First Buzz: 2022-23 Bowman University Best basketball cards

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[ninjacookies]

...and so it begins...

Slenderman's gonna have more sigs than Charlie Hustle before NBA products even drop.

[boxbuster7]

I was going to say. Fanatics going to overprint the hell out of him.

[90skid]

I'm gonna hold out for the one that he signs "my hand hurts" or perhaps "this is the 10,000th card I've signed"

[coltsnsox07]

Waiting for Bowman University......Transcendent!!!

[dunkindutchmen]

wtf is this? We have enough Bowman U.

[byronscott4ever]

Fanatics didn’t take long to figure out how to capitalize

[WaiverWire]

Originally Posted by coltsnsox07

Waiting for Bowman University......Transcendent!!!

Then Bowman University Mega Deluxo

[nothinbefore]

this is one way to make basketball collectors go after the 1st true bowman auto chrome

instead of buying up everything else

[jdhaugh11]

Originally Posted by dunkindutchmen

wtf is this? We have enough Bowman U.

While this is very true, Wemby does have a base card this time, which also means parallels.
Also boxes of this are cheaper than the first 2 products. I got an 8 box case for $775, which works out to be $96.88 a box.

[Digerati]

Is this WordArt cheap looking crap what we have to look forward to? This can NOT be the work of a design department. This is what one old guy out of touch guy puts together in his basement on the weekend.

[jdhaugh11]

There are some positives for this product:
1) Box price is cheaper
2) Wembanyama has base & parallels for 1st time
3) Hobby exclusive, so lower print run for each base
4) Dual & Triple autos along with printing plate autos that add some value
5) There is a chance that Wembanyama autos could be live in this product (maybe wishful thinking)
6) Auto checklist is a little smaller
7) Easier to make Refractor set

There are however several negatives:
1) Not as collected as Chrome
2) Now the 3rd product with similar checklist in a short amount of time
3) Fewer cards per box compared to Chrome
4) Won't have any 1st card labels
5) Harder to make insert sets

There are obviously other negatives, but I am doing more of a comparison to Chrome.

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[ricebellypanda]

Is Cavinder Twins being in this a positive or negative? :P

[jdhaugh11]

Originally Posted by ricebellypanda

Is Cavinder Twins being in this a positive or negative? :P

I totally missed that on the checklist.
I would say it helps, they are much more valuable than many names, at least in the short term.

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[Joshi City]

Originally Posted by jdhaugh11

There are some positives for this product:
1) Box price is cheaper
2) Wembanyama has base & parallels for 1st time
3) Hobby exclusive, so lower print run for each base
4) Dual & Triple autos along with printing plate autos that add some value
5) There is a chance that Wembanyama autos could be live in this product (maybe wishful thinking)
6) Auto checklist is a little smaller
7) Easier to make Refractor set

There are however several negatives:
1) Not as collected as Chrome
2) Now the 3rd product with similar checklist in a short amount of time
3) Fewer cards per box compared to Chrome
4) Won't have any 1st card labels
5) Harder to make insert sets

There are obviously other negatives, but I am doing more of a comparison to Chrome.

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Another thing we don't now for sure yet but is possible, is the Chrome Wemby autos may be on card, and these may be stickers. Being live would be a big deal though, especially if the Chrome redemptions don't start shipping in the next week or two.

[jdhaugh11]

Originally Posted by Joshi City

Another thing we don't now for sure yet but is possible, is the Chrome Wemby autos may be on card, and these may be stickers. Being live would be a big deal though, especially if the Chrome redemptions don't start shipping in the next week or two.

Good point, I could totally see these being sticker autos

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[Hail2TheVictors]

For chrome u topps couldn’t get wemby a base non auto. For this they didn’t put him in the insert sets.

I know that some would say this isn’t a big deal, but it’s easy added value left out for who knows what reason.

I swear topps needs to hire someone with half a brain that can advise on checklists. Who to put in the product, who should be in the insert sets, etc

The end result is always incredibly lazy, and it really wouldn’t be tough to change that

[jdhaugh11]

Originally Posted by Hail2TheVictors

For chrome u topps couldn’t get wemby a base non auto. For this they didn’t put him in the insert sets.

I know that some would say this isn’t a big deal, but it’s easy added value left out for who knows what reason.

I swear topps needs to hire someone with half a brain that can advise on checklists. Who to put in the product, who should be in the insert sets, etc

The end result is always incredibly lazy, and it really wouldn’t be tough to change that

I think it's a calculated slow roll by Topps. They have done this for year with Star Wars cards. They add a new bit signer ever 6 months, rather than all at once, so we as consumers keep buying. Sure the initial set would be massive, but this way, all sets will sell well. I guess I can't completely blame them.

[DrSatanicus]

Originally Posted by jdhaugh11

Good point, I could totally see these being sticker autos

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Was the big photo in the OP of a sticker auto your first clue to being totally able to see these will be sticker autos?

[jdhaugh11]

Originally Posted by DrSatanicus

Was the big photo in the OP of a sticker auto your first clue to being totally able to see these will be sticker autos?

LOL Duh!

[Peachcardsatl]

Not sure if accurate but it appears based on the checklist that wemby will also have base numbered cards (which would be the first for any of the Bowman products - only been for autos so far). The first Cavinder twin cards are also interesting (saw they may become WWE stars following college)

[jdhaugh11]

The checklist counts & parallels matchup almost exactly with the football product.
The football product had about 68,795 boxes or 8,599 cases made.
This is a hobby exclusive unlike the Chrome product, so the base cards will have a print run of about 22,490.
You will get about 262 base cards per case, so you will hopefully be able to make 2 complete sets or get 2 or 3 Wemby base cards.
You will get 96 refractors in a case, so you will nearly make the set, meaning almost all cases will have a Wemby Refractor. The print run of refractors will be around 8,255.
You will get about 24 base parallels per case, so about 1 in 4 cases will have a speckle refractor or better of Wemby.
If Wemby has the same number of autos as everyone else (this is a big if), then you have an 18.7% of pulling a Wemby auto per case.

Overall in an average case you can expect to get a total of 4 Wemby cards.
It might just be 3 base & 1 refractor of course.

[jdhaugh11]

Insert sets will be difficult to make.
Only the Hardwood Warriors insert set can be made with 1 case.

You will come a few short for the Flashing Lights & Neon Neophytes insert sets,
& you will get less than half the set for the Bowman Masterpieces & Buckets Die-Cut insert sets.

[bustsomewax]

Not sure this will be a desired set to be honest. Would like to see a few breaks before diving in.

[jdhaugh11]

Originally Posted by bustsomewax

Not sure this will be a desired set to be honest. Would like to see a few breaks before diving in.

For many of the cards probably not & long term probably not, but the first Wemby cards & parallels will sell really well out of the gate.
Also autos of Clark & a few others will do well, along with low numbered stuff.

You have to look at the cost of this product compared to the box value. For about $100 a box, this is pretty good product IMO.