Ohtani re-tears UCL, will not pitch again this year - Page 10

gododgersfan · 08-24-2023, 03:25 PM

Man, what a bummer for baseball. Hoping the best for Ohtani.

fishepa · 08-24-2023, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by ThoseBackPages

Ohtani.

Bo Jackson being a pro bowler in the NFL and all star in the MLB is more impressive than Shohei pitching and batting. My opinion of course.

JRX · 08-24-2023, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by fishepa

Bo Jackson being a pro bowler in the NFL and all star in the MLB is more impressive than Shohei pitching and batting. My opinion of course.

I would say if someone did what bo did now it would be more impressive. Not that doing it back in 80s/90s wasn't, but all sports have gotten even more specialized.

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redauto5 · 08-24-2023, 03:48 PM

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Man, I pray to the heavens that a great "crash" happens. I'm with yah, to me it's this order:

1) Holy Trinity

2) MJ

3) Sho

4) Patty

The rest of the mortals can fight for 5 and beyond

Haha yep, we are on the same wavelength with the exception of Patty. I'm a Spurs fan, and Patty Mills was a great little sparkplug, but imo you are overestimating his magnificence a tad!

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theshowandme · 08-24-2023, 04:08 PM

A lot of poor people in here I see

He will be fine

SearchPatrol · 08-24-2023, 04:54 PM

He will still get a larger contract than Judge. Thank God the NL has the DH.

Will be fascinating to see all the different offers and the restrictions. Will some teams make offers where he's not allowed to pitch? Only DH or play the field.

no10pin · 08-24-2023, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by fishepa

Bo Jackson being a pro bowler in the NFL and all star in the MLB is more impressive than Shohei pitching and batting. My opinion of course.

Yeah, 1989 was quite the year for Bo.

32 HR, 105 RBI, 26 SB
All-Star Game HR
173 Carries, 950 Yards, 5.5 YPC in 9 Games

Lonewolf · 08-24-2023, 07:07 PM

It was fun while it lasted. I hope Ohtani gets away from the Angels and just focuses on hitting from here on out...his homers are beyond majestic.

RainCityShecks · 08-24-2023, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Lonewolf

It was fun while it lasted. I hope Ohtani gets away from the Angels and just focuses on hitting from here on out...his homers are beyond majestic.

Good observation - I’m wondering what an Ohtani purely focused on hitting might look like…………

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gododgersfan · 08-24-2023, 07:42 PM

The Bo discussion is another angle at greatness. Hitting 32 HRs/100RBIs and almost rushing 1k yards in the same season will never be seen again. Just unreal talent.

Jolten Joe · 08-24-2023, 08:30 PM

I still believe he reaches record deal territory but if I was a club the deal would be heavily back loaded.

PeteD · 08-24-2023, 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by SearchPatrol

He will still get a larger contract than Judge. Thank God the NL has the DH.

Will be fascinating to see all the different offers and the restrictions. Will some teams make offers where he's not allowed to pitch? Only DH or play the field.

yeah he'll look great in Dodger blue.

xadieu · 08-24-2023, 08:36 PM

Looks like he will be batting against Mets and will continue to do so.

crazy4kinsler · 08-24-2023, 08:45 PM

They just mentioned on the Rangers broadcast that Ohtani is set to have Tommy John surgery. They were talking about Seager being in the MVP discussion. And by the way, he does NOT belong in that conversation. They were saying it takes on a whole different look now that Ohtani has to have TJ surgery.

speedyjg13 · 08-24-2023, 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by SearchPatrol

He will still get a larger contract than Judge. Thank God the NL has the DH.

Will be fascinating to see all the different offers and the restrictions. Will some teams make offers where he's not allowed to pitch? Only DH or play the field.

What would Bryce Harper do without it!!!! This rule is 1000% benefitting Harper. Could be for Ohtani if he goes to the NL.

xadieu · 08-24-2023, 08:51 PM

He's still batting. It's been announced he's playing tomorrow against Mets and moving forward will still bat.

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Originally Posted by crazy4kinsler

They just mentioned on the Rangers broadcast that Ohtani is set to have Tommy John surgery. They were talking about Seager being in the MVP discussion. And by the way, he does NOT belong in that conversation. They were saying it takes on a whole different look now that Ohtani has to have TJ surgery.

crazy4kinsler · 08-24-2023, 08:52 PM

That's good to know. Wondering if he could still do that. We were just talking today at work if a player could still hit and play 1B with TJ.

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Originally Posted by xadieu

He's still batting. It's been announced he's playing tomorrow against Mets and moving forward will still bat.

Stech36 · 08-24-2023, 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by crazy4kinsler

That's good to know. Wondering if he could still do that. We were just talking today at work if a player could still hit and play 1B with TJ.

Unless it’s bothering him, there’s no medical reason he shouldn’t be able to hit. I personally had TJ, right handed thrower, lefty batter. Didn’t feel a thing swinging the bat. Hurt every time I tried to throw.

I could’ve toughed it out and played first base if there was a reason, like a pennant race. But if your future is as a pitcher, I wouldn’t recommend it. Could hurt your shoulder trying to compensate for the elbow pain.

Jolten Joe · 08-24-2023, 09:17 PM

Masahiro Tanaka had a UCL Tear and pitched almost his entire big league career with it only getting rehab and plasma injections. I don't remember what grade his tear was though.

from an article in ST 2019

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A lot of people have been waiting for Tanaka’s elbow to blow since he opted for rehab instead of Tommy John surgery when he was injured midway 2014, his rookie season as a big leaguer.

A lot of people have been wrong so far.

“I’m not conscious of it,” Tanaka said. “I don’t exercise the elbow more so than other things. I don’t do anything special specifically for the elbow.”

Tanaka missed just 2 ½ months before returning to make two September starts in 2014, then made it through four full seasons pitching with this tear while seeing many other pitchers with similar injuries get Tommy John surgery and then not pitch again for about a year.

SupermanBrandon · 08-24-2023, 09:20 PM

I can't imagine a world where the Rangers broadcasters would think Seager could now win the MVP, lol

Rbradleigh · 08-24-2023, 09:24 PM

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I don’t think it’s fair to blame it on the workload especially since he was in a 6 man rotation. these things just happen. Degrom had one of lightest workloads there was and had 2 TJ. It just sucks but could easily happen to any pitcher

Mark Prior had what looked to be the most perfect fluid mechanics and sh*t happens.

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refuse24 · 08-24-2023, 09:35 PM

I wonder is he will still gets MVP this year

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JRX · 08-24-2023, 09:37 PM

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I wonder is he will still gets MVP this year

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Yes, he's at 8.6fwar, next highest is actually witt with 5.1

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brios8 · 08-24-2023, 10:01 PM

So now Witts value should go up for next season as he has a great shot at MVP

JRX · 08-24-2023, 10:05 PM

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So now Witts value should go up for next season as he has a great shot at MVP

Not happening with him on kc unless he has an 8 to 10 war season and next highest is max 6

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08-24-2023, 03:25 PM	#226
gododgersfan Member Join Date: Jul 2018 Location: Alexandria, VA Posts: 466 goarmynco	Man, what a bummer for baseball. Hoping the best for Ohtani.

08-24-2023, 04:08 PM	#230
theshowandme Member Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 5,133 theshowandme nova_cards	A lot of poor people in here I see He will be fine

08-24-2023, 04:54 PM	#231
SearchPatrol Member Join Date: Sep 2020 Posts: 1,051 AndrewB	He will still get a larger contract than Judge. Thank God the NL has the DH. Will be fascinating to see all the different offers and the restrictions. Will some teams make offers where he's not allowed to pitch? Only DH or play the field.

08-24-2023, 07:07 PM	#233
Lonewolf Member Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: California Posts: 4,563	It was fun while it lasted. I hope Ohtani gets away from the Angels and just focuses on hitting from here on out...his homers are beyond majestic.

08-24-2023, 07:42 PM	#235
gododgersfan Member Join Date: Jul 2018 Location: Alexandria, VA Posts: 466 goarmynco	The Bo discussion is another angle at greatness. Hitting 32 HRs/100RBIs and almost rushing 1k yards in the same season will never be seen again. Just unreal talent.

08-24-2023, 08:30 PM	#236
Jolten Joe Banned - PBM Join Date: Dec 2022 Posts: 1,666	I still believe he reaches record deal territory but if I was a club the deal would be heavily back loaded.

08-24-2023, 08:36 PM	#238
xadieu Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: PA, USA Posts: 164	Looks like he will be batting against Mets and will continue to do so.

08-24-2023, 09:20 PM	#245
SupermanBrandon Banned Join Date: Dec 2018 Location: TN Posts: 15,842	I can't imagine a world where the Rangers broadcasters would think Seager could now win the MVP, lol

08-24-2023, 10:01 PM	#249
brios8 Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: South Padre Island, TX Posts: 6,995 brios8 brios8	So now Witts value should go up for next season as he has a great shot at MVP