✹The PERENNIAL Shohei Ohtani Thread✹ - Page 500

redauto5 · 06-24-2023, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by boxbuster7

what card is that? Mini?

Naa, just a refractor /499. Didn't think my hand was that small teehee

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TheGZA · 06-24-2023, 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Rage

This is exactly where I was. Ohtani's market has gotten to the point where pretty much any 2018 card of his is worth getting graded, if it's base than it should be mint or better. My first PSA sub for 2023 was 120 or so various Ohtani base rookies I had from opening product in 2018.
Go for it!

Appreciate the reply. Think I will go for it. Off to the grading section to figure out how to do it

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tconte · 06-24-2023, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by kltomek

Looking for some insight. First time viewing this thread, but looking to get into an Ohtani rookie. What are the thoughts on the chrome update refractor /250 RD? I know it’s not technically the true flagship, but to me it’s the only flagship product (that’s not an so or ssp) showing him hitting.

Hitters always get more hobby love than pitchers, so does the group feeli this RD will continue to have legs in the future?

Sorry if already discussed. Thanks!

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Just wondering, what are considered the flagship rookie cards?

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Qubits · 06-24-2023, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by tconte

Just wondering, what are considered the flagship rookie cards?

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In my opinion? The only flagship rookie is the Series 2 #700.

Others might be inclined to include the Topps Update and maybe the Topps Chrome + Topps Chrome Update.

SumoMenkoMan · 06-24-2023, 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by tconte

Just wondering, what are considered the flagship rookie cards?

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His true rookie is the 2013 BBM First Version #183.

ldunn44 · 06-24-2023, 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by SumoMenkoMan

His true rookie is the 2013 BBM First Version #183.

Word !!! I approved this message

kltomek · 06-24-2023, 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by tconte

Just wondering, what are considered the flagship rookie cards?

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Thanks all for the replies. I’m not sure how to put multiple quotes in one response.

To me, flagships is the Topps, Topps chrome, and Topps chrome update. I guess, typically the first set to have his rookie is the “true” rookie. However, for me the series two and chrome image is terrible. I much prefer the update/chrome update pitching image. However, the update/chrome update RD card is the only of all of the products with him hitting (well I guess there is the 3 homer streak, but again I prefer the RD image). Hitting images just seem to be more desirable overall as do hitters overall.

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Hellcat · 06-24-2023, 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by SumoMenkoMan

His true rookie is the 2013 BBM First Version #183.

His true rookie is his first year in the majors thus 2018 a plethora to choose from.

Trueblue · 06-24-2023, 10:35 PM

Whether you like it or not, S2 image is his legitimate first Topps card. It will have more security than any other card simply because of that fact. If you want to buy other stuff, you should do so, but you can't credibly substantiate excuses that the #700 isn't the most relevant card.

ThoseBackPages · 06-24-2023, 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Trueblue

Whether you like it or not, S2 image is his legitimate first Topps card. It will have more security than any other card simply because of that fact. If you want to buy other stuff, you should do so, but you can't credibly substantiate excuses that the #700 isn't the most relevant card.

The Man has spoken.

2018 Flagship S2 wax is EPIC

Acuna and Ohtani Rookie Cards!

Trueblue · 06-24-2023, 10:42 PM

Also, I don't think people that claim Ohtani's main rookie card is his BBM are wrong, but that's his J-league rookie card. Like Ichiro, the Japan cards are seen as an extension of his collecting but nobody is trying to pedal those Ichiro Orix cards as the only legitimate option. Both of them became a world sensation from what was done in MLB, not J-league. People will try to pump anything.

ldunn44 · 06-24-2023, 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Trueblue

Also, I don't think people that claim Ohtani's main rookie card is his BBM are wrong, but that's his J-league rookie card. Like Ichiro, the Japan cards are seen as an extension of his collecting but nobody is trying to pedal those Ichiro Orix cards as the only legitimate option. Both of them became a world sensation from what was done in MLB, not J-league. People will try to pump anything.

No pump sir

rookie
[ rook-ee ]
See synonyms for rookie on Thesaurus.com
noun

an athlete playing their first season as a member of a professional sports team

The Hokkaido Nippon-Ham Fighters (北海道日本ハムファイターズ, Hokkaidō Nippon-Hamu Faitāzu) are a Japanese professional baseball team based in Kitahiroshima, Hokkaidō. They compete in the Pacific League of Nippon Professional

Trueblue · 06-24-2023, 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by ldunn44

No pump sir

rookie

[ rook-ee ]

See synonyms for rookie on Thesaurus.com

noun

an athlete playing their first season as a member of a professional sports team

The Hokkaido Nippon-Ham Fighters (北海道日本ハムファイターズ, Hokkaidō Nippon-Hamu Faitāzu) are a Japanese professional baseball team based in Kitahiroshima, Hokkaidō. They compete in the Pacific League of Nippon Professional

If you read the first sentence of what I wrote, I said I didn't think people claiming the BBM as his rookie card are wrong.

What I'm saying is ridiculous is people claiming that this is his only legitimate rookie and it should be collected over Topps because it came first. Ichiro is a prime example of how that doesn't hold true. If you felt the need to get defensive over that with a dictionary definition, I don't know what to tell you.

ldunn44 · 06-24-2023, 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Trueblue

If you read the first sentence of what I wrote, I said I didn't think people claiming the BBM as his rookie card are wrong.

What I'm saying is ridiculous is people claiming that this is his only legitimate rookie and it should be collected over Topps because it came first. Ichiro is a prime example of how that doesn't hold true. If you felt the need to get defensive over that with a dictionary definition, I don't know what to tell you.

I'm not in defensive at all

I have 2013 and 2018 in my PC

Vdm2018 · 06-25-2023, 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by ldunn44

No pump sir

rookie
[ rook-ee ]
See synonyms for rookie on Thesaurus.com
noun

an athlete playing their first season as a member of a professional sports team

The Hokkaido Nippon-Ham Fighters (北海道日本ハムファイターズ, Hokkaidō Nippon-Hamu Faitāzu) are a Japanese professional baseball team based in Kitahiroshima, Hokkaidō. They compete in the Pacific League of Nippon Professional

Weird flex

Hellcat · 06-25-2023, 05:11 AM

Guys nobody cares what he did before the majors thus his TRUE rookie cards are 2018. If he never made it to the majors and did what he has done nobody would care thus 2018 is THE year to collect his TRUE rookie cards.

Stifle · 06-25-2023, 06:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Hellcat

Guys nobody cares what he did before the majors thus his TRUE rookie cards are 2018. If he never made it to the majors and did what he has done nobody would care thus 2018 is THE year to collect his TRUE rookie cards.

If that is the case, you may want to check the prices of Brock Lesnar Vikings cards, Dwayne Johnson Miami Hurricanes, Kurt Warner Iowa Barnstormers, etc. Just because a card isn’t mainstream doesn’t devalue the collectability. If you had any of those fore mentioned cards, would you treat them as non-caring and toss them into a common box? I doubt it.

hammertime · 06-25-2023, 07:31 AM

This thread has taken another weird turn. Anyway an UD kanji auto went for $18k last night. Seems pretty solid.

Stifle · 06-25-2023, 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by hammertime

This thread has taken another weird turn. Anyway an UD kanji auto went for $18k last night. Seems pretty solid.

Sometimes, when honesty collides with reality, it can be weird.

$18 K, that is some nice gelb !

Ra3 · 06-25-2023, 08:09 AM

What product did the UD kanji autos come out of…? Was that 2018 goodwin and were they redemptions?

The_Reverend · 06-25-2023, 08:38 AM

I have the #700 in PSA 10, but in all actuality, any RC Ohtani cards are great pickups, from low to high end. There is an entry point for everyone, but his raw stuff is definitely going up.

HunterConnorMom · 06-25-2023, 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Ra3

What product did the UD kanji autos come out of…? Was that 2018 goodwin and were they redemptions?

For topps, bowman and finest. Kanji autos in those products were extremely limited. Have only seen 3 total (1 bowman and 2 finest).

For UD, yes Goodwin but thought they were live but not 100% sure.

Qubits · 06-25-2023, 08:41 AM

Anyone else see the BGS 10 Camo #700 that sold on Ebay this week?

If so does anyone else think that a 10 grade with those corners is a bit absurd?

The corners on that card look about as bad as my PSA 9.

ldunn44 · 06-25-2023, 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Vdm2018

Weird flex

No flex Sir

people are too sensitive these days

KhalDrogo · 06-25-2023, 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Qubits

Anyone else see the BGS 10 Camo #700 that sold on Ebay this week?

If so does anyone else think that a 10 grade with those corners is a bit absurd?

The corners on that card look about as bad as my PSA 9.

That’s BGS for you. Pristine with a white corner. The market treats those cards accordingly though. Just like a poorly centered PSA 10.

06-24-2023, 10:35 PM	#12484
Trueblue Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: socal Posts: 6,891	Whether you like it or not, S2 image is his legitimate first Topps card. It will have more security than any other card simply because of that fact. If you want to buy other stuff, you should do so, but you can't credibly substantiate excuses that the #700 isn't the most relevant card.

06-24-2023, 10:42 PM	#12486
Trueblue Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: socal Posts: 6,891	Also, I don't think people that claim Ohtani's main rookie card is his BBM are wrong, but that's his J-league rookie card. Like Ichiro, the Japan cards are seen as an extension of his collecting but nobody is trying to pedal those Ichiro Orix cards as the only legitimate option. Both of them became a world sensation from what was done in MLB, not J-league. People will try to pump anything.

06-25-2023, 05:11 AM	#12491
Hellcat Member Join Date: Aug 2020 Posts: 2,436	Guys nobody cares what he did before the majors thus his TRUE rookie cards are 2018. If he never made it to the majors and did what he has done nobody would care thus 2018 is THE year to collect his TRUE rookie cards.

06-25-2023, 07:31 AM	#12493
hammertime Member Join Date: May 2020 Location: OH->MI->MD->VA Posts: 6,956	This thread has taken another weird turn. Anyway an UD kanji auto went for $18k last night. Seems pretty solid.

06-25-2023, 08:09 AM	#12495
Ra3 Member Join Date: Oct 2019 Posts: 822	What product did the UD kanji autos come out of…? Was that 2018 goodwin and were they redemptions?

06-25-2023, 08:38 AM	#12496
The_Reverend Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Texas Posts: 15,498 islubi	I have the #700 in PSA 10, but in all actuality, any RC Ohtani cards are great pickups, from low to high end. There is an entry point for everyone, but his raw stuff is definitely going up.

06-25-2023, 08:41 AM	#12498
Qubits Member Join Date: Mar 2023 Location: South Carolina Posts: 846	Anyone else see the BGS 10 Camo #700 that sold on Ebay this week? If so does anyone else think that a 10 grade with those corners is a bit absurd? The corners on that card look about as bad as my PSA 9.