Bauer Update - Page 57

discostu · 10-02-2023, 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by base set

It seems unlikely he will get an MLB contract in 2024, I was thinking. But it’s a game of numbers, and nevertheless there is just one part of the story I didn’t see in the thread yet, so I went with the Sports Illustrated article in hopes of finding this out:

“Instead, Bauer inked a one-year deal with Yokohama DeNA BayStars in Nippon Professional Baseball, where he went 11-4 with a 2.59 ERA this season.”

Instead, though the SI article came through for me in that regard, it left me with another unresolved question when it reported that Bauer never had to pay anything to his accuser - but she got $300,000 from her insurance company. So now I’m left wondering - what kind of insurance policy was that?

It's like a Bonus Bet on on a table game like Let It Ride, "Punched below the belt by a Major Leaguer" pays out at 300,000:1. Looks like she only put down a $1 chip.

fabiani12333 · 10-03-2023, 12:31 AM

Bauer was accused by multiple women of similar behavior. Yeah, the San Diego accuser might be messed up in the head and not credible. But MLB suspended Bauer for violating the domestic violence and sexual assault policy and an independent arbitrator upheld it. MLB and the arbitrator had access to more information and evidence than we do, including reported video evidence.

It's just a sleight of a hand by Bauer to have you focus on the one accuser, while ignoring the other ones. He wants you to feel sympathetic towards him. He wants you to think he was a victim of cancel culture; that it was all just a big misunderstanding.

That said, he served his time and is allowed to continue his career. If an MLB team thinks he could help them win games, who am I to say otherwise?

dodgerfanjohn · 10-03-2023, 12:52 AM

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Originally Posted by fabiani12333

It's just a sleight of a hand by Bauer to have you focus on the one accuser, while ignoring the other ones. He wants you to feel sympathetic towards him. He wants you to think he was a victim of cancel culture; that it was all just a big misunderstanding.

Your other statements were largely speculation but your take here is likely entirely false.

No attorney in their right mind is going to let him talk about the other potential incidents that could still result in a civil suit.

I made this argument in the original threads and of course like my other arguments, I was bashed for it. But I’m not wrong.

Stringmusic · 10-03-2023, 06:18 AM

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Originally Posted by rfgilles

He still punched women no?

I don’t know, I haven’t really kept up with this story closely, but if we want to help stop women from falsely accusing men off this stuff we need to start charging them with whatever the man would have gotten had the allegations been true. At least make them think twice about doing it, as it is they just get to go on about their lives as of nothing happened.

awz50 · 10-03-2023, 08:21 AM

Makes me incredibly sad that this happened because it hurts actual victims.

Hope he sues mlb though

awz50 · 10-03-2023, 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Scottish Punk

The worst thing about this is that it gives all the future harassers cover. It is already difficult for women to come forward. If I was a female who was abused, I would be furious with the accuser.

This. This. This.

DarcyWinston · 10-03-2023, 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by awz50

This. This. This.

Why? The real problem is the vast majority of the time when a woman makes a false accusation there aren’t any consequences. So until then, I’m going with innocent until proven guilty. Especially with the garbage media jumping to the same conclusion every time (man guilty until proven innocent).

awz50 · 10-03-2023, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by DarcyWinston

Why? The real problem is the vast majority of the time when a woman makes a false accusation there aren’t any consequences. So until then, I’m going with innocent until proven guilty. Especially with the garbage media jumping to the same conclusion every time (man guilty until proven innocent).

Well that as well, I'm just talking about for woman people making false accusations just hurt the people with real story's. It's a mess for both sides

JRX · 10-03-2023, 10:17 AM

Maybe the Braves will sign him, they don't have any issues with guys hitting women.

Noles939913 · 10-03-2023, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by JRX

Maybe the Braves will sign him, they don't have any issues with guys hitting women.

Charges were withdrawn due to lack of evidence.

theredmenace · 10-03-2023, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Noles939913

Charges were withdrawn due to lack of evidence.

Bauer admitted (in a phone call with Pasadena PD) to striking her buttocks while she was unconscious

Noles939913 · 10-03-2023, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by theredmenace

Bauer admitted (in a phone call with Pasadena PD) to striking her buttocks while she was unconscious

Has Bauer ever played for the Braves? I’m obviously not talking about Trevor Bauer.

discostu · 10-03-2023, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by JRX

Maybe the Braves will sign him, they don't have any issues with guys hitting women.

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Originally Posted by Noles939913

Charges were withdrawn due to lack of evidence.

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Originally Posted by Noles939913

Has Bauer ever played for the Braves? I’m obviously not talking about Trevor Bauer.

Are you referring to Bobby Cox or Marcel Ozuna?

Ozuna's charges were dropped after he completed a few requirements set forth by the court...community service, anger management and a DV course.

Bobby Cox had charges dropped after he and his wife claimed it all to be a misunderstanding, including the seemingly countless previous instances she told officers upon his arrest where she displayed evidence of abuse.

Noles939913 · 10-03-2023, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by discostu

Are you referring to Bobby Cox or Marcel Ozuna?

Ozuna's charges were dropped after he completed a few requirements set forth by the court...community service, anger management and a DV course.

Bobby Cox had charges dropped after he and his wife claimed it all to be a misunderstanding, including the seemingly countless previous instances she told officers upon his arrest where she displayed evidence of abuse.

I’m aware of this. The fact is neither was convicted.

“On May 29, 2021, Ozuna was arrested and charged with aggravated assault by strangulation and battery after Sandy Springs Police claimed to witness him grabbing his wife by the neck and throwing her against a wall.[42][43] The charges were later withdrawn after a review by the Fulton County District Attorney’s Office which concluded the charges didn’t agree with the video evidence. This resulted in Ozuna receiving a 20-game suspension which he served retroactively during the 2021 season.[44] This followed another incident that occurred almost a year prior when Guzman was arrested on her own domestic battery charge against her husband, hitting him with a soap dish which caused a small laceration on his face.[45]

JRX · 10-03-2023, 06:01 PM

So what did happen in the Ozuna incident?

rms13 · 10-03-2023, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by fabiani12333

Bauer was accused by multiple women of similar behavior. Yeah, the San Diego accuser might be messed up in the head and not credible. But MLB suspended Bauer for violating the domestic violence and sexual assault policy and an independent arbitrator upheld it. MLB and the arbitrator had access to more information and evidence than we do, including reported video evidence.

It's just a sleight of a hand by Bauer to have you focus on the one accuser, while ignoring the other ones. He wants you to feel sympathetic towards him. He wants you to think he was a victim of cancel culture; that it was all just a big misunderstanding.

That said, he served his time and is allowed to continue his career. If an MLB team thinks he could help them win games, who am I to say otherwise?

Accused. I wonder how many people with $51 million get accused of things all the time? I watched Bauer's video on X talking about his side and posting screenshots of all her texts to her friends. Seems like a premeditated extortion scam to me. As he said he's never been arrested or convicted of any crimes and all court cases are settled. Legal system played out and decided he did nothing wrong. If other accusers had any real evidence why hasn't anyone pressed chargers against him? I do think he generally comes across as a d-bag but that's not a crime

cholodolo · 10-03-2023, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by fabiani12333

Bauer was accused by multiple women of similar behavior. Yeah, the San Diego accuser might be messed up in the head and not credible. But MLB suspended Bauer for violating the domestic violence and sexual assault policy and an independent arbitrator upheld it. MLB and the arbitrator had access to more information and evidence than we do, including reported video evidence.

It's just a sleight of a hand by Bauer to have you focus on the one accuser, while ignoring the other ones. He wants you to feel sympathetic towards him. He wants you to think he was a victim of cancel culture; that it was all just a big misunderstanding.

That said, he served his time and is allowed to continue his career. If an MLB team thinks he could help them win games, who am I to say otherwise?

Firm believer in the legitimacy of Kangaroo Courts...noted.

theredmenace · 10-03-2023, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by cholodolo

Firm believer in the legitimacy of Kangaroo Courts...noted.

Settle down snowflake

discostu · 10-03-2023, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Noles939913

I’m aware of this. The fact is neither was convicted.

“On May 29, 2021, Ozuna was arrested and charged with aggravated assault by strangulation and battery after Sandy Springs Police claimed to witness him grabbing his wife by the neck and throwing her against a wall.[42][43] The charges were later withdrawn after a review by the Fulton County District Attorney’s Office which concluded the charges didn’t agree with the video evidence. This resulted in Ozuna receiving a 20-game suspension which he served retroactively during the 2021 season.[44] This followed another incident that occurred almost a year prior when Guzman was arrested on her own domestic battery charge against her husband, hitting him with a soap dish which caused a small laceration on his face.[45]

Wikipedia isn't the best source here...as Ozuna went through a pretrial process to drop the charges...not the result of some further review of the video.

And yes, his wife is an angel as well.

Regardless, you are correct that neither Ozuna nor Cox were convicted. Much like the majority of DV cases, these are tough cases to convict.

Of course, you stated "Charges were withdrawn due to lack of evidence," in some non specific instance...neither Cox nor Ozuna had charges withdrawn due to a lack of evidence.

Allen Ginter 99 · 10-03-2023, 08:59 PM

Lindsey hill needs to be in prison !

This case is sickening

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Noles939913 · 10-03-2023, 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by discostu

Wikipedia isn't the best source here...as Ozuna went through a pretrial process to drop the charges...not the result of some further review of the video.

And yes, his wife is an angel as well.

Regardless, you are correct that neither Ozuna nor Cox were convicted. Much like the majority of DV cases, these are tough cases to convict.

Of course, you stated "Charges were withdrawn due to lack of evidence," in some non specific instance...neither Cox nor Ozuna had charges withdrawn due to a lack of evidence.

Every single MLB team has either employed someone who’s either been convicted or accused of domestic violence. Acting like the Braves are some outlier who employ terrible people is disingenuous and reeks of jealousy.

theredmenace · 10-03-2023, 09:52 PM

"jealousy", lol what are 12

Noles939913 · 10-03-2023, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by theredmenace

"jealousy", lol what are 12

What are 12 what?

NHRonin · 10-04-2023, 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Allen Ginter 99

Lindsey hill needs to be in prison !

This case is sickening

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She really should. The text message evidence is extremely damning. She set out to blackmail him from the start and likely cost him millions.

He also has a case against Manfred and MLB. There was no guilty until proven innocent and he lost 2 full seasons over this. He should sue for loss salary and damages.

bub838 · 10-04-2023, 08:08 AM

I haven't really followed this that closely, but from what I can tell is the Pasadena case is settled and the woman was trying to extort Bauer.

Why isn't Bauer suing MLB for the lost season/wages? Has the players union stepped up for him? Do we think he's coming back to the MLB?

I read there's other woman with allegations, are those credible and is he fighting them off?

10-03-2023, 12:31 AM	#1402
fabiani12333 Member Join Date: Jan 2017 Posts: 13,626	Bauer was accused by multiple women of similar behavior. Yeah, the San Diego accuser might be messed up in the head and not credible. But MLB suspended Bauer for violating the domestic violence and sexual assault policy and an independent arbitrator upheld it. MLB and the arbitrator had access to more information and evidence than we do, including reported video evidence. It's just a sleight of a hand by Bauer to have you focus on the one accuser, while ignoring the other ones. He wants you to feel sympathetic towards him. He wants you to think he was a victim of cancel culture; that it was all just a big misunderstanding. That said, he served his time and is allowed to continue his career. If an MLB team thinks he could help them win games, who am I to say otherwise? Last edited by blowoutcards4; 10-05-2023 at 04:01 PM. Reason: allowed to have an opinion

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awz50 Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: New Hampshire>>>Arizona>>>>Florida Posts: 33,604 awz50	Makes me incredibly sad that this happened because it hurts actual victims. Hope he sues mlb though __________________ Collecting Baseball Hof Autographs 249/352 Blowouts Official Red Sox face of the franchise Eduardo Rodriguez Super Collector

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JRX Member Join Date: May 2020 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 16,281	Maybe the Braves will sign him, they don't have any issues with guys hitting women.

10-03-2023, 06:01 PM	#1415
JRX Member Join Date: May 2020 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 16,281	So what did happen in the Ozuna incident?

10-03-2023, 08:59 PM	#1420
Allen Ginter 99 Member Join Date: Aug 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 620 Eclipsegt911	Lindsey hill needs to be in prison ! This case is sickening Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

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theredmenace Member Join Date: Jul 2023 Posts: 876	"jealousy", lol what are 12

10-04-2023, 08:08 AM	#1425
bub838 Member Join Date: Mar 2022 Posts: 5,447	I haven't really followed this that closely, but from what I can tell is the Pasadena case is settled and the woman was trying to extort Bauer. Why isn't Bauer suing MLB for the lost season/wages? Has the players union stepped up for him? Do we think he's coming back to the MLB? I read there's other woman with allegations, are those credible and is he fighting them off?