Why do people buy altered cards???

[mindcycle]

Originally Posted by auburn35

Odd strategy for sure.

Now we wait and see what the new owner will do with the Lebron.

Yeah, typically these don't seem to be held on to for all that long before being re-holdered or resold.

[Ken735i]

I personally enjoy my Mikan wheaties altered cards. I would like to meet the young man who took the time to hand cut and, in pencil, add George mikans stats to the blank back in 1952ish

Totally different when trimming, coloring a pmg, or patch swap exquisites. They suck

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[Yankees2020]

Because they lack common sense? Is that ok to say?

[Deadshot]

Yeah the Mikan is a little different. I have this Dr. J rookie that I like to call the "Update" version

[GOATcards]

i'd buy an altered wagner for a buck fiddy

[ChoChoRes]

Originally Posted by GOATcards

i'd buy an altered wagner for a buck fiddy

I would pay $4.75 for one.

[corndog]

Originally Posted by Deadshot

Yeah the Mikan is a little different. I have this Dr. J rookie that I like to call the "Update" version

That card is AWESOME!

I think I may start looking out for these types of "Update" cards myself.

[Stifle]

Originally Posted by Inferno

All of this. You could argue whoever buys this could be the truest of collectors, willing to overlook the alteration(s) to jump at what might be their last chance to own a real LeBron RPA at a fraction of the going rate for an unaltered one.

Collectors collect. There are amazing fakes of famous paintings that are shown in art galleries. Art has been around much longer than sports cards and have a longer history of tracing its authenticity. Yet, the art world allows fakes to be shown because these works were created by people who created works that were amazing. Now with that said, if the card company created the copy and it’s altered by a source other than the company then in my opinion it should lose some value.

Some collectors prefer the value of pack pulled cards versus back doored. How about the bigger shows where a company like Playoff would set up at the show and stamp a card when a pack or box was purchased at their booth. Having the Company that creates the card would be like having a 98 Playoff 7-Eleven stamped card that had a very small availability for being purchased as is a show stamped card.

[TawkCards]

Originally Posted by Deadshot

Yeah the Mikan is a little different. I have this Dr. J rookie that I like to call the "Update" version

nice! that is a conversation starter. I might start buying some Prizm baseball and making some "updates", maybe I can cash out in 50 or 60 years.

I would buy an altered card for a PC player if was about 50% or so off the raw cost and not too high dollar.

[discodanman45]

Sometimes you don't care if someone alters a card. Not basketball, but I think a few people wouldn't having this in their PC.

[auburn35]

This Lebron is back up for sale (hoping for a playoff bump?) and again, the damage not mentioned in the description.

https://goldin.co/item/2003-04-upper...bron-jameuwv7a

[GOATcards]

Originally Posted by auburn35

This Lebron is back up for sale (hoping for a playoff bump?) and again, the damage not mentioned in the description.

https://goldin.co/item/2003-04-upper...bron-jameuwv7a

not the sort of thing mentioned in the Goldin netflix show huh?

[Gidtheson]

Originally Posted by auburn35

This Lebron is back up for sale (hoping for a playoff bump?) and again, the damage not mentioned in the description.

https://goldin.co/item/2003-04-upper...bron-jameuwv7a

And Goldin makes $50k every time they touch it, commission both ways.

[DaBears1985]

He will probably crack it from the slab and sell it so some guy for $375,000

[auburn35]

Those familiar might recognize the numbering but another of the Lebron cards (74/99) identified in the always educational, LeBron Exquisite /99 - altered & damaged thread was sold yesterday, via Heritage.

https://sports.ha.com/itm/basketball...ription-071515

Of course there was no mention of the history in the description, so it's possible the bidders weren't aware but it will be interesting to see what happens with this sale. Like the 42/99 from the OP, will we see a cross to PSA (other) and quick flip attempt?

Looks like the original photo link is down but here's a good recap from the closed thread.
https://www.blowoutforums.com/showpo...postcount=1382

[Stifle]

I have auto card of Weeb Ewbank where the card company misspelled his name, Weeb Eubank. The “u” has a “w” over it that I’m 100% sure that Weeb had altered the card to have his name spelled correctly. It’s my all time favorite altered card. I don’t like altered cards but it’s tough to consider that a altered card but it meets the criteria.

Has anybody else had the signer alter a misspelling thus creating a altered card?

[CableRock]

Originally Posted by Ken735i

I personally enjoy my Mikan wheaties altered cards. I would like to meet the young man who took the time to hand cut and, in pencil, add George mikans stats to the blank back in 1952ish

Totally different when trimming, coloring a pmg, or patch swap exquisites. They suck

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Any chance you can resize this a little bigger? I can't quite make out the details.

[auburn35]

This Lebron is back up for sale, this time with a note about the message board discussion (altered Lebron thread?) and that Beckett stands by their grading.


https://sports.ha.com/itm/basketball...ription-071515

The "B" in Lebron is still missing the same chunk of the surface but the edges somehow repaired, without alteration?

Some photos from previous owner, who shared them in the altered Lebron thread.

Originally Posted by auburn35

Those familiar might recognize the numbering but another of the Lebron cards (74/99) identified in the always educational, LeBron Exquisite /99 - altered & damaged thread was sold yesterday, via Heritage.

https://sports.ha.com/itm/basketball...ription-071515

Of course there was no mention of the history in the description, so it's possible the bidders weren't aware but it will be interesting to see what happens with this sale. Like the 42/99 from the OP, will we see a cross to PSA (other) and quick flip attempt?

Looks like the original photo link is down but here's a good recap from the closed thread.
https://www.blowoutforums.com/showpo...postcount=1382

[r338]

It is crazy Beckett and Goldin are still taking that stance. Especially in light of the before and after pictures.

[Asian62150]

What's their official stance? That the card has never been altered? Or are they just sticking their heads in the sand and saying the card in its current form is a "9?"

[auburn35]

Originally Posted by Asian62150

What's their official stance? That the card has never been altered? Or are they just sticking their heads in the sand and saying the card in its current form is a "9?"

I forgot, but after the main Lebron thread was locked , this card was briefly listed on pwcc and it was mentioned a letter from Beckett was issued.
Not sure if anyone has a copy of that letter, but assuming it's similar to the other Beckett reviewed letters, it likely says the grading "opinion" is accurate and the card is unaltered.

Another good thread to reference.
https://www.blowoutforums.com/showthread.php?t=1375343

Originally Posted by 3124508 on COMC

Buyer beware.

BGS Letter = Trimmed Card

Read here for more info: https://www.blowoutforums.com/showthread.php?t=1255123

https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/vault-marketplace/3471

[kingofsnake]

The ghost of Eric Bitz

[bmf]

Originally Posted by Hellcat

Careful men PSA Authentic can mean Altered also. Look up PSA’s definition of an Authentic slab very cloudy by their standards Buyer Beware!

Originally Posted by Hellcat

…if the PSA slab just says Authentic that doesn’t excuse it from being Altered very dangerous make sure you do your homework.

Good advice but I still think a lot of people don’t know this. Why does PSA even have separate “Authentic” and “Authentic Altered” designations if “Authentic” can also mean altered?