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#19001 |
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An assortment, 95% NBA. Some late 90's, mostly 2000's/2010's. Like random Kobe, Lebron serial numbered parallels from 2000's products, star refractors Dirk from 2000's, Kobe rookies, Steph Curry 2010's inserts/base, etc. This was not an order filled with 90's condition sensitive inserts; only a few were condition sensitive without hindsight.
I got hit on thicker cards too. Like a Jackie Robinson game used card graded 6 (that looked 8/9 to me), another Robinson game used I thought was sure 9/10 got an "8", exquisite autos graded 7 (these 2 looked mint to me), graded several Panini Innovation 2012/2013 and got crushed with 7's and 8's. They're thicker cards but again, I looked over them. Don't know what grader was seeing since edges/corner looked good. I must have got hurt on surface on some. Cards I thought were sure 9's got 8's. All cards I thought were "8's or 9's" got 8's or lower. Luck of the draw. Gonna be more selective next time, totally NOT grade thicker cards no matter how good they look, and will separate orders. |
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Join Date: Sep 2022
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It's embarrassing and ridiculous and even outright fraudulent that their results can be so unreliable and inconsistent, both in terms of grading results and turnaround times. What a terrible, terrible company. Rest assured, you are not alone in this experience. But please remember that better order and know that more of those are in your future, if you take the blows and stay resilient. Good luck, and try not to stab yourself cracking some of these out of their cases! |
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Join Date: Dec 2022
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My 42 card sub popped and I'm kinda in shock. Lots of 2022-2023 stuff getting 8's and 6's. I find it hard to believe I missed that many major flaws on the 6's. And I never knew PSA did half grades.
The 6's were..... 2022 Topps Chrome Update USC35 Bobby Witt Jr. , 2023 Bowman Sapphire Edition Chrome Prospects BCP25 Druw Jones, and a 2023 Topps 1988 Topps Baseball Relics 88RYA Yordan Alvarez Red. The Bobby Witt Jr appears to have a piece of lint below the bat so that will be a crack and resub for sure. The Druw Sapphire I'm guessing has a printing flaw such as scratches or roller marks I don't think finger prints would warrant a 6 usually it's a fairly obvious issue. The centering might be off a little L-R but not enough to warrant a 6. The Yordan relic I'm not sure because it looked really good to the eye. ![]() ![]() ![]() Some pretty big cards at least to me gemed out at 10 so over all I'm really pleased. 6's - 3 8's - 4 8.5 - 1 9's - 12 10's - 22 Last edited by Jolten Joe; 07-27-2023 at 09:09 PM. |
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#19007 |
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Join Date: Oct 2022
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All these grading games by PSA is one reason I have switched my collecting to vintage. I used to spend hours and hours looking at cards under a light with a magnifying glass, just to get grades less than I thought the cards would get, even on the low estimation. At least with vintage, or at least how I collect, I am shooting for 3's, 4's, 5's. No need to scrutinize a card for five to ten minutes. Just send the card off. And of course, PSA is struggling in that world also, moving at a snails pace. Actually a snail may move faster than PSA vintage. I don't know of many companies where they keep kicking you in the junk and people keep coming back asking for more.
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Join Date: Jun 2022
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I still have a lot of nonsports stuff I'd submit with a special though that I'd be magnifying for gems for. But that's for another day. |
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#19009 |
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Join Date: Jun 2020
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Order Type: Value Plus $40
# of cards: 10 Order delivered: 7/25/2023 Order received per PSA: 7/25/2023 (Arrived - My Orders page) Research & ID: 7/26/2023 Grading: 7/28/2023 Assembly: QA1: QA2: Grades/Shipped:
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Location: Meandering the matrix code that the hobby/forum overlords spit out
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#19011 |
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Join Date: Jan 2023
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PSA customer service is “looking into” my delayed order. Going on 30 business days, order not even logged yet…
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#19012 |
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Join Date: Jul 2023
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Emailed yesterday asking for an update since I was nearing my shipping insurance claim deadline and magically went into grading with no email response.
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Join Date: Jan 2022
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I submitted some vintage football stuff and my work buddy sent in a couple of Brady RCs through a LCS (primarily a Pokemon dealer) on value tier. I guess mine are value, his are technically value plus being higher dollar cards. The LCS website has a tracker that interfaces with PSA but it doesn't display the dates that already passed.
We submitted the cards in-store on 7/7, they were received by PSA early the next week... currently just entered Grading stage. Based on recent submittals, looks like that means we're 2-3 weeks out from grades? Nice turnaround so far compared to the 90 days we expected (total novices to the process). Edit: well actually my friend's stuff is in different spots than mine. One is at QA2 and one still in Research & ID. Can't tell which is which (value vs. value plus). I have 6 cards from 1975 Topps, he has a Brady 2000 Certified and Mystique. I assume we are at the mercy of the rest of the bulk submission as to when it'll ship?
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Collecting Longhorns RCs 1999-2005 FB/BKB https://sites.google.com/view/longhornjunkie/home Running Card Show (Cards FS) - http://bit.ly/longhornjunkie Last edited by longhornjunkie; 07-28-2023 at 03:49 PM. |
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Order Type: 90s+ Sports Special
# of cards: 68 Order Arrived: 6/12/23 Order Entered: 7/7/23 Research & ID: 7/7/23 Grading: 7/11/23 Assembly: 7/26/23 QA1: 7/28/23 QA2: Grades: Shipped:
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#19017 |
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Join Date: Sep 2019
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March 7 Vintage Special finally hit QA2 w/upcharges today at 104 weekdays. Way longer than expected, but the grades are actually reasonable and seemingly accurate for vintage. Six months ago, my vintage orders were consistently getting hammered. Hopefully that problem is over.
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Will they ship back to our LCS in separate shipments? Seems like it would all have to come back together to fulfill the submission.
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Collecting Longhorns RCs 1999-2005 FB/BKB https://sites.google.com/view/longhornjunkie/home Running Card Show (Cards FS) - http://bit.ly/longhornjunkie |
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Decided to ship it USPS ground advantage at 12 ounces. Arrived two days later. Fully anticipating about 3/4 months.
Order Type: 90s Sports Special # of cards: 17 Order Arrived: 7/28/2023 Order Entered: Research & ID: Grading: Assembly: QA1: QA2: Grades: Shipped:
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#19020 |
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Join Date: May 2020
Location: Seattle, WA
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Value 4 cards
Order arrived: 7/13/23 Order Prep: 7/28/23 Research & ID: 7/28/23 Grading: Assembly: QA1: QA2: Grades: Shipped: |
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#19021 |
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Join Date: Jul 2023
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Order Type: 80s Sports Special
# of cards: 40 Order Arrived: 7/19/23 Order Entered: Research & ID: Grading: Assembly: QA1: QA2: Grades: Shipped: |
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Join Date: Nov 2021
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Biggot much? |
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#19025 |
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Join Date: Sep 2022
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Biggot? You mean, bigot? No. And you might wanna recheck your dictionary on the meaning of that word. But biased? Yes, absolutely. PSA is a terrible, terrible, terrible company.
I see it time and again in my own orders, 6s and 8s on cards I was expected 9s and 10s, and then I crack them and resubmit, and I get 9s and 10s. You see it right here in this thread just a few posts up... WITH pictures, wise guy. It's not a mystery. Nor is it discrimination or racism against the so-called "professionals" who work there. LMAO. Seriously, what the heck dude? Sorry if you work there. I don't hate *you* in particular. Just your terrible company. |
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