Craig Roehrig: Verona, WI; Ebay: quality*cards, is a CARD DOCTOR (all PSA graded)

[cking]

Great job outing these bums

[corndog]

I was able to tie some of these high-end PSA graded card sales to being Craig Roehrig submissions.
I have been unable to locate any prior sales of the cards pre-submission.

Roehrig is a confirmed card doctor.

I have listed them in numerical submission order:

[Tomi]

I'm starting to think that PSA has holders that internally measure smaller just to accommodate these trimmed cards so they look like they fit properly.

[DragonWagon]

All added https://www.tiffanycards.com/altered-card-database

Interesting to see these in the same sub are DECATIVATED
21096461
21096451 (Not Found)


I will also add these that are in the same sub mentioned above
1952 Bobby Avila 257 Topps PSA 8 cert# 21096461


1952 Joe Haynes 145 Topps PSA 9 cert# 21096459


1952 Pete Castiglione 260 Topps PSA 8 cert# 21096457

1952 Jim Wilson 276 Topps PSA 8 cert# 21096456


1952 Bob Feller 88 Topps PSA 8 cert# 21096455

[corndog]

PSA 6.5 to PSA 7.5

PSA Cert #42130011

1953 Topps Jackie Robinson #1

PSA Set Registry: private

Value gain of $21,278.60

This card was purchased by masked VCP ID c***1 (Craig Roehrig) from Ebay seller davewearsredsox as a PSA 6 for $775.00 on February 13, 2018.

Same card was sold by Memory Lane Auctions as a PSA 7.5 for $22,053.60 on September 10, 2022.

Yellow circles are print, fiber, or chipping identifiers.
Red boxes identify rebuilt (for lack of better term) upper right corner, lower right corner and
poosible black ink added (could be scuffs on the plastic).



Different angle of the upper right corner from the same seller images:

[ken161]

Unbelievable that a repaired corner like that on such a high-value card as the 53 Robinson would make it by the graders. Wouldn't that stick out like a sore thumb?!

I've been of the opinion since this scandal broke a few years ago that incompetence on the part of TPGers and the skill of card doctors were mainly responsible for all these altered cards being graded. But it's hard to imagine that some sort of backroom deal wasn't involved here.

[MoreToppsPlease]

Originally Posted by DragonWagon

All added https://www.tiffanycards.com/altered-card-database

Do you know if anyone’s used your db to determine the likelihood a particular card, set and/or grade has been altered yet

[Bruins1993]

Originally Posted by ken161

But it's hard to imagine that some sort of backroom deal wasn't involved here.

In the past there was the PSA in Las Vegas invite only dealer and grader coaching

[corndog]

This Roehrig altered card sold for the first time six days ago.
It is from the same PSA submission as the above 1953 Jackie Robinson.
$50,000 in profit from altering two cards.

PSA 5 to PSA 95

PSA Cert #42130023

1953 Topps Monte Irvin #62

PSA Set Registry: nothing yet - it just sold

Value gain of $30,719.00

This card was purchased by masked VCP ID c***1 (Craig Roehrig) from Ebay seller probstein123 as a PSA 5 for $49.00 on April 19, 2018.

Same card was sold by Memory Lane Auctions as a PSA 9 for $30,768.00 on September 09, 2023.

Yellow circles are print, fiber, or chipping identifiers.
Red box identifies trimmed bottom edge and repaired bent corner.
No back image provided with purchase listing.
Unique rough cut edges are a 100% match.










Purchase:



Sale:

[Rooftop]

I buy a card, doctor it up, and send it to a 3rd party person to submit to PSA.

3rd party receives card from PSA and auctions it off.

3rd party send me my money.

What's the crime in that?

[texmrsport]

Grader messed up big time. You don't have a rough cut on 90% of the side of the card. The sharp last 10% should have been a huge red flag.

[CaptSpaulding]

Craig still has the touch and the connections, apparently, in the grading room. I would love to trash JP for taking the consignments from Craig but truth is there might only be 1 auction house and 1 eBay consignment seller who would turn Craig away. JP used to run a lot of Moser's stuff. He might still.

If all auction houses turned away known card doctor's consignments, Lot 1 for the next REA or HA would be a 1957 Mantle PSA 6. We can be pissed off at the dudes cutting up cards but if TPG really did their jobs those cards would be in Auth holders every time. I will say this again...they absolutely have the experience and knowledge to catch most of this stuff. Reason cards like this are getting through is because TPG are allowing them to.

[pspa123]

Originally Posted by CaptSpaulding

Craig still has the touch and the connections, apparently, in the grading room. I would love to trash JP for taking the consignments from Craig but truth is there might only be 1 auction house and 1 eBay consignment seller who would turn Craig away. JP used to run a lot of Moser's stuff. He might still.

If all auction houses turned away known card doctor's consignments, Lot 1 for the next REA or HA would be a 1957 Mantle PSA 6. We can be pissed off at the dudes cutting up cards but if TPG really did their jobs those cards would be in Auth holders every time. I will say this again...they absolutely have the experience and knowledge to catch most of this stuff. Reason cards like this are getting through is because TPG are allowing them to.

Yes, the facilitators are just as big a part of the problem as the doctors. As I like to say, the unholy alliance among doctors, TPGs, and AHs.

[Bruins1993]

Originally Posted by corndog

This Roehrig altered card sold for the first time six days ago.

Any idea what we would see under a black light with this card? re-coloring on bend? repaired corner?

[pspa123]

You might think before putting the card in a 9 holder PSA used one?

[CaptSpaulding]

Originally Posted by pspa123

You might think before putting the card in a 9 holder PSA used one?

I catch recolored cards with a halogen light. I think it is a misconception to many that authentication is hard to do and to do it right you need time and tools. If it is a T206 Wagner...ok take your time but 99% of vintage can be done with a halogen light by anyone who has handled cards as their career. Grading is subjective but all the rest is not. I have looked at millions of cards since I got into the business. I don't think much gets past me. This is why I say it is more a choice of the grading services that they holder BS cards like this.

[vintg]

Originally Posted by pip

Craig Roehrig was outed many years ago on the Collectors Universe forums, but at the time it seemed like conjucture as there was no hard proof. The letter from the "PSA Insider" names Rick Changie, one of Roehrig's long-time confidants and business partners, as a card doctor as well, so this is not entirely surprising. Card doctors, like wild dogs, often travel in packs.

It has been rumored for many years that Roehrig altered cards and, like TripleSSS, performed some of the most advanced work. It is also known that he has had a close relationship with some of PSA's graders. His PSA 10 1952 Topps Mantle, for instance, was initially in a PSA 9 holder and may have had some "work" done to it.

Great work, corndog. Yet another PSA recommended card doctor has been caught.

i know the above post was from a couple of years ago, BUT, i talked to a long-time nw indiana dealer (who sells raw) this morning at a show who told me he was WITH ROEHRIG when the '52 mantle was bought RAW.

he said it was gorgeous.

maybe he cracked out the 9 (after submitting) and re-submitted it ???

my dealer friend is a stand up guy, and he is NOT friends with roehrig, and i think roehrig is a huge piece of crap/scum for alterations, but the story itself
is pretty cool.

only 1 of 3 '52 mantle's psa 10. wow.

i'm certain if i pressed further, i could get location and timeframe, but, i believe he mentioned a price of approx. 35k at the time.

i found the backstory fascinating.

[auburn35]

Nice work, Corndog. Thanks for keeping up on these altered cards.

If you haven't already done so, this PSA 9 1953 Topps Clem Labine might also be worth checking out. Sold in the same auction and based on the cert, appears to be from the same submission as the Jackie and Monte.

https://memorylaneinc.com/site/bids/...e?itemid=78558

[MoreToppsPlease]

Originally Posted by pspa123

Yes, the facilitators are just as big a part of the problem as the doctors. As I like to say, the unholy alliance among doctors, TPGs, and AHs.

Of course this arrangement has spanned well beyond slabs and altered cards for quite some time. Naturally many of these people have known each other and colluded for decades.

All those “invested” in this, of which there are clearly many, won’t say anything and/or actively deny it are accomplices themselves. It’s a Ponzi scheme house of cards waiting to fold wrapped into one.

[corndog]

As auburn35 mentioned a couple of posts up, this Labine PSA 9 was also sold in the Memory Lane auction the same day as the other two and it is also a Roehrig submission to PSA.
I did find the earlier purchase by Roehrig when it was a PSA 7, but was unable to see any changes due to the not so good image.
It is 100% the same card in both a 7 and 9 since the chipping at the bottom is a match.

$31,000.00+ profit from the very likely alteration of the 7.

PSA Cert # 42130009

[CaptSpaulding]

Also from the same sub, https://www.psacard.com/cert/42130006 Pop 10 #28 Pellagrini PSA 9 which sold May 2022 in another Memory Lane auction

Craig must be sitting on these from the same sub.

https://www.psacard.com/cert/42130008 Pop 2 #130 Lown
https://www.psacard.com/cert/42130018 Pop 5 #64 Philley
https://www.psacard.com/cert/42130022 Pop 5 #201 LaPalme
https://www.psacard.com/cert/42130030 Pop 6 #117 Gordon
https://www.psacard.com/cert/42130034 Pop 10 #28 Pellagrini

First one, #130 will do a super crazy number as a pop 2. In an 8 I think that card sells for 3K or more. Good things to come for Craig, JP and some lucky PSA Set Registry guys. For those who appreciate Craig's efforts making cards for them, you should reach out to him and see if you can make a deal rather than have to wait another couple of years for Craig to give them to JP.

[pspa123]

And if ML ships it fast, imagine the kudos it will get over on N54.

[CaptSpaulding]

Originally Posted by pspa123

And if ML ships it fast, imagine the kudos it will get over on N54.

Well JP should ship fast. If all of the card doctors he takes consignments from delay giving him material for a few years after they make the cards, the house needs to get these things shipped even before people pay!

[DragonWagon]

Originally Posted by MoreToppsPlease

Do you know if anyone’s used your db to determine the likelihood a particular card, set and/or grade has been altered yet

Here are the top 10 sets in the database
1948 Leaf 781
2003 Fleer 277
1957 Topps 140
1965 Topps 138
1964 Topps 108
1953 Parkhurst 101
1951 Bowman 92
1934 Goudey 86
1958 Topps 81
1968 Topps 81

[DragonWagon]

All Added to the Altered Card Database