WTH is going on in Chicago? - Page 3

jplarson · 09-21-2023, 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by JeremyNick

Maybe Grid is also an FBI agent and is busy with Peanut preparing for the raid on Halas Hall.

I can neither confirm or deny this

I do know Tillman was at the Bears rookie camp in May. That could constitute an FBI raid

erock28 · 09-21-2023, 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by PokeyAndG

Bears gonna bears. Is there a worst run football franchise than the Bears and Jets? seems like they are in constant rebuild mode.

*Jimmy Haslam has entered the chat*

Soxrule111 · 09-21-2023, 09:30 AM

Pretty sure the DC wasnt at the game on Sunday either. It popped up like Saturday night that something "Came up" and he wouldnt be able to coach Sunday.

Also, Fields sucks not surprised by his blame everyone else attitude.

And Chicago sucks as a City.

For as bad as the White Sox season has been on and off the field, I cant believe the Bears are trying to out #@#@#@#@ them. Its such a joke. Hoping for a 48-20 Chiefs win this weekend.

JeremyNick · 09-21-2023, 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Soxrule111

Pretty sure the DC wasnt at the game on Sunday either. It popped up like Saturday night that something "Came up" and he wouldnt be able to coach Sunday.

Also, Fields sucks not surprised by his blame everyone else attitude.

And Chicago sucks as a City.

For as bad as the White Sox season has been on and off the field, I cant believe the Bears are trying to out #@#@#@#@ them. Its such a joke. Hoping for a 48-20 Chiefs win this weekend.

#GridBait

Grid · 09-21-2023, 09:58 AM

Sorry, I wasn't online yesterday to chime in. But it looks like this thread derailed as quickly as it was posted.

There has been zero confirmation that Alan Williams's house (Bears DC) was raided. His lawyer already stated those reports were both untrue and unfounded.

It has already been debunked, that Halas Hall (Bears HQ) was raided as well. The confirmed confirmed as much almost immediately.

Justin Fields already added clarity, after the media spun his comments about "Robotic Play". He said he wasn't playing "his" game out there. He was going through all the things that the coaches were telling him what to do and look for. And that was slowing his down. Now, he is going to play "his" game, the way he knows he can.

After the media spun that, Fields immediately said the below.

"You guys' jobs are to get clicks. So, it's like, take my quote out of context and we can just say that," Fields said. "If you paint the picture on the inside out, y'all are trying to split us up.

"I'm not blaming anything on the coaches, I'm never going to blame anything on the coaches. I'm never going to blame anything on my teammates. Whatever happens in the game, I will take all the blame. I don't care if it's a dropped pass, it should have been a (better) pass. Put it on me. Never when you hear anything come out of my mouth to where I will blame it on somebody else in this organization, my teammates, never will you hear that. I just want to clear that up.

To be clear, Alan Williams seems to have had a nervous breakdown, with all the heat on him for the Bears bad play on his side of the ball. Him quitting saves the team from firing him. Any noise about the FBI or any criminal activity, seems to be a nothingburger right now.

And Fields has already said he was quoted out of context, and knows the media is trying to make something out of nothing.

The Bears are playing horribly for the past few years. No denying that. But this entire thread is worthless, and seems to have died out on its own without Grid commenting for an entire day!

JeremyNick · 09-21-2023, 10:02 AM

This thread just got salty.

SearchPatrol · 09-21-2023, 11:07 AM

He was not "quoted out of context". HE SAID WHAT HE SAID.

Do reporters ask "got you" questions, of course they do. But he said - it could be the coaches. If he has a problem with the play calling, deal with it in house. Now he's just upset for being called out. He got flustered and it showed. He has not played well enough to be given the benefit of the doubt. I think he has lost the last 10 starts he's made. He needs to turn it around Real Fast.

Phil Ligget · 09-21-2023, 11:10 AM

yeah I don't get all this "out of context" stuff either. sounds pretty straight forward to me.

49erRCCollector · 09-21-2023, 11:12 AM

Grid is right about the Williams stuff. Although I do find it odd how selectively things are being refuted. It’s all so clumsy and doing no favors to the Bears or Williams.

As far as Fields? He said what he said. It’s fine, sometimes young guys mess up. But he said what he said.

Bad day for the franchise and real bad day for the Bears PR people.

JRX · 09-21-2023, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Phil Ligget

yeah I don't get all this "out of context" stuff either. sounds pretty straight forward to me.

Normally you ask a follow up question to have him clarify. I don't know if they did that or not, but modern journalism is incentivized to not do that once they get something that they can run with and get clicks.

49erRCCollector · 09-21-2023, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by JRX

Normally you ask a follow up question to have him clarify. I don't know if they did that or not, but modern journalism is incentivized to not do that once they get something that they can run with and get clicks.

The journalists did try to ask follow up questions about a discussion with coaches and Fields declined to share.

hairysasquatch · 09-21-2023, 11:43 AM

What a meltdown!

49erRCCollector · 09-21-2023, 12:01 PM

This could just be irresponsible reporting - and I am not stating as fact, just mentioning: Pat McAfee on his show today is saying HIS sources confirm that Williams house was raided.

Take everything with a huge grain of salt. Seems like other sources could have (would have) confirmed this quickly yesterday if true.

majestik101 · 09-21-2023, 12:03 PM

Fields after placing the blame on his coaches for his robotic play be like

no10pin · 09-21-2023, 12:05 PM

The Williams thing is beyond bizarre, but sometimes what the team doesn't say is very telling.

The Bears site has an article about Williams resigning. The entire article is this. Doesn't seem very empathetic for someone resigning due to health reasons:

The Bears on Wednesday released the following statement:

"Alan Williams submitted his resignation as the team's defensive coordinator this afternoon."

Boo · 09-21-2023, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by 49erRCCollector

This could just be irresponsible reporting - and I am not stating as fact, just mentioning: Pat McAfee on his show today is saying HIS sources confirm that Williams house was raided.

Take everything with a huge grain of salt. Seems like other sources could have (would have) confirmed this quickly yesterday if true.

I saw that and was going to post it but I didn't want my sterling reputation with Plarson tarnished.

CarmenOhio · 09-21-2023, 12:16 PM

I could be on Fields' side here, depending on how the coaches are coaching him. If they're nitpicking everything, I'm with Fields that they need to let him rely more on his instincts. Something tells me Anthony Richardson isn't being micromanaged and he's using his athleticism freely as a result, for example. I'll say this: Fields didn't have this double clutching problem in college under Ryan Day, who frankly had to teach him how to stay in the pocket in the first place. Maybe the Bears should try to poach Day from OSU before giving up on a talent like Fields, who doesn't look half as bad as some have suggested.

djdevon · 09-21-2023, 12:32 PM

I'm backing up Bustin Fields on this one. I too could have been a great NFL quarterback if it wasn't for those darned coaches!

SearchPatrol · 09-21-2023, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by CarmenOhio

I could be on Fields' side here, depending on how the coaches are coaching him. If they're nitpicking everything, I'm with Fields that they need to let him rely more on his instincts. Something tells me Anthony Richardson isn't being micromanaged and he's using his athleticism freely as a result, for example. I'll say this: Fields didn't have this double clutching problem in college under Ryan Day, who frankly had to teach him how to stay in the pocket in the first place. Maybe the Bears should try to poach Day from OSU before giving up on a talent like Fields, who doesn't look half as bad as some have suggested.

He didn't have that problem at OSU because they had the best of everything. Best On-line, best Receivers best facilities. The NFL isn't OSU vs Rutgers. In the NFL you don't have large windows to throw into, and much time. And what does "nitpicking" even mean? Hey Justin, Your 3rd read was open but you threw into double coverage, why? Is that nitpicking? Finally Anthony Richardson hasn't even played in 2 full NFL games. Let's slow down on having him being Justin's yardstick.

Grid · 09-21-2023, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by SearchPatrol

He was not "quoted out of context". HE SAID WHAT HE SAID.

Do reporters ask "got you" questions, of course they do. But he said - it could be the coaches. If he has a problem with the play calling, deal with it in house. Now he's just upset for being called out. He got flustered and it showed. He has not played well enough to be given the benefit of the doubt. I think he has lost the last 10 starts he's made. He needs to turn it around Real Fast.

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Originally Posted by Phil Ligget

yeah I don't get all this "out of context" stuff either. sounds pretty straight forward to me.

He was absolutely quoted out of context. The headlines read "Justin Fields blames Coaches for his poor play"

In reality, he said he is going to go out there and say F it now. He is going to play football, the way he knows how to play football. And not be so robotic.

When asked why he was being robotic, he talks about coaching and them "doing their job" and how he doesn't "think it's too many coaching voices".

But the headlines ignore that. He knew the point he was making. Too much information slowing down his game. And he is going to play like he always had, and not sit in the pocket and think as long.

"You know, could be coaching, I think," Fields said. "At the end of the day, they are doing their job when they are giving me what to look at, but at the end of the day, I can't be thinking about that when the game comes. I prepare myself throughout the week, and then when the game comes, it's time to play free at that point. Thinking less and playing more."

"I don't think it's too many coaching voices, but I just think when you're fed a lot of information at a point in time and you're trying to think about that info when you're playing, it doesn't let you play like yourself," Fields said.

As long as everyone gets their "news" from Facebook memes and ad supported articles, this will always be a thing.

jplarson · 09-21-2023, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Boo

I saw that and was going to post it but I didn't want my sterling reputation with Plarson tarnished.

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Originally Posted by 49erRCCollector

This could just be irresponsible reporting - and I am not stating as fact, just mentioning: Pat McAfee on his show today is saying HIS sources confirm that Williams house was raided.

Take everything with a huge grain of salt. Seems like other sources could have (would have) confirmed this quickly yesterday if true.

You know, it could well be true. My problem is that facts and accuracy isn't confirmed and the slander and libel thrown at this guy is based on some dufus tweeting in hopes of hitting the lottery on becoming an influencer.

If it comes out that the raid is true and the reasons for it true, he'll be condemned as one should be.

What some were posting reminds me of when TMZ ran stories on Chadwick Boseman being a drug addict because of his weight loss until it came out the guy died from cancer. That's the nerve being struck again.

jplarson · 09-21-2023, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by SearchPatrol

He didn't have that problem at OSU because they had the best of everything. Best On-line, best Receivers best facilities. The NFL isn't OSU vs Rutgers. In the NFL you don't have large windows to throw into, and much time. And what does "nitpicking" even mean? Hey Justin, Your 3rd read was open but you threw into double coverage, why? Is that nitpicking? Finally Anthony Richardson hasn't even played in 2 full NFL games. Let's slow down on having him being Justin's yardstick.

Just post the links from JT O'Sullivan's YouTube breakdowns. Far more insightful and if one didn't like Fields, more enjoyable.

thenwhatjk · 09-21-2023, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Soxrule111

Pretty sure the DC wasnt at the game on Sunday either. It popped up like Saturday night that something "Came up" and he wouldnt be able to coach Sunday.

Also, Fields sucks not surprised by his blame everyone else attitude.

And Chicago sucks as a City.

For as bad as the White Sox season has been on and off the field, I cant believe the Bears are trying to out #@#@#@#@ them. Its such a joke. Hoping for a 48-20 Chiefs win this weekend.

Not all cities can be as cool and cosmopolitan as Dekalb

Grid · 09-21-2023, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by no10pin

The Williams thing is beyond bizarre, but sometimes what the team doesn't say is very telling.

The Bears site has an article about Williams resigning. The entire article is this. Doesn't seem very empathetic for someone resigning due to health reasons:

The Bears on Wednesday released the following statement:

"Alan Williams submitted his resignation as the team's defensive coordinator this afternoon."

Again, even though I posted this earlier. As someone who works with the team and the players. I am hearing he had a mental breakdown. His "health", was his mental health. And I think we can all understand why the team doesn't want to address that. It really isn't there place to do so.

I am not a reporter, and I am not stating anything as fact. That is just what I have heard from a few other people.

Now, maybe he IS in trouble with the Feds as well. No factual reports out, but MAYBE that is true too. And combo that with the pressures of the job, and him being roasted in the media (deservedly so) for doing a bad job calling plays. And combined, the guy just broke. No one knows right now. And it doesn't really matter, as he is officially off the team.

SearchPatrol · 09-21-2023, 01:14 PM

What's the term used now, deflection?
Yes, headlines can be Very deceiving.

But this is about your claim that he was "quoted out of context". As you just posted, he DID put "some" blame on the coaches for not letting him play like himself. That this issue was addressed in public, shows lack of awareness by Justin. So yes, headlines can be deceiving but he wasn't taken out of context.

09-21-2023, 09:30 AM	#53
Soxrule111 Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: DeKalb Posts: 14,884 Soxrule111	Pretty sure the DC wasnt at the game on Sunday either. It popped up like Saturday night that something "Came up" and he wouldnt be able to coach Sunday. Also, Fields sucks not surprised by his blame everyone else attitude. And Chicago sucks as a City. For as bad as the White Sox season has been on and off the field, I cant believe the Bears are trying to out #@#@#@#@ them. Its such a joke. Hoping for a 48-20 Chiefs win this weekend. __________________ Texans Future Super Bowl Champions

09-21-2023, 11:12 AM	#59
49erRCCollector Member Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 12,829	Grid is right about the Williams stuff. Although I do find it odd how selectively things are being refuted. It’s all so clumsy and doing no favors to the Bears or Williams. As far as Fields? He said what he said. It’s fine, sometimes young guys mess up. But he said what he said. Bad day for the franchise and real bad day for the Bears PR people. __________________ Will MASSIVELY overpay for: 2002 Fleer Authentix #180, 181 Derek Smith & Zack Bronson AND 2007 Upper Deck Target Exclusive Rookies Autographs #261 Joe Staley #'d to /5

09-21-2023, 11:43 AM	#62
hairysasquatch Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: In the Woods, Central NY Posts: 36,693	What a meltdown! __________________ I am going signature-free

09-21-2023, 12:01 PM	#63
49erRCCollector Member Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 12,829	This could just be irresponsible reporting - and I am not stating as fact, just mentioning: Pat McAfee on his show today is saying HIS sources confirm that Williams house was raided. Take everything with a huge grain of salt. Seems like other sources could have (would have) confirmed this quickly yesterday if true. __________________ Will MASSIVELY overpay for: 2002 Fleer Authentix #180, 181 Derek Smith & Zack Bronson AND 2007 Upper Deck Target Exclusive Rookies Autographs #261 Joe Staley #'d to /5

09-21-2023, 12:05 PM	#65
no10pin Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Kansas City, MO Posts: 16,926 no10pin no10pin	The Williams thing is beyond bizarre, but sometimes what the team doesn't say is very telling. The Bears site has an article about Williams resigning. The entire article is this. Doesn't seem very empathetic for someone resigning due to health reasons: The Bears on Wednesday released the following statement: "Alan Williams submitted his resignation as the team's defensive coordinator this afternoon." __________________ Always looking for more George Brett stuff. Need more rookies, low numbered inserts/parallels and on-card autos (no Panini).

09-21-2023, 09:58 AM	#55
Grid Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Chicago Posts: 13,296 Gridiron-Gladiators	Sorry, I wasn't online yesterday to chime in. But it looks like this thread derailed as quickly as it was posted. There has been zero confirmation that Alan Williams's house (Bears DC) was raided. His lawyer already stated those reports were both untrue and unfounded. It has already been debunked, that Halas Hall (Bears HQ) was raided as well. The confirmed confirmed as much almost immediately. Justin Fields already added clarity, after the media spun his comments about "Robotic Play". He said he wasn't playing "his" game out there. He was going through all the things that the coaches were telling him what to do and look for. And that was slowing his down. Now, he is going to play "his" game, the way he knows he can. After the media spun that, Fields immediately said the below. "You guys' jobs are to get clicks. So, it's like, take my quote out of context and we can just say that," Fields said. "If you paint the picture on the inside out, y'all are trying to split us up. "I'm not blaming anything on the coaches, I'm never going to blame anything on the coaches. I'm never going to blame anything on my teammates. Whatever happens in the game, I will take all the blame. I don't care if it's a dropped pass, it should have been a (better) pass. Put it on me. Never when you hear anything come out of my mouth to where I will blame it on somebody else in this organization, my teammates, never will you hear that. I just want to clear that up. To be clear, Alan Williams seems to have had a nervous breakdown, with all the heat on him for the Bears bad play on his side of the ball. Him quitting saves the team from firing him. Any noise about the FBI or any criminal activity, seems to be a nothingburger right now. And Fields has already said he was quoted out of context, and knows the media is trying to make something out of nothing. The Bears are playing horribly for the past few years. No denying that. But this entire thread is worthless, and seems to have died out on its own without Grid commenting for an entire day!

09-21-2023, 10:02 AM	#56
JeremyNick Banned Join Date: Jun 2019 Posts: 22,801	This thread just got salty.

09-21-2023, 11:07 AM	#57
SearchPatrol Member Join Date: Sep 2020 Posts: 1,051 AndrewB	He was not "quoted out of context". HE SAID WHAT HE SAID. Do reporters ask "got you" questions, of course they do. But he said - it could be the coaches. If he has a problem with the play calling, deal with it in house. Now he's just upset for being called out. He got flustered and it showed. He has not played well enough to be given the benefit of the doubt. I think he has lost the last 10 starts he's made. He needs to turn it around Real Fast.

09-21-2023, 11:10 AM	#58
Phil Ligget Banned Join Date: Jul 2023 Posts: 206	yeah I don't get all this "out of context" stuff either. sounds pretty straight forward to me.

09-21-2023, 12:03 PM	#64
majestik101 Inactive Account Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Socially Distanced Posts: 45,526 majestik101	Fields after placing the blame on his coaches for his robotic play be like

09-21-2023, 12:16 PM	#67
CarmenOhio Member Join Date: Feb 2023 Posts: 203	I could be on Fields' side here, depending on how the coaches are coaching him. If they're nitpicking everything, I'm with Fields that they need to let him rely more on his instincts. Something tells me Anthony Richardson isn't being micromanaged and he's using his athleticism freely as a result, for example. I'll say this: Fields didn't have this double clutching problem in college under Ryan Day, who frankly had to teach him how to stay in the pocket in the first place. Maybe the Bears should try to poach Day from OSU before giving up on a talent like Fields, who doesn't look half as bad as some have suggested.

09-21-2023, 12:32 PM	#68
djdevon Member Join Date: May 2013 Posts: 1,407 wartimeconsigliari	I'm backing up Bustin Fields on this one. I too could have been a great NFL quarterback if it wasn't for those darned coaches!

09-21-2023, 01:14 PM	#75
SearchPatrol Member Join Date: Sep 2020 Posts: 1,051 AndrewB	What's the term used now, deflection? Yes, headlines can be Very deceiving. But this is about your claim that he was "quoted out of context". As you just posted, he DID put "some" blame on the coaches for not letting him play like himself. That this issue was addressed in public, shows lack of awareness by Justin. So yes, headlines can be deceiving but he wasn't taken out of context.