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I have checked on a few of the other cards he has and they are also trimmed. As usual with Libersher, he trims practically everything he has listed.
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Join Date: Jul 2013
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*This trimmed card is in a current live auction by Greg Libersher under a secondary Ebay ID
that he created after being outed on the Blowout Forum as a card doctor. His Ebay selling ID is now goosescards. Ebay link: https://www.ebay.com/itm/40394900909...QAAOSwP8xjUEbJ Raw card to PSA 9 PSA Cert #62795488 1966 Topps Checklist (small print) #183 Value gain of $TBD PSA Set Registry: none found This card was purchased by masked buyer ID g***r (Greg Libersher) from Ebay seller gregmorriscards as a raw card for $51.00 on January 21, 2021. Card is being sold in a live auction by Ebay seller goosescards (Greg Libersher) as a PSA 9 for $TBD on October 29, 2022. Yellow circles are print, fiber, stain or chipping identifiers. Red box identifies trimmed right edge. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
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#554 |
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Typical, card molesting cochroach.
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Dealers to avoid -- https://www.blowoutforums.com/showpost.php?p=14831085&postcount=1 |
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#555 |
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Join Date: Apr 2018
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Only thing we know for certain is that PSA is still not able to detect his and others' trimmed cards.
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#556 |
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#557 |
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Card trimmer Greg Libersher is still getting cards graded by PSA.
https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_ssn...75.m3561.l2562
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#558 |
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As PSA/eBay doesn't seem to care, your tracking and research is much appreciated.
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verb (used with object), goosed, goos·ing. 9) Slang. to poke (a person) between the buttocks to startle. 10) Informal. a) to prod or urge to action or an emotional reaction: The promise of time off may goose the workers and increase profits. b) to strengthen or improve (often followed by up): Let's goose up the stew with some wine. c) to increase; raise (often followed by up): to goose up government loans in weak industries. d) to give a spurt of fuel to (a motor) to increase speed. |
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#560 |
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Join Date: Jul 2013
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*This trimmed card is in a current live auction by Greg Libersher under a secondary Ebay ID
that he created after being outed on the Blowout Forum as a card doctor. His Ebay selling ID is now goosescards. Ebay link: https://www.ebay.com/itm/40412381370...4AAOSwo-Fjz524 Raw card to PSA 9 PSA Cert #65286998 1964 Philadelphia #46 Lee Folkins Value gain of $TBD PSA Set Registry: none found This card was purchased by masked buyer ID g***r (Greg Libersher) from Ebay seller gregmorriscards as a raw card for $18.26 on February 05, 2021. Card is being sold in a live auction by Ebay seller goosescards (Greg Libersher) as a PSA 9 for $TBD on January 25, 2022. Yellow circles are print, fiber, stain or chipping identifiers. Red boxes identify trimmed left and right edges. Card had a very slight diamond cut and Libersher squared the borders up. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
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This one is trimmed and is already at $300.00
Libersher is prolific at trimming. PSA is prolific at grading his trimmed cards. https://www.ebay.com/itm/40411723957...sAAOSwIJhjqsMq ![]()
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Added to the Altered Card Database https://www.tiffanycards.com/altered-card-database
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*This trimmed card is in a current live auction by Greg Libersher under a secondary Ebay ID
that he created after being outed on the Blowout Forum as a card doctor. He now sells altered cards under the Ebay selling ID of goosescards. PSA is still accepting altered card submissions from Libersher. Ebay link: 1941 Double Play Eddie Joost - 117 / Ernest Koy - 118 PSA 8 NMMT TOUGH!! https://www.ebay.com/itm/40423292084...Bk9SR4C-x_rvYQ Raw card to PSA 8 PSA Cert #65939617 1941 Double Play Eddie Joost 117 / Ernest Koy 118 Value gain of $TBD PSA Set Registry: none found/TBD This card was purchased by masked buyer ID g***r (Greg Libersher) from Ebay seller gregmorriscards as a raw card for $113.50 on April 04, 2021. Card is being sold in a live auction by Ebay seller goosescards (Greg Libersher) as a PSA 8 for $TBD on April 13, 2023. Yellow circles are print, fiber, stain or chipping identifiers. Red box identifies trimmed left edge (as viewed). ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
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Last edited by corndog; 04-14-2023 at 09:35 PM. |
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Join Date: Jul 2013
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The below Greg Libersher trimmed card was outed in April of 2021 and was found to be in Nat Turner's PSA set registry at the time.
The same card was sold by Goldin Auctions in March of 2023 with no mention of the card being trimmed or at least suspected of being trimmed. Nat Turner is the CEO of Collectors Universe which owns PSA. Thanks to auburn35 for tracking this down. ![]() ![]() Quote:
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Last edited by corndog; 07-02-2023 at 06:04 AM. |
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#565 |
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Join Date: Dec 2012
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How do his card keep passing PSA inspection?
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Join Date: Jun 2019
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Plenty of nice raw examples of this card on eBay with good eye appeal that are going for about $8-$12. Or you can buy the deluxe trimmed edition for a cool $1020.
I remember when grading caught on in the mid/late 90s, I thought it would be good for the hobby. I realize now it has only made the problem of altered cards 20X worse. Now nothing is off-limits to the card doctors, including poor ole Dick Farrell. Quote:
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All Added to the Altered Card Database
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#570 |
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Combination of being unsurprised and desensitized by those who find this stuff unsavory and the standard “nothing to see here” look away by those in the club.
Akin to a news story about a politician taking money/favors to vote a certain way.
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#571 |
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Pretty much sums it up. Just more of the same. This type of stuff is just part of the industry now and so prevalent that it is commonplace. Used to be the exception to the norm. Not any longer.
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Showing true colors.
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#573 |
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Join Date: Jan 2017
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I asked this question a while ago....while the trimming/altering, etc. is being posted here and is known now throughout the industry....have there really been any repercussions? Seems like all of this just falls on deaf ears....
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#574 |
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Join Date: Mar 2011
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Not looking good but I'm hoping those "deaf ears" will eventually hear and do something with all the info provided.
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#575 |
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Join Date: Dec 2018
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Opportunists are already of the complete mindset to increase sales, not decrease them and so they’re already heavily inclined to ignore these if not outright dispute them to begin with.
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