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Old 10-23-2022, 11:59 AM   #551
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Old 10-23-2022, 12:51 PM   #552
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1) Still trimming.
2) Still submitting to PSA.
3) Still getting number grades back from PSA.

Nat, I thought you were going to turn this company around?
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With all the changes to his eBay accounts and selling outlets, would be interesting to know if he's also had to alter his PSA submissions, since being outed? Still submitting and grading under his name?
PSA could at least deactivate the cert numbers on the cards that are obviously altered. But everyone knows they won't do anything like that.

I have checked on a few of the other cards he has and they are also trimmed.

As usual with Libersher, he trims practically everything he has listed.
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Old 10-25-2022, 04:04 AM   #553
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*This trimmed card is in a current live auction by Greg Libersher under a secondary Ebay ID
that he created after being outed on the Blowout Forum as a card doctor.
His Ebay selling ID is now goosescards.


Ebay link: https://www.ebay.com/itm/40394900909...QAAOSwP8xjUEbJ

Raw card to PSA 9

PSA Cert #62795488

1966 Topps Checklist (small print) #183

Value gain of $TBD

PSA Set Registry: none found

This card was purchased by masked buyer ID g***r (Greg Libersher) from Ebay seller gregmorriscards as a raw card for $51.00 on January 21, 2021.

Card is being sold in a live auction by Ebay seller goosescards (Greg Libersher) as a PSA 9 for $TBD on October 29, 2022.

Yellow circles are print, fiber, stain or chipping identifiers.
Red box identifies trimmed right edge.






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Old 10-25-2022, 09:19 AM   #554
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*This trimmed card is in a current live auction by Greg Libersher under a secondary Ebay ID
that he created after being outed on the Blowout Forum as a card doctor.
His Ebay selling ID is now goosescards.
Typical, card molesting cochroach.
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Old 10-25-2022, 11:36 AM   #555
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With all the changes to his eBay accounts and selling outlets, would be interesting to know if he's also had to alter his PSA submissions, since being outed? Still submitting and grading under his name?
Only thing we know for certain is that PSA is still not able to detect his and others' trimmed cards.
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Old 10-25-2022, 07:20 PM   #556
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Old 12-29-2022, 03:26 PM   #557
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Card trimmer Greg Libersher is still getting cards graded by PSA.

https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_ssn...75.m3561.l2562
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Old 12-29-2022, 11:54 PM   #558
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As PSA/eBay doesn't seem to care, your tracking and research is much appreciated.
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Old 12-30-2022, 03:03 PM   #559
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As PSA/eBay doesn't seem to care, your tracking and research is much appreciated.
Yup. Printing money for those who least deserve it. New id of Goosescards is so fitting.

verb (used with object), goosed, goos·ing.

9) Slang. to poke (a person) between the buttocks to startle.

10) Informal.

a) to prod or urge to action or an emotional reaction: The promise of time off may goose the workers and increase profits.
b) to strengthen or improve (often followed by up): Let's goose up the stew with some wine.
c) to increase; raise (often followed by up): to goose up government loans in weak industries.
d) to give a spurt of fuel to (a motor) to increase speed.
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Old 01-27-2023, 04:57 AM   #560
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*This trimmed card is in a current live auction by Greg Libersher under a secondary Ebay ID
that he created after being outed on the Blowout Forum as a card doctor.
His Ebay selling ID is now goosescards.


Ebay link: https://www.ebay.com/itm/40412381370...4AAOSwo-Fjz524

Raw card to PSA 9

PSA Cert #65286998

1964 Philadelphia #46 Lee Folkins

Value gain of $TBD

PSA Set Registry: none found

This card was purchased by masked buyer ID g***r (Greg Libersher) from Ebay seller gregmorriscards as a raw card for $18.26 on February 05, 2021.

Card is being sold in a live auction by Ebay seller goosescards (Greg Libersher) as a PSA 9 for $TBD on January 25, 2022.

Yellow circles are print, fiber, stain or chipping identifiers.
Red boxes identify trimmed left and right edges. Card had a very slight diamond cut
and Libersher squared the borders up.












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Old 01-27-2023, 05:19 AM   #561
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This one is trimmed and is already at $300.00

Libersher is prolific at trimming.

PSA is prolific at grading his trimmed cards.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/40411723957...sAAOSwIJhjqsMq



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Old 01-27-2023, 07:02 AM   #562
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Old 04-14-2023, 07:25 AM   #563
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*This trimmed card is in a current live auction by Greg Libersher under a secondary Ebay ID
that he created after being outed on the Blowout Forum as a card doctor.
He now sells altered cards under the Ebay selling ID of goosescards.
PSA is still accepting altered card submissions from Libersher.


Ebay link: 1941 Double Play Eddie Joost - 117 / Ernest Koy - 118 PSA 8 NMMT TOUGH!!
https://www.ebay.com/itm/40423292084...Bk9SR4C-x_rvYQ

Raw card to PSA 8

PSA Cert #65939617

1941 Double Play Eddie Joost 117 / Ernest Koy 118

Value gain of $TBD

PSA Set Registry: none found/TBD

This card was purchased by masked buyer ID g***r (Greg Libersher) from Ebay seller gregmorriscards as a raw card for $113.50 on April 04, 2021.

Card is being sold in a live auction by Ebay seller goosescards (Greg Libersher) as a PSA 8 for $TBD on April 13, 2023.

Yellow circles are print, fiber, stain or chipping identifiers.
Red box identifies trimmed left edge (as viewed).








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Old 07-02-2023, 05:48 AM   #564
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The below Greg Libersher trimmed card was outed in April of 2021 and was found to be in Nat Turner's PSA set registry at the time.
The same card was sold by Goldin Auctions in March of 2023 with no mention of the card being trimmed or at least
suspected of being trimmed.
Nat Turner is the CEO of Collectors Universe which owns PSA.
Thanks to auburn35 for tracking this down.






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This card was purchased by Nat Turner from glibersher and is currently in his Set Registry.
https://www.psacard.com/cert/41871661

*This is the 14th vintage Greg Libersher altered card found so far that was given a grade of 10 by PSA.
From the same submission as the cards posted above.


PSA Cert #41871661

1961 Topps Dick Farrell #522

Value gain of $503.00

PSA Set Registry: natsturner

This card was purchased by masked buyer ID g***r (Greg Libersher) from Ebay seller gregmorriscards as a Raw card for $46.00 on July 05, 2018.

Same card was sold by Ebay seller glibersher (Greg Libersher) as a PSA 10 for $549.00 on September 23, 2018.

Yellow circles are print, fiber, stain or chipping identifiers.
Red boxes identify trimmed top and bottom edges.


















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Old 07-02-2023, 07:18 AM   #565
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How do his card keep passing PSA inspection?
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Old 07-02-2023, 07:23 AM   #566
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Plenty of nice raw examples of this card on eBay with good eye appeal that are going for about $8-$12. Or you can buy the deluxe trimmed edition for a cool $1020.

I remember when grading caught on in the mid/late 90s, I thought it would be good for the hobby. I realize now it has only made the problem of altered cards 20X worse. Now nothing is off-limits to the card doctors, including poor ole Dick Farrell.

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The below Greg Libersher trimmed card was outed in April of 2021 and was found to be in Nat Turner's PSA set registry at the time.
The same card was sold by Goldin Auctions in March of 2023 with no mention of the card being trimmed or at least
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Nat Turner is the CEO of Collectors Universe which owns PSA.
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Old 07-08-2023, 02:16 PM   #567
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Old 07-08-2023, 08:51 PM   #568
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The below Greg Libersher trimmed card was outed in April of 2021 and was found to be in Nat Turner's PSA set registry at the time.
The same card was sold by Goldin Auctions in March of 2023 with no mention of the card being trimmed or at least
suspected of being trimmed.
Nat Turner is the CEO of Collectors Universe which owns PSA.
Thanks to auburn35 for tracking this down.
One of probably many Nat has dumped without disclosure through Goldin. Knew from day 1, and posted such, that he was this type of guy.
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One of probably many Nat has dumped without disclosure through Goldin. Knew from day 1, and posted such, that he was this type of guy.
I cannot believe this sort of repeated activity from Nat Turner is not getting more attention.
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Old 07-09-2023, 10:45 AM   #570
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Combination of being unsurprised and desensitized by those who find this stuff unsavory and the standard “nothing to see here” look away by those in the club.
Akin to a news story about a politician taking money/favors to vote a certain way.
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Combination of being unsurprised and desensitized by those who find this stuff unsavory and the standard “nothing to see here” look away by those in the club.
Akin to a news story about a politician taking money/favors to vote a certain way.
Pretty much sums it up. Just more of the same. This type of stuff is just part of the industry now and so prevalent that it is commonplace. Used to be the exception to the norm. Not any longer.
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I cannot believe this sort of repeated activity from Nat Turner is not getting more attention.
There is nothing new under the sun.

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I cannot believe this sort of repeated activity from Nat Turner is not getting more attention.
I asked this question a while ago....while the trimming/altering, etc. is being posted here and is known now throughout the industry....have there really been any repercussions? Seems like all of this just falls on deaf ears....
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I asked this question a while ago....while the trimming/altering, etc. is being posted here and is known now throughout the industry....have there really been any repercussions? Seems like all of this just falls on deaf ears....
Not looking good but I'm hoping those "deaf ears" will eventually hear and do something with all the info provided.
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Combination of being unsurprised and desensitized by those who find this stuff unsavory and the standard “nothing to see here” look away by those in the club.
Akin to a news story about a politician taking money/favors to vote a certain way.
Opportunists are already of the complete mindset to increase sales, not decrease them and so they’re already heavily inclined to ignore these if not outright dispute them to begin with.
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