The Official Luis Robert Thread

[cardozo]

Originally Posted by KhalDrogo

Being critical like blaming the coaching staff for not teaching him more discipline. He’s not 15 years old. He’s a 26 year old with a 5.72 K:BB rate this year, and a 4.71:1 rate for his career. He is who he is. His free swinging nature will lead to big power numbers, but always limit his overall production.

So why is there a coaching staff if they can’t elevate and improve the skills of set player, that being said Robert is a hitter not a walker but laying off certain pitches can definitely be taught. Also, in his past two seasons his strikeouts were significantly lower so I’m assuming we will see those go down next season with the power remaining in tact.

[SaltyCracker]

Originally Posted by SaltyCracker

0-3 w 3Ks tonight. Looking for his 6th Golden Sombero of the year!!

What’s the MLB record for Golden Somberos in a single season?

Who has the single season record?

[cardozo]

Finally something positive, HR #36 .

[KhalDrogo]

Originally Posted by cardozo

Finally something positive, HR #36 .

Paired well with the three strikeouts!

[Badgers0821]

Originally Posted by KhalDrogo

Paired well with the three strikeouts!

3 RBI and 3 Ks, the next Ohtani!

[Seitas]

It’s good to see what Robert can do in a relatively healthy year. Really impressive season. Especially when you consider how much room he has to grow. He can become a better base stealer, he obviously needs to improve his approach, pitch recognition, pitch selection, etc. He can make a lot of gains in those departments. That’s pretty impressive to have that much growth potential after putting up a season with almost 40 bombs and an .850 OPS that includes a poor OBP. With some small gains he can easily be a 7/8 WAR guy. Even if his offense bottoms out and he puts up a sub .300 OBP (which I believe he is capable of) and 20 bombs he’s a useful 2/3 WAR because of the strong D. He may never be a hobby darling again because that variance is so high. But that variance is fine applied to the actual game of baseball. I’ll take a 2/3 WAR floor with an 8 or so WAR ceiling.

[cardozo]

Originally Posted by Seitas

It’s good to see what Robert can do in a relatively healthy year. Really impressive season. Especially when you consider how much room he has to grow. He can become a better base stealer, he obviously needs to improve his approach, pitch recognition, pitch selection, etc. He can make a lot of gains in those departments. That’s pretty impressive to have that much growth potential after putting up a season with almost 40 bombs and an .850 OPS that includes a poor OBP. With some small gains he can easily be a 7/8 WAR guy. Even if his offense bottoms out and he puts up a sub .300 OBP (which I believe he is capable of) and 20 bombs he’s a useful 2/3 WAR because of the strong D. He may never be a hobby darling again because that variance is so high. But that variance is fine applied to the actual game of baseball. I’ll take a 2/3 WAR floor with an 8 or so WAR ceiling.

He was on his way to get a 8 WAR and then September happened. What I’ve read online makes sense, he hasn’t played so many games in a season before plus the work he is done in the outfield which should win him the second gold glove might have caused fatigue, im hoping with the right preparation during the off season and a better team he will make another overall improvement offensively because defensively he has been a menace to opposing teams.

[cardozo]

Originally Posted by KhalDrogo

Paired well with the three strikeouts!

We can read but thank you for pointing that out.

[cardozo]

Originally Posted by Badgers0821

3 RBI and 3 Ks, the next Ohtani!

The Cuban Ohtani, think Robert can pitch?

[KhalDrogo]

Originally Posted by cardozo

We can read but thank you for pointing that out.

You’re welcome. I’m here to provide the same quality of service you provide the Soto thread.

[JaxSportsHub]

Haha plate discipline power hitters in MLB is what is being talked about? What are there 10 total in all of baseball now? The rest of the HR hitters are low average hitters.

LR is young, and plays for a team with no bats around him. Jake Burger is a great example of this (and used since they were teammates).

With White Sox this year, he hit .214
So far in 40+ games with Marlins, he is hitting .305

Coaching matters. Surrounding a power hitter with some other bats matters.

[cardozo]

Exactly, something I posted on X, you probably would also get more runs if the hitting surrounding Robert would be better.

Luis Robert
139 hits, 36 homeruns, 35 doubles

78rbi

José Abreu
117 hits, 16 homeruns, 20 doubles

82rbi

Juan Soto
142 hits, 32 homeruns, 28 doubles

100rbi

Just to put Roberts stats in the right perspective, better team means more RBI’s.

[Badgers0821]

It also doesn’t help that his team hasn’t been playing for anything for the past 2+ months. I have a feeling his numbers would be better if they were in the middle of a playoff race. But for his first full season without injury, I’d say it was a success.

[cardozo]

Originally Posted by Badgers0821

It also doesn’t help that his team hasn’t been playing for anything for the past 2+ months. I have a feeling his numbers would be better if they were in the middle of a playoff race. But for his first full season without injury, I’d say it was a success.

Yeah, there is no real motivation to go above and beyond.

[SaltyCracker]

Originally Posted by cardozo

Exactly, something I posted on X, you probably would also get more runs if the hitting surrounding Robert would be better.

Luis Robert
139 hits, 36 homeruns, 35 doubles

78rbi

José Abreu
117 hits, 16 homeruns, 20 doubles

82rbi

Juan Soto
142 hits, 32 homeruns, 28 doubles

100rbi

Just to put Roberts stats in the right perspective, better team means more RBI’s.

Luis Robert has left 228 players on base. Soto has left 207 on base. That’s your difference and the super high K % (29.1) is the reason. My guess is the K% spiked because of the new balanced schedule introduced this season. Not facing A.L Central pitching as much. I don’t expect much of an improvement going forward.

[Badgers0821]

Originally Posted by SaltyCracker

Luis Robert has left 228 players on base. Soto has left 207 on base. That’s your difference and the super high K % (29.1) is the reason. My guess is the K% spiked because of the new balanced schedule introduced this season. Not facing A.L Central pitching as much. I don’t expect much of an improvement going forward.

I don’t care so much about the K rate, I care more about his inability to hit with RISP. If every year he plays like he did this year but increases his average w/ RISP, I’d be very happy. His ++ defense is also not talked about enough. I haven’t been watching that closely but I’d imagine he’s up in the top 3 for a GG this year.

[cardozo]

Originally Posted by SaltyCracker

Luis Robert has left 228 players on base. Soto has left 207 on base. That’s your difference and the super high K % (29.1) is the reason. My guess is the K% spiked because of the new balanced schedule introduced this season. Not facing A.L Central pitching as much. I don’t expect much of an improvement going forward.

Players left on base is one way to look at it, you can also say why nobody is on base when he hits his doubles or homeruns. Ideally you would need a combination of the two and one step is getting better players or having the players on the roster perform better. His strikeout rate was much lower the past two seasons so your comment regarding no improvement has no real merit.

[cardozo]

Originally Posted by Badgers0821

I don’t care so much about the K rate, I care more about his inability to hit with RISP. If every year he plays like he did this year but increases his average w/ RISP, I’d be very happy. His ++ defense is also not talked about enough. I haven’t been watching that closely but I’d imagine he’s up in the top 3 for a GG this year.

At the moment he is the front runner for AL gold glove for the CF position. I’d be very surprised if someone else ends up winning.

[oddstuff]

Originally Posted by SaltyCracker

Luis Robert has left 228 players on base. Soto has left 207 on base. That’s your difference and the super high K % (29.1) is the reason. My guess is the K% spiked because of the new balanced schedule introduced this season. Not facing A.L Central pitching as much. I don’t expect much of an improvement going forward.

2020: 73 Ks, 202 ABs - 36.1%
2021: 61 Ks, 275 ABs - 22.2%
2022: 77 Ks, 380 ABs - 20.3%
2023: 169 Ks, 532 ABs - 31.8%

Sure does seem a step backwards in K/AB ratio this season as he swings for the fences more and has more ABs. It's not unexpected as most power hitters K/AB ratio increases as hr rate increases. Only the elite power hitters are able to control that as demonstrated by the ability to keep their batting average at a decent rate. Loubob's batting average has dropped from 2021 (.338), 2022 (.284) to this year's current .261.

[Seitas]

Originally Posted by JaxSportsHub

Haha plate discipline power hitters in MLB is what is being talked about? What are there 10 total in all of baseball now? The rest of the HR hitters are low average hitters.

LR is young, and plays for a team with no bats around him. Jake Burger is a great example of this (and used since they were teammates).

With White Sox this year, he hit .214
So far in 40+ games with Marlins, he is hitting .305

Coaching matters. Surrounding a power hitter with some other bats matters.

It’s more about pitch recognition and selection. He needs to swing at better pitches to reach his potential. His offensive profile is extremely exploitable and because of that he is vulnerable to extended slumps. His tools suggest he is a top 10, maybe even top 5 player. I don’t expect that, I’m just expressing what I think he needs to do to reach his potential.

[SupermanBrandon]

Offseason will be telling. Does he put in the work?
Look at Acuna, finished getting his knee right and drastically worked on his K rate...and BOOM! But he was grinding the entire offseason. I follow a lot of MLB young studs on socials. Most are hanging out in a tropical paradise. Acuna was on a dirt field and in the gym the moment the Braves were eliminated.

[Seitas]

Originally Posted by SaltyCracker

Luis Robert has left 228 players on base. Soto has left 207 on base. That’s your difference and the super high K % (29.1) is the reason. My guess is the K% spiked because of the new balanced schedule introduced this season. Not facing A.L Central pitching as much. I don’t expect much of an improvement going forward.

Offensively, the main difference is the .100 point advantage Soto has in OBP. Soto makes a lot less outs. But their numbers are otherwise similar.

[Archangel1775]

I'm curious what the White Sox do with him. Probably build around him for next year. If that doesn't work, maybe they trade him and the end of 2024 to a playoff team if they are not. I see a club option in 2026 and 2027 at $20 million each

[cardozo]

Originally Posted by SupermanBrandon

Offseason will be telling. Does he put in the work?
Look at Acuna, finished getting his knee right and drastically worked on his K rate...and BOOM! But he was grinding the entire offseason. I follow a lot of MLB young studs on socials. Most are hanging out in a tropical paradise. Acuna was on a dirt field and in the gym the moment the Braves were eliminated.

From what I gathered Robert put in a lot of work last off season and the biggest improvement is probably his defense, running better lines, better knowledge of the wall and less chance at injuries.

[cardozo]

Originally Posted by Archangel1775

I'm curious what the White Sox do with him. Probably build around him for next year. If that doesn't work, maybe they trade him and the end of 2024 to a playoff team if they are not. I see a club option in 2026 and 2027 at $20 million each

If next season doesn’t work it might be Robert himself that asks for a trade.