
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Old 01-12-2024, 05:17 PM   #492
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Not following you... where did you find that information or is that just a wild guess?
logical progression from 2023 Update reduction in cards and packs per case.
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Old 01-12-2024, 05:32 PM   #493
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12 boxes per case
12 packs per box
6 cards per pack

$3000 Hobby Case

6 boxes per case
6 packs per box
20 cards per pack

$5000 Jumbo Case

you can't even make 1 set per case because of bad collation
And Complete Sets will sell for $25.
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I’ll give you 3 months from release to fill my order….
Or Set a line on HR total. I’ll bet on over 10 right now…
Wil also bet he finishes top 10 in BA for 1b
Are you making "the call" on him now, or should we expect BBases to hi-jack that as well 6 months late as well?
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The black that wasn't listed by Topps on their breakdown of the base card variations?
Yes......

Because there is no mention of hobby or jumbo exclusives. Same for clear.
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Old 01-12-2024, 06:04 PM   #496
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Timmy has only signed for Topps for one year since retiring (2020, I think).
Poor Timmy. Something happened to him after 2020. Look it up, if you haven't.
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Old 01-12-2024, 06:09 PM   #497
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If he's not on the Heritage auto list, I will riot. Well, I probably won't riot, but I will write a strongly worded email!
Amen! This could be the best hobby news of 2024.
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Poor Timmy. Something happened to him after 2020. Look it up, if you haven't.
Poor guy has had a rough retirement. He’s what brought me back to collecting.
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Yes.

Because there is no mention of hobby or jumbo exclusives. Same for clear.
Got it. Just curious, when has the black been different than any other colors?

I guess I don't see what makes the black that special, other than it's a more desirable color than pink or blue.
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There is a non zero chance the power develops.
Needs a swing change which would likely curb the AVG upside.

He (Nolan Schanuel) also did not hit the ball hard at all in 90 batted ball events last season. Min 50 BBE, he was 488 out of 496 in max EV (source: baseball savant)

10 HR in 600 PAs is a good O/U. His cards should not cost much. I had never heard of him, but I don't prospect. He wasn't on the radar for 12tm fantasy leagues last year either.
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