First Buzz: 2023 Panini Prizm football cards

[Scottish Punk]

Originally Posted by mogwai316

Prizm blasters are up on Target website for $29.99 now.

Thanks for the notce. Against my better judgment, I am in for 3. 24 cards for $30. With at least 18 of those cards will be worth pennies.

[abovethesink]

Target did a lot of good in correcting the retail market when the limited the orders to three per sku per day without having to do some sort of workaround. This is of course in tandem with cooling demand and many will say a rising print run, but I think this is low key the biggest factor. The entire high margins instant flipping market was predicated on cutting off the supply to normal buyers so that they had to pay the flippers to get what they wanted. Without the flippers being able to hoard retail in the same way thanks to the change, that market has almost completely died and retail now sits out at more natural market rates.

[KhalDrogo]

Originally Posted by abovethesink

Target did a lot of good in correcting the retail market when the limited the orders to three per sku per day without having to do some sort of workaround. This is of course in tandem with cooling demand and many will say a rising print run, but I think this is low key the biggest factor. The entire high margins instant flipping market was predicated on cutting off the supply to normal buyers so that they had to pay the flippers to get what they wanted. Without the flippers being able to hoard retail in the same way thanks to the change, that market has almost completely died and retail now sits out at more natural market rates.

It also doesn't help that the most popular retail products (Prizm BKB and FB) are now a wasteland of junk base and undesirable parallels.

[Cwh812]

Seeing breakers with FOTL ripping today. Can’t believe there is t a checklist yet. Seems strange no checklist and product is out there. Will checklist drop with hobby?

[Scottish Punk]

Originally Posted by abovethesink

Target did a lot of good in correcting the retail market when the limited the orders to three per sku per day without having to do some sort of workaround. This is of course in tandem with cooling demand and many will say a rising print run, but I think this is low key the biggest factor. The entire high margins instant flipping market was predicated on cutting off the supply to normal buyers so that they had to pay the flippers to get what they wanted. Without the flippers being able to hoard retail in the same way thanks to the change, that market has almost completely died and retail now sits out at more natural market rates.

Originally Posted by KhalDrogo

It also doesn't help that the most popular retail products (Prizm BKB and FB) are now a wasteland of junk base and undesirable parallels.

Yes on both. I have seen Basketball Prizm available for months at my local Targets (multiple). That was unheard of a couple years ago. I have a feeling Wemby mania will get this year's snapped up.

[rmw10]

Originally Posted by Cwh812

Seeing breakers with FOTL ripping today. Can’t believe there is t a checklist yet. Seems strange no checklist and product is out there. Will checklist drop with hobby?

Pretty standard for Panini. You may get it 1-2 days before hobby if you're lucky. We've had products out for a week or more without a checklist.

[Rooftop]

Originally Posted by mogwai316

Prizm blasters are up on Target website for $29.99 now.

$30 for 24 cards?

Good luck with that…

[kluke84]

Bought two blasters on pre-order. If nothing else, it's not a 1k FOTL dice roll

[IronCladLou]

What's the ceiling on the blasters?

[majestik101]

Originally Posted by IronCladLou

What's the ceiling on the blasters?

$29.99

[Cojo4412]

The ceiling on the blasters is pretty terrible. There are no auto chances and ZERO numbered parallel chances. Best card you’ll hit is a non guaranteed mem card. Got my two from target yesterday and ripped them. Save your $30!

Link to vid:
https://youtu.be/JfdpMaiUltw

[Cwh812]

Seen some mangas but very few Colorblasts (maybe none - can’t remember any) coming out of the breakers FOTL boxers. Have seen more Black Finites and Black Shimmers than Mangas and CB’s combined.

[abovethesink]

Originally Posted by IronCladLou

What's the ceiling on the blasters?

Rookie QBs on the parallels, including the silver. Silver Purdy's from last year raw go for like $250. I haven't followed the CJ market and wouldn't guess it is that high, but the ceiling is probably like 4-5x box price unless you somehow hit more than one in the same box.

[blackbears86]

Originally Posted by Cojo4412

The ceiling on the blasters is pretty terrible. There are no auto chances and ZERO numbered parallel chances. Best card you’ll hit is a non guaranteed mem card. Got my two from target yesterday and ripped them. Save your $30!

Link to vid:
https://youtu.be/JfdpMaiUltw

Blasters have always been tough, but things are REALLY rough now with any panini retail for the last two+ years. Just absolutely terrible breaks.


I wouldn't buy these at $17.99 per blaster.


Public service announcement: Save your money and buy the singles you want. Let the breakers and degenerates blow their money on this garbage.

[kyle1707]

Yes can I have 12 box case of prizm football for $10,000 dollars please


LMFAO

[oldgoldy97]

Originally Posted by kyle1707

Yes can I have 12 box case of prizm football for $10,000 dollars please


LMFAO

I thought the pump money left?

[kyle1707]

I know it’s all gambling ….

Fanatics blowout and Dave adams etc set prices.

But I still can’t figure out how it stays so high

At 10 grand. Your going to lose 7000


Beating a dead horse. Still makes no sense

Ultra modern singles are so low …. It’s wild

[phil]

Originally Posted by kyle1707

Beating a dead horse. Still makes no sense

Breakers are still holding up the stupid market prices by breaking up the stupidity into smaller amounts that are more palatable for the average consumer/gambling addict.

[glassofwater]

Originally Posted by kyle1707

I know it’s all gambling ….

Fanatics blowout and Dave adams etc set prices.

But I still can’t figure out how it stays so high

At 10 grand. Your going to lose 7000


Beating a dead horse. Still makes no sense

Ultra modern singles are so low …. It’s wild

I also like how pumpers are, prizm is not about the autos…lol. Let’s see if the prices of contenders , nt and flawless reflect that…

[JeremyNick]

Originally Posted by glassofwater

I also like how pumpers are, prizm is not about the autos…lol. Let’s see if the prices of contenders , nt and flawless reflect that…

It’s true though.

The draw is not the sticker autos, it’s always been the color.

[oldgoldy97]

Opened two blasters.

There are 100 rookies.

I got 3 in each blaster.

Four of the 6 were duplicates of DTR and Israel Iwhatever from NYJ.

Hit a Q Johnson rookie jersey.

Save your money.

Donruss is a much better buy.

[Archangel1775]

Originally Posted by glassofwater

I also like how pumpers are, prizm is not about the autos…lol. Let’s see if the prices of contenders , nt and flawless reflect that…

Prizm isn't about the autos.....they add value though. Not sure what the other releases have to do with anything. Contenders is about the Autos. NT is about RPA's/Shields. Flawless is about, kind of in its own world with different subsets being important. The NFL Shields do stand out though.

[IronCladLou]

Originally Posted by abovethesink

Rookie QBs on the parallels, including the silver. Silver Purdy's from last year raw go for like $250. I haven't followed the CJ market and wouldn't guess it is that high, but the ceiling is probably like 4-5x box price unless you somehow hit more than one in the same box.

So not looking good.

[majestik101]

$850?? That's the going rate on a hobby box?

This stuff has no business being more than $250.

And yet... It will sell out. SMH

[oplum29]

and of course, CardCollector 2 busts out a red shimmer rookie #'d to 25 of Anthony Richardson.

if i had bought that box, i would have gotten a red shimmer of Big Dom #'d to 25.