What do you find the most annoying at shows?

[minnesotachill]

Just the same garbage at every table. Dealers are filling their cases with young overhyped players who have nowhere to go down in value.

The truly rare and high demand stuff gets left at home. If it does make its way to the showcase its priced 3x market price.

[Stackfan]

Originally Posted by minnesotachill

Just the same garbage at every table. Dealers are filling their cases with young overhyped players who have nowhere to go down in value.

The truly rare and high demand stuff gets left at home. If it does make its way to the showcase its priced 3x market price.

Is this surprising though?? Why should a dealer sell their PC type / Truly rare / high demands cards; when they can unload their junk?

[7nohitter]

As others have said:

The 305 pound fat guy who reeks and takes up space.
Dude...NOBODY wants you there. Shower. Apply pit stick!......
Yes, the rest of us are judging you!!!

[mrb842]

Dealers who rip people trying to buy from them for looking at their phones. I do it in a grocery store, chill.

[crazy4kinsler]

Seems this is absolutely all that is at shows nowadays, even smaller ones. And for a guy looking for 90s-00s stuff, it's rather disappointing. Most people only have vintage or newer, like 2020-now. In fact, I wonder if anyone actually collected between 1993-2020.

Originally Posted by chandman

Looking at all the showcases with the same modern cards. Over and Over again. The countless parallels of the same cards at each table. It seems like everything is vintage or modern. Maybe I belong to a smaller group of collectors that enjoys the retro era of the 90s and early 2000s. But I enjoy a selection and it is frustrating to always seem the same stuff at each show.

[jdhaugh11]

Originally Posted by crazy4kinsler

Seems this is absolutely all that is at shows nowadays, even smaller ones. And for a guy looking for 90s-00s stuff, it's rather disappointing. Most people only have vintage or newer, like 2020-now. In fact, I wonder if anyone actually collected between 1993-2020.

I think it's because a lot of rare inserts and parallels from the 90s and early 2000s is being put away in collections and never again seen or only bought and traded online.
Dealers don't bring this stuff unless they think they will have a specific buyer.

[crazy4kinsler]

You're probably right. But even trying to buy it online. Anytime I create a post on Facebook looking for refractors, parallels, autos and GUd, 99.95% of the cards are from 2020-now. It's like that's all people have. When I create a post saying I"m looking for 90s-10s, I get nothing but crickets. I truly think people didn't collect in that gap of the mid-1990s until 2019. So baffling.

Originally Posted by jdhaugh11

I think it's because a lot of rare inserts and parallels from the 90s and early 2000s is being put away in collections and never again seen or only bought and traded online.
Dealers don't bring this stuff unless they think they will have a specific buyer.

[jdhaugh11]

Originally Posted by crazy4kinsler

You're probably right. But even trying to buy it online. Anytime I create a post on Facebook looking for refractors, parallels, autos and GUd, 99.95% of the cards are from 2020-now. It's like that's all people have. When I create a post saying I"m looking for 90s-10s, I get nothing but crickets. I truly think people didn't collect in that gap of the mid-1990s until 2019. So baffling.

They are out there somewhere, they made a lot back in the 90s! LOL

[collective]

Dealers without prices on items. Dealer after dealer with cases filled with the same slabbed overproduced ultra-modern. Dealers over eBay comps. Rude guests and rude dealers

[Foo3112]

Folks walking around with their pelican cases. Especially the larger ones with wheels.

YouTube folks walking with a "crew".

I attended in 2019 and had no problem walking up to showcases and being able to view everything. 2021 Was much different. Quite a number of tables that I simply had to skip due to it being 2-3 rows deep with people all around. Good for dealers, however.

Dealers not pricing out their items. Personally, I skip over those and move to the next table.

In the evenings, I like to meet up with some folks and see what everyone picked up that day while having some drinks. 2021 and after, the lobbies and hallways are filled with kids over taking the hotels and doing their own last minute trade night. I feel they need to be more organized, and the hotel should rent them out a ballroom if available.

[Donald1942]

Originally Posted by collective

Dealers without prices on items. Dealer after dealer with cases filled with the same slabbed overproduced ultra-modern. Dealers over eBay comps. Rude guests and rude dealers

I can understand the no price issue very annoying. But the being over comps is growing more and more at every show. And I see people still selling and buyers negotiating off the sticker price which is how it should be done. Beckett was a Guide ebay and auction houses are Guides also not the final price. If dealers wanted they can use ebay as a guide and price there cards on current listing prices. We as buyers need to learn to negotiate or walk away and don't bash the dealers if we don't get our way.
The most annoying at a show is buyers complaining about comps and shoving there phones in dealers faces.

[mrb842]

Originally Posted by jdhaugh11

While I watch some of the influencers on YouTube, it does seem like most of them only got into cards within the past 3-5 years. While I find them entertaining at times, their understanding of history seems limited to the covid era, so when they say a product is a good deal, I have to laugh at times. They also don't really understand ROI, because if they were just breaking to collect or sell, they would be losing a ton.

I'm not one of them and don't like them but kids with their parents who come love watching those guys like the foul ball guy who runs around baseball games. They're obnoxious but when you see the kids with their parents at shows run up to them and want pictures-I'm talking 7-14 year olds, they're entitled to be a part of this just as much as the 50 year old guys.

[727sportscards]

Lack of quality chairs at shows. I want to go thru boxes for hours...I won't do it if I have to stand the whole time.

Prices must be obvious. I am a dealer and every single card has a price or price point.

Customers who get upset when dealers don't bring commons to shows. It is WAY too expensive to set up these days to bring stuff that takes up that much room and brings in so little money.

[tdbaseballcards]

Lack of prices and dealers who give you the whole 'make a stack and we will figure it out.' These never end well for me.
People who put their cases on top of the cases and block all the cards.
People eating/drinking near the cards.
Dealers who are too busy to help you and give you attitude when you ask about a card.
People who grab a stack from the box you are looking through without asking.
People standing around having a 20 minute convo blocking everyone else from seeing/getting around.
People who throw away base cards at a show after opening boxes.

[DajuanWagner]

Originally Posted by Grid

5) The hoggers. The hoggers can hog up many different things/areas.

Sometimes they will pull up a seat (many bring their own fold out ones, and I have even seen buckets to sit on) and hog up the aisle as people squeeze to get by, so they can riffle through monster boxes.

They will hog up all the cards a dealer has out, to keep anyone else from looking through until they are done. Common tactics such as laying their backpack or coat over an area of cards on the table. Or just stating their claim over something "Hey, I haven't looked through that box yet. I was here first"

THIS!!!!! When someone walks up to a table, why can't the "hog" move aside a little so that the person walking up can access the box/boxes, instead of making the person walking up do a "reach around" (if you know what I mean?)....

[Jeramy]

Question from a newb for sellers: if someone is collecting a specific card or two, is it okay if they leave a “business card” with the card info and contact info?

[Kennesawsports]

From a dealer perspective.....

Customers who want everything at Ebay comp or below but when you ask them a price on their cards, they want Ebay comps or higher.....

Customers need to keep in mind that sometimes dealers cannot or will not sell to you for what the last comp was or less than comps. I have had customers take out their phone and tell me what the comp was and I tell them " I am the comp, sorry I cannot sell at that price" and they get mad...

Customers why want to crucify dealers because of what they ask for their cards......If they do not like the price, then just be courteous and move on, no need to preach

Dealers who are not attentive to the customer( sitting down, or ignoring)...Health problems not withstanding...

Customers putting their merchandise on dealers showcases and covering up their cases...

Blocking the dealers showcases by carrying on a conversation with their buddies...

[Donald1942]

Originally Posted by Kennesawsports

From a dealer perspective.....

Customers who want everything at Ebay comp or below but when you ask them a price on their cards, they want Ebay comps or higher.....

Customers need to keep in mind that sometimes dealers cannot or will not sell to you for what the last comp was or less than comps. I have had customers take out their phone and tell me what the comp was and I tell them " I am the comp, sorry I cannot sell at that price" and they get mad...

Customers why want to crucify dealers because of what they ask for their cards......If they do not like the price, then just be courteous and move on, no need to preach

Dealers who are not attentive to the customer( sitting down, or ignoring)...Health problems not withstanding...

Customers putting their merchandise on dealers showcases and covering up their cases...

Blocking the dealers showcases by carrying on a conversation with their buddies...

this was said perfectly .

[JPSportshack]

Originally Posted by Kennesawsports

From a dealer perspective.....

Customers who want everything at Ebay comp or below but when you ask them a price on their cards, they want Ebay comps or higher.....

So from your perspective how should one approach trades where comps are similar? I'm fine with not making it an even swap but I don't think trade value should be 60% of comp price. Say for example each side of the deal has two $100 cards. Is $10 or $20 cash on top of the card you're trading a reasonable offer? I've also run into an issue while comping my cards for the show where there's a /50 version to comp but I have the /25 version. Do I look at differences of similar cards where both version comps are available and use that to adjust the price of the /50 to the /25 accordingly?

[dirtydistance]

People who stick their hands into a box of cards I’m looking through. For that reason deodorant may now be optional to keep them away!

[hammerva]

Originally Posted by dirtydistance

People who stick their hands into a box of cards I’m looking through. For that reason deodorant may now be optional to keep them away!

Counterpoint: people who want you to wait until they are finished with the entire box before you get your hands on a row or two. I am sure dealers don't like when someone just gives up at a table because they don't feel like waiting for someone.

[727sportscards]

Originally Posted by hammerva

Counterpoint: people who want you to wait until they are finished with the entire box before you get your hands on a row or two. I am sure dealers don't like when someone just gives up at a table because they don't feel like waiting for someone.

As a dealer who relies on stuff in boxes….yep, we don’t like it. Share the box kids.

[mankey21]

Originally Posted by 727sportscards

As a dealer who relies on stuff in boxes….yep, we don’t like it. Share the box kids.

Share the box is fine. But, stay out of the same row in the box.

[TitanTom]

As a dealer with thousands and thousands of cards, no way I could price everything and stay current. My booth has no prices in the cases or boxes but my booth seems to stay pretty packed. I try to make everyone a decent deal but if prices on the cards are a problem for you, my booth isn't for you. The only reason I can see that would make it a problem is if you are hoping to find $100 card that recently jumped to $200. I see stuff priced often and never am sure if that is what they expect to get or how they negotiate. I feel like having a price or not is not important. The most important thing is taking a few moments to get to know your dealer and how we can work together. If you have been to my booth in the past, I hope you have had a good experience.

[dirtydistance]

Originally Posted by mankey21

Share the box is fine. But, stay out of the same row in the box.

Agreed. I get it too. Some tables get crowded and sometimes you have to share a box but I go to some shows, smaller ones and I’m the only guy at the table. Sometimes I spend a couple bucks at a table, sometimes $40-50, sometimes hundreds depending on what I can find in bulk. There is no one besides me and maybe one person at the table and there’s 8 or 10 boxes and I’ve had people reaching into the same row im looking through! Like I get if they were there looking for a card they saw earlier, just ask and I’ll help you find it but no, they shuffle though a handful of cards and usually just walk away. That’s annoying.