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Old 10-19-2023, 07:46 PM   #226
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I'm pretty sure they were referring to a Young Gun with an action shot, not some shitty half-assed photoshoot card just to shoehorn Bedard into S1.
Negative. I even said an Easter Egg and there was much denial that it would happen.
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Old 10-19-2023, 08:45 PM   #227
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Out of curiosity when did UD start having to push back rookies? I haven’t collected hockey really since Matthews rookie year but I remember as far back as 05-06 you almost always had the top pick in series 1 and another big name saved for series 2. Why the change?
UD usually included top draft picks in series one and it was the best series. The last two years, UD has been including the best draft picks in series 2. I remember Jack Hughes, Elias Petterson, and a few players in 18-19 Series One.
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Old 10-19-2023, 11:48 PM   #228
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UD usually included top draft picks in series one and it was the best series. The last two years, UD has been including the best draft picks in series 2. I remember Jack Hughes, Elias Petterson, and a few players in 18-19 Series One.
Hughes is in 19-20 S1. I bought a lot of this over the past year or so to hold sealed just because it looks like he's starting to become the player he was expected to be and he's still very young and prices were not all that high.
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Old 10-19-2023, 11:54 PM   #229
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Hughes is in 19-20 S1. I bought a lot of this over the past year or so to hold sealed just because it looks like he's starting to become the player he was expected to be and he's still very young and prices were not all that high.
I think the 19/20 products with both Hughes and Makar are very good long term holds.
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Old 10-20-2023, 12:02 AM   #230
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I think the 19/20 products with both Hughes and Makar are very good long term holds.
I think so too. I know S2 was more short-printed and has the Makar YG and Hughes Canvas YG but it's also priced a lot higher compared to S1 and with S1 you get the Hughes YG and also still get the Makar Canvas YG. So, I went heavy on S1. You can still get the retail boxes under $70 which seems pretty cheap to me. I bought a lot of hobby when it was closer to $100 but that is closer to $130s/$140s now I think, which may still not be all that expensive if you believe in Hughes especially LT.

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Old 10-20-2023, 09:00 AM   #231
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The 1/1 Luke Hughes is on ebay for 100K lol
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Old 10-20-2023, 09:34 AM   #232
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UD usually included top draft picks in series one and it was the best series. The last two years, UD has been including the best draft picks in series 2. I remember Jack Hughes, Elias Petterson, and a few players in 18-19 Series One.
That was pre-Covid when they printed domestically. Now they’re printing flagship in Italy and having to get everything shipped overseas and put through customs and all that nonsense. The lead time isn’t anywhere near what it used to be.
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Old 10-20-2023, 10:32 AM   #233
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shipping from Italy. No wonder the QC is terrible
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Old 10-20-2023, 12:23 PM   #234
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is it reasonable to say 23-24 Series 1 absolutely sucks?
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Old 10-20-2023, 06:48 PM   #235
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I can give a general review on pull rates so far. I've got a store. Sold a bunch of boxes but allocation was real heavy so we've been ripping most of the day. We've been through about 45 boxes.

-No Bedard SPs so far in 3 cases and some change. Also no Fanimations or Deons
-1 auto(vet)
-2 UD Exclusive(Vets)
-1 Outburst Red /25(Young Guns)
-4 #'d 200X85 inserts
-2 #'d 10 Population Count, 2 #'d 500, 4 #'d 1000
-6 or 7 Delux #'d 250(2 Young Guns)
-2 Clear Cut Young Guns
-6 Acetate Vet Base
-4 Black/White Canvas Young Guns
-3 Red Die Cut SP Inserts
-1 or 2 gold SP of certain inserts(stat fillers and one other I cant remember)
-Havent checked base for the Swag variations on the base yet.
Handful of Canvas Young Guns
Still have incomplete insert sets(200x85, Dazzlers)
-4 Complete Young Gun Sets
-Decent amount of Outburst Silver Young Guns(Outburst Silvers average 1 per box)

Overall we are having fun. We have another case to rip so are hoping to put together a complete base/YG/Insert set. Definitely am having more fun ripping this years with the new configuration as opposed to last years. Value wise we are going to be fine ripping at cost. But I don't know if we would have ripped as much if it was 140/box.
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Old 10-20-2023, 06:56 PM   #236
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My LCS busted 3 cases

They ended up with 2 Bedards and the Henry Thrun Young Gun 1/1 gold.

So basically one really nice hit per case.

Only good Kraken for me out of 3 cases was a Beniers Honor Roll Gold Rainbow 25/25
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Old 10-21-2023, 12:37 AM   #237
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If fairly easy to pull, and not a true Easter Egg, probably not going to be enough to save S1.
Easter Egg is a term that means not announced on the checklist or sell sheet. It has nothing to do with rarity.
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Old 10-21-2023, 12:54 AM   #238
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I can give a general review on pull rates so far. I've got a store. Sold a bunch of boxes but allocation was real heavy so we've been ripping most of the day. We've been through about 45 boxes.

-No Bedard SPs so far in 3 cases and some change. Also no Fanimations or Deons
-1 auto(vet)
-2 UD Exclusive(Vets)
-1 Outburst Red /25(Young Guns)
-4 #'d 200X85 inserts
-2 #'d 10 Population Count, 2 #'d 500, 4 #'d 1000
-6 or 7 Delux #'d 250(2 Young Guns)
-2 Clear Cut Young Guns
-6 Acetate Vet Base
-4 Black/White Canvas Young Guns
-3 Red Die Cut SP Inserts
-1 or 2 gold SP of certain inserts(stat fillers and one other I cant remember)
-Havent checked base for the Swag variations on the base yet.
Handful of Canvas Young Guns
Still have incomplete insert sets(200x85, Dazzlers)
-4 Complete Young Gun Sets
-Decent amount of Outburst Silver Young Guns(Outburst Silvers average 1 per box)

Overall we are having fun. We have another case to rip so are hoping to put together a complete base/YG/Insert set. Definitely am having more fun ripping this years with the new configuration as opposed to last years. Value wise we are going to be fine ripping at cost. But I don't know if we would have ripped as much if it was 140/box.
This rip still looks terrible at cost if you only hit the wrong players. Hopefully you had some good players in your hits.
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Old 10-21-2023, 01:00 AM   #239
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is it reasonable to say 23-24 Series 1 absolutely sucks?
It appears UD1 might suck based from the YG checklists before the season started. But until players start playing, you never know how this products will perform next few years.
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Old 10-21-2023, 08:25 AM   #240
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is it reasonable to say 23-24 Series 1 absolutely sucks?
We said the same thing about 14-15 UDS2
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Old 10-21-2023, 10:58 AM   #241
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Since Bedard’s Draft Card is out / before his YG card…. and YG is usually the UD Key Card, but Draft is 1st to be out and is a SSP… which one will likely be his most desirable UD card for this Year??
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Old 10-21-2023, 11:19 AM   #242
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Since Bedard’s Draft Card is out / before his YG card…. and YG is usually the UD Key Card, but Draft is 1st to be out and is a SSP… which one will likely be his most desirable UD card for this Year??
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Old 10-21-2023, 11:37 AM   #243
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This Draft Pick card is just a novelty. The YG will still smoke it.

McDavid’s Draft Pick card sells for like $200.
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Old 10-21-2023, 11:39 AM   #244
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Negative. I even said an Easter Egg and there was much denial that it would happen.
lol what?

Proof any of this happened?

you live in some imaginary world?
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Old 10-21-2023, 04:09 PM   #245
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This Draft Pick card is just a novelty. The YG will still smoke it.

McDavid’s Draft Pick card sells for like $200.
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Old 10-21-2023, 07:17 PM   #246
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lol what?

Proof any of this happened?

you live in some imaginary world?
You want to search all the threads, be my guest.
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Old 10-22-2023, 04:35 AM   #247
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You want to search all the threads, be my guest.
I did before posting.

Not only was there not any outrage at you saying even an easter egg, but you didn't even say anything of the sort to begin with.

Literally all fabricated by you lol. Seek serious help.
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Old 10-24-2023, 01:28 PM   #248
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401games in Canada has Series 2 boxes back up for preorder at $269.99 a box. lmaoooo
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Old 10-24-2023, 02:43 PM   #249
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401games in Canada has Series 2 boxes back up for preorder at $269.99 a box. lmaoooo
I'm assuming that's CA? Which would equate to $200 US...
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Old 10-24-2023, 03:33 PM   #250
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With the multiple 1/1s emerging in Series 1...what does UD do for Series 2?

Buyback? Ear muffs?

Does it even matter? Do hockey collectors need to be assured of anything?

There is so much dumb "hobby hype" surrounding Bedard, non-hockey collectors will be picking up boxes.

Does UD have any incentive to get it right?
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