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Old 02-27-2023, 08:36 PM   #351
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Ripped a case. Couple thoughts:
-Quality of ray waves is atrocious. Massive print lines on almost all
- Expose are hard to hit. I hit two in my case. One base, one to /99
- collation on youthquake was almost perfect. Need one more for complete set (Kirby)
- I hit $200 in buybacks
- borrrrrrring rip.
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Old 02-27-2023, 08:52 PM   #352
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Ripped a case. Couple thoughts:
-Quality of ray waves is atrocious. Massive print lines on almost all
- Expose are hard to hit. I hit two in my case. One base, one to /99
- collation on youthquake was almost perfect. Need one more for complete set (Kirby)
- I hit $200 in buybacks
- borrrrrrring rip.
That confirms my experience based on 8 boxes worth of breaks I've e been in. Bad print lines on ray waves, bad chipping on edges of base cards and loaded with MVP chases. I think every box had at least 1 Judge or Goldy but $650 worth of MVP over 8 boxes I watched get ripped. If you buy Yankees or Cards spot in a break you're printing money.

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Old 02-27-2023, 10:26 PM   #353
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That confirms my experience based on 8 boxes worth of breaks I've e been in. Bad print lines on ray waves, bad chipping on edges of base cards and loaded with MVP chases. I think every box had at least 1 Judge or Goldy but $650 worth of MVP over 8 boxes I watched get ripped. If you buy Yankees or Cards spot in a break you're printing money.

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That is definitely not true....

Obviously it all depends, but I opened a full 16 box case and got 2 Judge and 5 Goldschmidt base in the entire thing. No parallels of any kind. I don't think even hit a Judge until box 10.
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Old 02-28-2023, 01:32 PM   #354
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Buddy pulled this red /5 last night and he's looking to sell it.

Any idea on value? Was thinking $3-5k?

Some of the reds are all over the place.



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Old 02-28-2023, 01:47 PM   #355
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Buddy pulled this red /5 last night and he's looking to sell it.

Any idea on value? Was thinking $3-5k?

Some of the reds are all over the place.



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Sapphire red /5 sold on ebay in December for $12.5k. Ben Baller red /5 sold for $595 on Feb 26. So I'd say somewhere between those

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Old 02-28-2023, 01:55 PM   #356
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Sapphire red /5 sold on ebay in December for $12.5k. Ben Baller red /5 sold for $595 on Feb 26. So I'd say somewhere between those

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Yeah, feels much more like a $1K card to me than one of the premium /5s. And at auction, probably more like a $500-$750 card.
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Old 02-28-2023, 01:55 PM   #357
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Sapphire red /5 sold on ebay in December for $12.5k. Ben Baller red /5 sold for $595 on Feb 26. So I'd say somewhere between those

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Wow, the disparity between baller and sapphire... Baller seems like a steal for what is basically the same card. Literally 5%...
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Old 02-28-2023, 02:16 PM   #358
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Wow, the disparity between baller and sapphire... Baller seems like a steal for what is basically the same card. Literally 5%...
It is different image so not the same exact card. Baller is a cheaper product too. But honestly all these variations makes it hard to value anything. I still wonder how you price /5 or 1/1 when their are hundreds of those each year in different sets. I am honestly amazed that someone paid 12.5k for a raw Wander in this market even if it was a couple of months ago

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Old 02-28-2023, 02:19 PM   #359
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Sapphire red /5 sold on ebay in December for $12.5k. Ben Baller red /5 sold for $595 on Feb 26. So I'd say somewhere between those

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Wow, the disparity between baller and sapphire... Baller seems like a steal for what is basically the same card. Literally 5%...
Baller might be niche BUT that's an absolute steal of a price (or the Sapphire Red /5 is SIGNIFICANTLY overpriced).
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Old 02-28-2023, 02:20 PM   #360
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Baller Chrome has always been bottom of the barrel
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Old 02-28-2023, 02:27 PM   #361
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Baller Chrome has always been bottom of the barrel
Apparently it is a very deep barrel! Baller chrome way down there at less than 5% of the sapphire.
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Old 02-28-2023, 05:34 PM   #362
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The baller /5 was cheap because it’s the insert.
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Old 03-01-2023, 03:28 AM   #363
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Ripped 3 boxes. Even at my buy-in of $160 shipped for the 3 boxes, it was pretty underwhelming.

Outcome:
- 3 numbered (Shane Baz RC /75 was my best).
- 6 Youthquake (Wander was best)
- Majority of B&W raywave cards were poorly cut
- 1 base Wander RC
- 1 base Goldschmidt

One thing I'll say is that the Sonic parallels look nice (/75 is a nice color match with Tampa Bay and the /199 reminds me of 2020-21 Optic Basketball product).
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Old 03-01-2023, 09:40 AM   #364
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Sapphire red /5 sold on ebay in December for $12.5k. Ben Baller red /5 sold for $595 on Feb 26. So I'd say somewhere between those

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The Wander Sapphire Red sold for 6K and the Baller red was an insert that sold for $595. Not that I think this is worth anywhere near 6k.
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Old 03-01-2023, 09:49 AM   #365
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People are still that high on Wander?
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Old 03-01-2023, 11:35 AM   #366
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People are still that high on Wander?
Honestly there is not a whole lot of reasons not to be. He is younger than JRod and barely behind him in war.
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i am.
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Old 03-01-2023, 11:48 AM   #368
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I am.
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Old 03-01-2023, 11:51 AM   #369
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People are still that high on Wander?
From the hobby perspective, I’m not.

A lot of his stuff peaked during the pandemic pump.

It’s going to be a long road ahead for many people.

There are many other choices out there.
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Old 03-01-2023, 12:00 PM   #370
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From the hobby perspective, I’m not.

A lot of his stuff peaked during the pandemic pump.

It’s going to be a long road ahead for many people.

There are many other choices out there.
From the hobby perspective, I’m not.

A lot of his stuff peaked during the pandemic pump.

It’s going to be a long road ahead for many people.

There are many other choices out there.
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Old 03-01-2023, 12:28 PM   #371
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A lot of his stuff peaked during the pandemic pump.

It’s going to be a long road ahead for many people.

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From the hobby perspective, I’m not.

A lot of his stuff peaked during the pandemic pump.

It’s going to be a long road ahead for many people.

There are many other choices out there.
From the hobby perspective, I’m not.

A lot of his stuff peaked during the pandemic pump.

It’s going to be a long road ahead for many people.

There are many other choices out there.
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Old 03-01-2023, 12:38 PM   #372
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The Wander Sapphire Red sold for 6K and the Baller red was an insert that sold for $595. Not that I think this is worth anywhere near 6k.
That's interesting because if you look at the sale on Ebay it says it sold at auction with one bid for 12.5k
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Old 03-01-2023, 12:43 PM   #373
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From the hobby perspective, I’m not.

A lot of his stuff peaked during the pandemic pump.

It’s going to be a long road ahead for many people.

There are many other choices out there.
LOL, you only need one hot player to drive your 2022 wax prices. Doesn’t have to be Wander.
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Old 03-01-2023, 03:35 PM   #374
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Old 03-01-2023, 04:30 PM   #375
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People are still that high on Wander?
I keep asking the same thing about Witt and Torkelson but I guess people are willing to give guys more then one year before determining they are a bust
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