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Old 01-11-2024, 12:21 PM   #351
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Can’t wait to see the box breaks from all the people who say they hate it.
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Old 01-11-2024, 12:36 PM   #352
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If the sample Elly they use for Marketing is OC, what chance does a regular pack pulled card have....
I think it depends on how you are basing your centering. If you're using only the picture area behind the neon or the neon border, yup, off center.

But, you take the sides from the outside of the neon on the left and the outside edge of the picture area on the right side, it's centered. Top/bottom is a little off, but centered if you use bottom neon and top picture area, which doesn't make sense because the words and neon go above it.

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Old 01-11-2024, 12:38 PM   #353
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I think the design looks great and something very unique that will be memorable.

You are never going to get everyone to agree that they nailed the design. Especially not this forum.
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Old 01-11-2024, 12:39 PM   #354
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It's different. It's nice to see a non white border every so often...now if they would just have image variations, I'd be happy.
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Old 01-11-2024, 12:39 PM   #355
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Don't hate it. Want to see what the parallels look like
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Old 01-11-2024, 12:41 PM   #356
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Huh! I wonder how these will look in Gilded? Total opposite ends of the spectrum.

It’s tailor made for Ben Baller, though!


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Old 01-11-2024, 12:43 PM   #357
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I like this years design. Have always been in favor for more 'tech" based designs (2015 Topps, Strata, Etc.)
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Old 01-11-2024, 12:48 PM   #358
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I love that its unique. I don't like it when design's are so close to previous ones. I don't think its perfect, but nothing is. I want to see better Independence Day parallel's. Hopefully they improve on those this year.
This! I’m fine with the design, but I’d love to see more effort put into the parallels. The 2018 Independence Day comes to mind. Gimme that.
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Old 01-11-2024, 12:53 PM   #359
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I'm indifferent. I'll need to see them in person before I decide how I feel about them. Chrome should look great. Parallels could be awesome if they don't mess it up.
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Old 01-11-2024, 12:56 PM   #360
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It looks fun, I like it. Parallels should look great!
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Old 01-11-2024, 12:57 PM   #361
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Initial thought was terrible, but it's quickly growing on me. I like that it's something different
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Old 01-11-2024, 12:58 PM   #362
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Not my favorite design but might grow on me. I am happy that it is different. Feel like some of these sets blend together a bit so at the very least am happy to see something different than expected.

Now makes sense that we didnt see black parallel on the original odds released. Thats my favorite flagship parallel so a little bummed they probably wont have that one this year.


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They will. Hopefully not just extend the borders and make the whole card black.

I really like the design.
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Old 01-11-2024, 01:02 PM   #363
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It’s tailor made for Ben Baller, though!
RIP BB (cards). Do you think Burbank is still holding all those super nonrare (found in one place) parallels?
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Old 01-11-2024, 01:03 PM   #364
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I wouldn't worry about the Black not being there. It will probably extend to the bottom. I believe they already released the parallel list. I am pretty sure black was on there.

I am not seeing it listed on cardboard connection or beckett. Keeping fingers crossed they will have it or it was listed somewhere else


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Old 01-11-2024, 01:06 PM   #365
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I'm indifferent. I'll need to see them in person before I decide how I feel about them. Chrome should look great. Parallels could be awesome if they don't mess it up.

You make a good point. This design will probably work well for Chrome—which was likely their primary focus when designing.


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Old 01-11-2024, 01:09 PM   #366
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Where this design would rank for me in recent times:

1. 2018
2. 2022
3. 2023
4. 2019
5. 2024
6. 2020
7. 2021
2019 is the only design from recent years that I actually liked....the rest were all pretty "meh" for me....certainly nothing that compares with the best pre-1990 Topps designs....
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Old 01-11-2024, 01:18 PM   #367
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Where this design would rank for me in recent times:

1. 2018
2. 2022
3. 2023
4. 2019
5. 2024
6. 2020
7. 2021

2022 is my favorite starting from 2018, a simple clean design. 2024 could end up very high on my list.
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Old 01-11-2024, 01:19 PM   #368
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I'm just gonna go on record to say I really like it. The size of the border on the Elly looked a bit much, but all the other mockups look better. Color me excited.
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Old 01-11-2024, 01:20 PM   #369
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You make a good point. This design will probably work well for Chrome—which was likely their primary focus when designing.


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Think the design will work great for chrome and sapphire. Gilded is going to look real dumb.
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Old 01-11-2024, 01:23 PM   #370
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Think the design will work great for chrome and sapphire. Gilded is going to look real dumb.
Gilded with the same design as previous years would look dumb. But I can definitely think of ways to use this design and make it look fantastic as a gilded card. It would definitely lose the "feel" of the neon in the process, but gilded should have a different feel anyway.
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Old 01-11-2024, 01:24 PM   #371
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I don't like to compliment Fanatics. But I do like this design.

Dig the transition from white to black on the borders.

But I always like the less traditional designs. 1990 is one of my all time favorites.
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Old 01-11-2024, 01:33 PM   #372
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All the Fanatics comments have me a little confused. I thought they just bought Topps and are just letting Topps operate as normal. Do we know if Fanatics have any formal involvement in product design and whatnot for Topps? Or is my question itself just naive? Asking in good faith here, not trying to stir the pot or take one side or the other.
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Old 01-11-2024, 01:36 PM   #373
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Where this design would rank for me in recent times:

1. 2018
2. 2022
3. 2023
4. 2019
5. 2024
6. 2020
7. 2021


Middle of the pack for me.

1.2019
2.2022
3.2023
4.2024
5.2021
6.2020
7.2018
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Old 01-11-2024, 01:38 PM   #374
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All the Fanatics comments have me a little confused. I thought they just bought Topps and are just letting Topps operate as normal. Do we know if Fanatics have any formal involvement in product design and whatnot for Topps? Or is my question itself just naive? Asking in good faith here, not trying to stir the pot or take one side or the other.
I think Fanatics has taken over more of the marketing and sales side of things.

I'm in the same boat you are, they said from the beginning they were going to let Topps keep running as normal. They kept all of the management and leadership in place. I think the only thing they did was poached some people from Panini.
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Old 01-11-2024, 02:07 PM   #375
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Black borders and huge borders will create an insane premium for PSA 10 paper.
If the borders were large like the Elly, the image could be shifted a given distance off center and would affect the centering ratio less than if the borders were narrower.
  • 3mm borders all around. Shift image 1mm. Now 2mm on one side, 4mm on the other. 33/67.
  • 5mm borders all around. Shift image 1mm. Now 4mm on one side, 6mm on the other. 40/60.

Larger margin of error with wider borders.

The black edges don't seem to chip like they used to. I think 2019 was the last crumbly corner/edge surfaces.

Anyone crazy enough to create a PSA submission on 1/31 for the $14.99/card special, guess at what you might hit for base, and be $5 ahead on those early sales?
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