The absurdity of ebay's authenticity guarantee

[shrevecity]

Originally Posted by jamcas997

Ok , so this was and auto relic card for $1000. If I sent it to them for grading then this would not be graded by them , because they couldn't do what they just sent in the message?

You would be paying for a different service.

The buyer being a watcher or not is 100% irrelevant...

[jamcas997]

Originally Posted by shrevecity

You would be paying for a different service.

The buyer being a watcher or not is 100% irrelevant...

Was a side note on it was happy about the price I got along with the fact it is on the way to the buyer, but the little blurb they include threw me off.

[shrevecity]

Originally Posted by jamcas997

Was a side note on it was happy about the price I got along with the fact it is on the way to the buyer, but the little blurb they include threw me off.

Probably because its a leaf product. they put that on there.

[KhalDrogo]

They put that disclaimer for all relics. They are saying the relic could have been swapped, and they don’t authenticate that part of the card. It’s a poorly worded statement because it makes it seem like the aftermarket part applies to the auto and relic.

[Bassman2014]

Is there a setting or specific detail that triggers the Authenticity Guarantee for Raw cards? I'm trying to list a card well over the limit, but no matter how I have the settings it doesn't add the Guarantee. It's been added automatically to every other card I've listed over the minimum, but not this one. I would prefer to have it. For reference it's a Heritage Red Ink Auto.

Thank you

[shrevecity]

Originally Posted by Bassman2014

Is there a setting or specific detail that triggers the Authenticity Guarantee for Raw cards? I'm trying to list a card well over the limit, but no matter how I have the settings it doesn't add the Guarantee. It's been added automatically to every other card I've listed over the minimum, but not this one. I would prefer to have it. For reference it's a Heritage Red Ink Auto.

Thank you

Category?

[Bassman2014]

Originally Posted by shrevecity

Category?

Trading card singles.

I even did a sell similar to another raw card I had listed with the guarantee and it turned it off when I updated the details.

Could it be because it's an auto?

[KhalDrogo]

Originally Posted by Bassman2014

Is there a setting or specific detail that triggers the Authenticity Guarantee for Raw cards? I'm trying to list a card well over the limit, but no matter how I have the settings it doesn't add the Guarantee. It's been added automatically to every other card I've listed over the minimum, but not this one. I would prefer to have it. For reference it's a Heritage Red Ink Auto.

Thank you

Your Tatis has it. I assume it’s a different Heritage Red you’re trying to list?

[zworykin]

Originally Posted by Bassman2014

Trading card singles.

I even did a sell similar to another raw card I had listed with the guarantee and it turned it off when I updated the details.

Could it be because it's an auto?

No, autos go to AG all the time.

Are you using any of the magic words in the title? I don't know of a complete list, but things like 'box' or 'pack' or 'lot' get caught by the filter.

[Bassman2014]

Originally Posted by KhalDrogo

Your Tatis has it. I assume it’s a different Heritage Red you’re trying to list?

It was the Tatis.

After 45 minutes on the phone with Ebay and they couldn't diagnose the problem, I just started messing around with the title and specifics. Turns out having "Red Ink" in the title was the difference, I removed that now it qualifies.

[DynaEtch]

Completely get where you’re coming from as a seller- given the choice to have a high end card be listed with AG vs no AG, I’m going AG all day. Cuts through the possible shenanigans.

It’s curious why they are blocking red ink. After playing around with search listings, some observations

-Graded cards with red ink in title still get AG. It’s just raw cards with red ink that are barred.
-Its not just red ink, but blue ink, silver ink, etc.

So ink is why they block it. Why are they blocking ink? And just for raw cards? There are a slew of raw card listings that should be going to AG but aren’t because they have ink in title.

[shrevecity]

.ay have something to do with ink being a word that the bots pick up because it is a term that could be used for aftermarket autos

[DynaEtch]

Question:

Anyone know what ebay authenticity does for sealed (encased) cards, that are in a toploader with manufacturer's seal on it (Panini, Rittenhouse, etc). Has anyone went through this with AG as either the buyer or seller?

Which of the 3 does AG do?

1. Pass the card without opening the seal card or removing from toploader
2. Pass the card while opening the seal and removing the card
3. Dont authenticate it but send it on to the buyer as miscategorized, in its case.

Im hoping it's not 2, but just wanted to check, thanks.

[jamcas997]

So a card that was rejected by CSG 2 months ago because they stated did not meet description and was not nrmt just received a GRADE FROM SGC of 9 with 10 on auto. CSG can stick it!

[DynaEtch]

I am having multiple raw cards sitting at CSG authentication in Sarasota with no updates for days.

Im assuming it's related to the hurricane situation.

[jamcas997]

Originally Posted by DynaEtch

I am having multiple raw cards sitting at CSG authentication in Sarasota with no updates for days.

Im assuming it's related to the hurricane situation.

That could be big yes on that one. Huge storm surge in the area and they are on the coast.

[wiper]

Originally Posted by DynaEtch

I am having multiple raw cards sitting at CSG authentication in Sarasota

you better hope they’re sitting, might be flying.

[DynaEtch]

CGC posted an update today on their grading website, there was no damage to any of their buildings or to collectibles kept in their vaults.

Says they have been closed since Tuesday, and will reopen tomorrow on Thursday. Although this is about the grading company CGC, I assume this applies to ebay authentication services down there as well.

Surprised ebay doesnt even message anything about it, no one iota, unless I missed it...have to go onto the CGC page to figure more out.

[worldtravel00]

I had few items purchased last few days that should go through authenticity program. But the cards did not go through authenticity check by either CSG/PSA. Are you encountering these issues?

[DynaEtch]

Originally Posted by worldtravel00

I had few items purchased last few days that should go through authenticity program. But the cards did not go through authenticity check by either CSG/PSA. Are you encountering these issues?

Was the blue authenticity guarantee checkmark actually on the listings. Many things can make a listing exempt.

[rwperu34]

I had a graded card go to Florida. They sent it along to the buyer as miscategorized. The buyer opened a return, but was very good at communicating the whole way through. I contacted eBay to see what went wrong. They admitted it was a mistake and they'd try and find the glitch in the system and gave me a $10 coupon to help offset the extra shipping cost.

The buyer had said they were going to repurchase the card once they got their refund, which they did. The card is now on the way to the proper authenticator.

[DynaEtch]

Originally Posted by rwperu34

I had a graded card go to Florida. They sent it along to the buyer as miscategorized. The buyer opened a return, but was very good at communicating the whole way through. I contacted eBay to see what went wrong. They admitted it was a mistake and they'd try and find the glitch in the system and gave me a $10 coupon to help offset the extra shipping cost.

The buyer had said they were going to repurchase the card once they got their refund, which they did. The card is now on the way to the proper authenticator.

There was that small window when eBay changed the way cards were listed (used to be you select new or used and then graded in item details, now at first you select graded/ungraded and select condition). I assume the time the graded went to FL by mistake was during that small window.

[worldtravel00]

Originally Posted by DynaEtch

Was the blue authenticity guarantee checkmark actually on the listings. Many things can make a listing exempt.

Listings definitely had the authenticity guarantee checkmark.

[KhalDrogo]

Originally Posted by worldtravel00

Listings definitely had the authenticity guarantee checkmark.

Were you having the items shipped to a PO Box or international address?

[DynaEtch]

Originally Posted by worldtravel00

Listings definitely had the authenticity guarantee checkmark.

What did tracking look like? Item sent directly from seller to you, or went through authenticator but was passed on to you without the check because it was miscategorized.

If the former, there will be a reason such as it being sent to a PO Box as mentioned.

If the latter, there are also reasons, since some items don’t get authenticated (lots, sketches, etc).

An outside chance is if you bought multiple items from a seller, some requiring AG and some not, and they didn’t understand the authenticity guarantee thing, it’s possible they saw the shipping address for the one not going, and just put all the cards into the package going direct to you (you’d think eBay would have easy preventative measures for this though such as not being able to upload the same tracking to both).

In any case, cards don’t just bypass eBay AG at random. There is a reason. Most likely a PO Box.