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Old 09-12-2023, 09:49 AM   #301
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I mean I'm assuming they are around $1500 straight out of the gate, it's not a ridiculously outlandish price.
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Old 09-12-2023, 09:49 AM   #302
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Just coming to post it’s up and is a BIN /499 for almost 3k! Lol


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Now at least there will hopefully be some long-term value once the gimmicks subside....
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Old 09-12-2023, 10:19 AM   #303
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I haven't seen it mentioned elsewhere, but it seems as though Salas autos are live in the product; refractor is up on EBay. Good news!
Woah, that is a messy auto
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Old 09-12-2023, 10:25 AM   #304
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And the first base Chrome of Salas is up and features a prominent print line and what looks like a dimple as well. oy vey
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Old 09-12-2023, 10:30 AM   #305
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Guy with the refractor auto should just list it as a 24 hour auction. Set the market.
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Old 09-12-2023, 10:42 AM   #306
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Oof he’s also selling a base Salas for 50 bucks.


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Old 09-12-2023, 10:43 AM   #307
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And the first base Chrome of Salas is up and features a prominent print line and what looks like a dimple as well. oy vey

Fifty BIN…


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Old 09-12-2023, 10:48 AM   #308
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Guy with the refractor auto should just list it as a 24 hour auction. Set the market.
Yeah he blew his shot
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Old 09-12-2023, 10:51 AM   #309
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I haven't seen it mentioned elsewhere, but it seems as though Salas autos are live in the product; refractor is up on EBay. Good news!
Thank goodness!
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Old 09-12-2023, 10:54 AM   #310
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You do realize he is talking about you, right?

The constant name calling and negativity you spout is what is being referenced.

Let people enjoy the hobby the way they want, they don't need you gatekeeping and insulting them because they choose to spend money in a way you don't want to.
LOL, are you sure about that?

I hope you don’t lose too much money on your breaks, especially HTA. Some of these cases will be BRUTAL.
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Old 09-12-2023, 10:57 AM   #311
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Yeah he blew his shot
Speaking of blowing his shot - I just saw the Salas auto image and I’m not sure I like the fade into the schwing pose, LOL.
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Old 09-12-2023, 10:57 AM   #312
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You do realize he is talking about you, right?

The constant name calling and negativity you spout is what is being referenced.

Let people enjoy the hobby the way they want, they don't need you gatekeeping and insulting them because they choose to spend money in a way you don't want to.
Cardboard Karen being oblivious should be no surprise.
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Old 09-12-2023, 11:10 AM   #313
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Looks like salas spots are selling for around $400 per case. When I ran the EV for previous top guys (chourino for example) they came to around $11 per box. So a good baseline for comparison is chourino is worth Maybee $150 a case. How do you think salad will sell compared to him and extrapolate accordingly.
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Old 09-12-2023, 11:13 AM   #314
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Cardboard Karen being oblivious should be no surprise.
Didn’t know the gamblers anonymous meeting was scheduled here this morning, LOL!
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Old 09-12-2023, 11:15 AM   #315
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Looks like salas spots are selling for around $400 per case. When I ran the EV for previous top guys (chourino for example) they came to around $11 per box. So a good baseline for comparison is chourino is worth Maybee $150 a case. How do you think salad will sell compared to him and extrapolate accordingly.
Salas may surface every 4-5 cases of hta, so the market is pricing the initial price of a base Salas auto at about $800 making a refractor auto $1500?

This will be brutal.
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Old 09-12-2023, 11:28 AM   #316
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WBC cards are a miss for me. Can't stand the base 2023 Bowman design and the QC looks pretty bad. 2023 Finest World's Finest remain the king of WBC cards.
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Old 09-12-2023, 11:35 AM   #317
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Salas may surface every 4-5 cases of hta, so the market is pricing the initial price of a base Salas auto at about $800 making a refractor auto $1500?

This will be brutal.
I haven’t run any numbers for this release yet but plugged a 800 base card in app for previous bowman chrome runs and it came to around $325 a case which actually isn’t horrible I guess for $400 spot.

However this is assuming 110 card checklist and assuming Salas base not SP. also doesn’t include new parallels etc. jsut throwing some figures out there so people can do with it what they want
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Old 09-12-2023, 11:37 AM   #318
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Looks like salas spots are selling for around $400 per case. When I ran the EV for previous top guys (chourino for example) they came to around $11 per box. So a good baseline for comparison is chourino is worth Maybee $150 a case. How do you think salad will sell compared to him and extrapolate accordingly.
I saw the same thing about Salas spot on eBay. He looks to be the only draw for the Padres spot, but I expect Padres spot in case breaks (non eBay) to be well north of $400.
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Old 09-12-2023, 11:38 AM   #319
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I haven’t run any numbers for this release yet but plugged a 800 base card in app for previous bowman chrome runs and it came to around $325 a case which actually isn’t horrible I guess for $400 spot.

However this is assuming 110 card checklist and assuming Salas base not SP. also doesn’t include new parallels etc. jsut throwing some figures out there so people can do with it what they want
Thanks, it’s still helpful as a guide for those of us who care to use it.

I’m not sure how people who get in to breaks utilize odds. If they realized the math, it would probably discourage them from doing so, especially those who are on a budget.
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Old 09-12-2023, 11:43 AM   #320
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Any guess where the top 5-10 auto guys base starts and settles?
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Old 09-12-2023, 11:45 AM   #321
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Any guess where the top 5-10 auto guys base starts and settles?
Prices are usually chopped in half within 1-2 months.

You can buy one now, or two for the same price during the off-season in a few months.
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Old 09-12-2023, 11:47 AM   #322
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Right around now is what I like to call the 'best time to start looking at + buying the guys you like for next year's ST pump'. All the focus is now on this new Bowman class, young studs heading into the playoffs [Ronnie, Julio etc], and some older guys who are padding legacy stats with potential for playoff glory.
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Old 09-12-2023, 12:08 PM   #323
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Has anyone seen a pic of how this year's Ascensions inserts look? Curious for personal reasons; I like the artist they used (Jeremy Fish)

Also, I realize this is slightly off topic for this thread, but this seems to have become the official 23 Chrome thread at this point...
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Old 09-12-2023, 12:43 PM   #324
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Thanks, it’s still helpful as a guide for those of us who care to use it.

I’m not sure how people who get in to breaks utilize odds. If they realized the math, it would probably discourage them from doing so, especially those who are on a budget.
Here was my fav stat. If you were to buy into a single pick your player case break and got the spot for free with $4.00 shipping I want to say 90% of the spots would lose money At 0.00
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Old 09-12-2023, 01:09 PM   #325
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Here was my fav stat. If you were to buy into a single pick your player case break and got the spot for free with $4.00 shipping I want to say 90% of the spots would lose money At 0.00
That’s insane. More people should know about that but I think people who are participating go in with the mindset that they will lose their entire buy in price for the “entertainment value” and “comraderie”. Anything that hits would be considered a bonus.
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