Elly De La Cruz - Page 59

SupermanBrandon · 08-21-2023, 11:39 PM

…and that’s not hobby boom drop off. That’s major call up hype coupled with instant performance followed by poor performance…drop off. Elly and prospects moving forward will follow more of a pre-boom pattern. Hype, Call Up, Drop Off. Sell during the hype to call up stages. Don’t wait to see if they then perform.

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theredmenace · 08-21-2023, 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by SupermanBrandon

…and that’s not hobby boom drop off. That’s major call up hype coupled with instant performance followed by poor performance…drop off. Elly and prospects moving forward will follow more of a pre-boom pattern. Hype, Call Up, Drop Off. Sell during the hype to call up stages. Don’t wait to see if they then perform.

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Sure sure sure but the next guy will be different. And the guy after that? Even more different.

Elly has a very bright future but his card prices were insane. Not every guy is 2012 Mike Trout.

Midi · 08-22-2023, 06:55 AM

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Originally Posted by theredmenace

Sure sure sure but the next guy will be different. And the guy after that? Even more different.

Elly has a very bright future but his card prices were insane. Not every guy is 2012 Mike Trout.

Thats your response to his accurate post? This is why there is so much bickering on here because people like you dont listen.

jhssketchcards · 08-22-2023, 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by theredmenace

Sure sure sure but the next guy will be different. And the guy after that? Even more different.

Elly has a very bright future but his card prices were insane. Not every guy is 2012 Mike Trout.

This is a very accurate description of every single prospect coming up, and what happens when they fizzle. I remember when so many were the “next” HOF great only to be the next “what if” or “oh well”.
Just in the past few years we’ve seen it with Gleyber, Eloy, Vlad Jr, Robert etc (Robert seems to be figuring it out and there’s still time for Vlad to bounce back). De La Cruz may figure things out and become a star, and if he does it will be good for the game. But if he doesn’t it won’t be anything new.
Collectors want these young guys to be next “it” guy and that’s fine, but it’s hard to stay consistent in this game from season 1 to season 5 even. Trout set the bar high. I’m sure the next prospect to be the next “insert HOF player here” is right around the corner.

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SupermanBrandon · 08-22-2023, 07:51 AM

The thing is…most of the better influencers & investors that pumped how great he is and will be long term…are probably already out of Elly cards. They sold the story to the next guy. And that’s the guys that currently have his stuff at the super inflated prices.

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JeffG1954 · 08-22-2023, 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by theredmenace

Sure sure sure but the next guy will be different. And the guy after that? Even more different.

Elly has a very bright future but his card prices were insane. Not every guy is 2012 Mike Trout.

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Originally Posted by Midi

Thats your response to his accurate post? This is why there is so much bickering on here because people like you dont listen.

I took his reply as a bit of sarcasm and your reply as to why there is so much back and forth garbage on here. I guess it's all a matter of how we interpret things.

jhssketchcards · 08-22-2023, 03:18 PM

Can’t wait for these new Topps inserts sets for 2024…

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theredmenace · 08-22-2023, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by SupermanBrandon

The thing is…most of the better influencers & investors that pumped how great he is and will be long term…are probably already out of Elly cards. They sold the story to the next guy. And that’s the guys that currently have his stuff at the super inflated prices.

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I've found that as a rule of thumb if I'm seeking out value buys, I don't buy anyone who has a player specific thread on the first page of this forum. I'll buy an Elly once the big money ball gets yanked into orbit around one of the Jacksons.

zdawgs · 08-23-2023, 03:57 PM

How many are regretting their De La Cruz purchases over the past 1-2 months? I just wish I had the cards during that time period to sell the overhyped Red.

ThoseBackPages · 08-23-2023, 03:57 PM

i own a couple of his minor league cards

OneSickDegen · 08-23-2023, 04:01 PM

You spelled Wander Franco wrong

splitrockgamer · 08-23-2023, 04:02 PM

I remember people saying this about Ohtani in 2018

zdawgs · 08-23-2023, 04:08 PM

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You spelled Wander Franco wrong

I've taken a few big L's on Wander stuff. It sure seems like pitchers are figuring out De La Cruz so hopefully he will adjust. Hitting is hard obviously.

zdawgs · 08-23-2023, 04:08 PM

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I remember people saying this about Ohtani in 2018

to compare De La Cruz to Ohtani is like comparing Kirk Cousins to Pat Mahomes.

Skipscards · 08-23-2023, 04:10 PM

21 year old kid ~60 games into his career. Yep, dump him.

While we're at it, time to give up on Osleivis Basabe. He only knocked in 4 runs on that Grand Slam last night. What a loser.

dodgerfanjohn · 08-23-2023, 04:13 PM

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I remember people saying this about Ohtani in 2018

No kidding. I pulled a /5 2020 auto in late 2020 where the highest offer I got was $250.

It would insta sell today if I listed it on eBay for $1500 BIN

zdawgs · 08-23-2023, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Skipscards

21 year old kid ~60 games into his career. Yep, dump him.

While we're at it, time to give up on Osleivis Basabe. He only knocked in 4 runs on that Grand Slam last night. What a loser.

Never said dump him.....just the $$ spent on him seemed ridiculous and he'd have to be a hall of famer to make it worth it.

SupermanBrandon · 08-23-2023, 04:15 PM

Im not worried

hermanotarjeta · 08-23-2023, 04:16 PM

A gold refractor auto still sold for an awful lot of money - the speculators are still out there as long as he stays healthy and dates people his own age.

Triple B · 08-23-2023, 04:17 PM

I hope this ages as well as the Trout thread did.

hermanotarjeta · 08-23-2023, 04:21 PM

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I hope this ages as well as the Trout thread did.

Am I allowed to say “Zion - ouch” here in a feeble attempt to rejuvenate his cardboard from the dead?

johnlocke36 · 08-23-2023, 04:23 PM

Card prices aside just keep firing the under .5 hits vs any elite starting pitcher. Often around +175 was +150 vs ohtani today. Then can use the winnings in off season to free roll all the cards you want and can’t go wrong

hche · 08-23-2023, 04:24 PM

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Never said dump him.....just the $$ spent on him seemed ridiculous and he'd have to be a hall of famer to make it worth it.

The same could be said about all the hot prospects.

Boo · 08-23-2023, 04:24 PM

I thought there was already a thread about him?

crpav · 08-23-2023, 04:39 PM

You summoned the beast!

08-21-2023, 11:39 PM	#1451
SupermanBrandon Banned Join Date: Dec 2018 Location: TN Posts: 15,843	Elly De La Cruz …and that’s not hobby boom drop off. That’s major call up hype coupled with instant performance followed by poor performance…drop off. Elly and prospects moving forward will follow more of a pre-boom pattern. Hype, Call Up, Drop Off. Sell during the hype to call up stages. Don’t wait to see if they then perform. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

08-23-2023, 03:57 PM	#1459
zdawgs Member Join Date: Apr 2022 Posts: 292	Elly De La Cruz......ouch How many are regretting their De La Cruz purchases over the past 1-2 months? I just wish I had the cards during that time period to sell the overhyped Red. Last edited by iluvfish2; 08-23-2023 at 06:20 PM. Reason: merged

08-23-2023, 03:57 PM	#1460
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08-23-2023, 04:10 PM	#1465
Skipscards Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: In Tribute To The Great Ryno Posts: 30,131 jlankf2 jmp4	21 year old kid ~60 games into his career. Yep, dump him. While we're at it, time to give up on Osleivis Basabe. He only knocked in 4 runs on that Grand Slam last night. What a loser. __________________ Go Royals!! #RoyalsIn2015 <---It Happened!! #TEAMZinck Sometimes it is astounding that we are able to persist in a world so full of morons.

08-23-2023, 04:17 PM	#1470
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08-22-2023, 07:51 AM	#1455
SupermanBrandon Banned Join Date: Dec 2018 Location: TN Posts: 15,843	The thing is…most of the better influencers & investors that pumped how great he is and will be long term…are probably already out of Elly cards. They sold the story to the next guy. And that’s the guys that currently have his stuff at the super inflated prices. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

08-22-2023, 03:18 PM	#1457
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08-23-2023, 04:01 PM	#1461
OneSickDegen Member Join Date: Jun 2021 Location: KCMO -> LV Posts: 1,467	You spelled Wander Franco wrong

08-23-2023, 04:02 PM	#1462
splitrockgamer Member Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: Sioux Falls, SD Posts: 2,646 splitrockgamer	I remember people saying this about Ohtani in 2018

08-23-2023, 04:15 PM	#1468
SupermanBrandon Banned Join Date: Dec 2018 Location: TN Posts: 15,843	Im not worried

08-23-2023, 04:16 PM	#1469
hermanotarjeta Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 21,753	A gold refractor auto still sold for an awful lot of money - the speculators are still out there as long as he stays healthy and dates people his own age.

08-23-2023, 04:23 PM	#1472
johnlocke36 Member Join Date: May 2020 Location: Southern California Posts: 2,761	Card prices aside just keep firing the under .5 hits vs any elite starting pitcher. Often around +175 was +150 vs ohtani today. Then can use the winnings in off season to free roll all the cards you want and can’t go wrong

08-23-2023, 04:24 PM	#1474
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08-23-2023, 04:39 PM	#1475
crpav Member Join Date: Apr 2019 Posts: 3,175	You summoned the beast!