-card CSG crack 'n cross to PSA - Ouch!

mrgant · 02-23-2023, 12:47 PM

This was rough....

Boostedwrx · 02-23-2023, 01:08 PM

Thanks for sharing results!

Scottish Punk · 02-23-2023, 01:19 PM

The only one I would consider out of expectations was the Parrish. That one graded one grade lower, I would have guessed 7. The topps maddux has a good chance of a 10 on a resub, probably just got the wrong side of coin flip.

The other vintage were one grade lower which is inline with how CSG grades vintage compared to SGC/PSA. They fall in line with BVG grading. At least you did these with green label CSG. They eased things up on modern since going to the black labels.

You got some nice cards! Thanks for sharing, always enjoy cross over results.

BoKnowsCards · 02-23-2023, 01:22 PM

That was a slaughter.

towerymt · 02-23-2023, 01:26 PM

That '56 Jackie...been there done that. Cracked an SGC, PSA rejected, sub'd back to SGC, and they actually bumped it 0.5 the 2nd time.

Looking at the '87 Maddux, I wonder how picky they are. That tiny print flaw just off the tip of his nose. Also looks like in the PSA scan there are white dots showing up, but I don't see it in your photo. Possible minor issue with the gloss / surface quality? Hard to pick up anything else.

Parish. Print 'snow'? PSA scan is pretty bright so it's hard to see if there's any print issue that might have dropped the grade. Looks good for a 6!

PunsRTonsOfFun · 02-23-2023, 01:45 PM

Thanks for sharing. Such a farce that PSA decided a year ago to finally have standards. A year ago, people were routinely cracking green CSG 8.5s and getting PSA 10s.

Moneychrome20 · 02-23-2023, 01:47 PM

Obviously you were looking to purchase.. re slab and make a profit

Oh well next time buy the card you want

BoKnowsCards · 02-23-2023, 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Moneychrome20

Obviously you were looking to purchase.. re slab and make a profit

Oh well next time buy the card you want

I signed up for this forum because I enjoy the exchange of information that happens.

But the downside is their are so many butthurt sellers, like you, trying to take a shot any time someone makes a post. The OP shared his results, when he didn't have to.

Moneychrome20 · 02-23-2023, 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BoKnowsCards

I signed up for this forum because I enjoy the exchange of information that happens.

But the downside is their are so many butthurt sellers, like you, trying to take a shot any time someone makes a post. The OP shared his results, when he didn't have to.

Just because I said what I said doesn’t mean I’m butthurt..I just spoke the truth ?

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metsandweezer · 02-23-2023, 02:12 PM

I’m honestly not shocked by those results. PSA never gives gems on 80’s and 90’s stuff.

larry25 · 02-23-2023, 04:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BoKnowsCards

I signed up for this forum because I enjoy the exchange of information that happens.

But the downside is their are so many butthurt sellers, like you, trying to take a shot any time someone makes a post. The OP shared his results, when he didn't have to.

I agree 100%. I enjoy this space for the most part, mostly reading information, but the handful of times I do comment, I am almost immediately ridiculed and even bullied. This place can be toxic, no question. You can always block the clowns, but in their way they also provide good information, albeit clownish.

RufussCkingston · 02-23-2023, 04:50 PM

Except for the parrish and the N6, pretty much everything is still more valuable in the PSA slabs with the lower grades than in the CSG ones....

towerymt · 02-23-2023, 05:02 PM

The Maddux pair definitely take a hit as 9s.

I just sold a PSA 9 today for nearly double what I paid for a CSG 9 that I cracked & submitted expecting the PSA-9 grade. But I also have a CSG 10 that just failed an actual crossover attempt with PSA, so that's a big miss. Can't win 'em all, but the game is always fun.

anusinha · 02-23-2023, 05:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by metsandweezer

I’m honestly not shocked by those results. PSA never gives gems on 80’s and 90’s stuff.

Yeah, PSA has decided to go thermonuclear on pre 2000 stuff, those grades arent bad.

Theres a PSA 8 Jerry Rice RC up for auction right now in a really old holder, the thing looks trashed, like a PSA 6 right now.

thenightman · 02-23-2023, 05:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Moneychrome20

Obviously you were looking to purchase.. re slab and make a profit

So what if he did? You have a problem with that?

atk825 · 02-23-2023, 07:41 PM

No clear winners but aside from the Jackie which probably has a decent chance of getting a numeric grade at SGC, there's no real losers here

Bosoxfan5990 · 02-23-2023, 08:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by anusinha

Yeah, PSA has decided to go thermonuclear on pre 2000 stuff, those grades arent bad.

Theres a PSA 8 Jerry Rice RC up for auction right now in a really old holder, the thing looks trashed, like a PSA 6 right now.

There was a poster on these boards who had a raw Jerry Rice RC that likely looked better than the PSA 8 you’re referring to.

mrgant · 02-24-2023, 06:51 AM

re scottishpunk: I thought that you could not resub to PSA... that they had some system to know if they saw the card before?

Yeah, I was hoping for a 7 on that Parish.

mrgant · 02-24-2023, 06:52 AM

re moneychrome20: No... all of these were from my PC that I decided to crack and sub to PSA (aside from the topps maddux which I did buy on ebay). I was looking to sell a bunch after the PSA mark.

gmarutiak · 02-24-2023, 08:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thenightman

So what if he did? You have a problem with that?

Totally off topic, but, because of your avatar (probably the wrong word), every time I read one of your posts, I hear it in Charlie's voice. That makes me happy.

I only pull for · 02-24-2023, 08:12 AM

All this shows is the inconsistency at PSA

Please
Submit
Again

Onepocketj · 02-24-2023, 10:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by I only pull for

All this shows is the inconsistency at PSA

Please
Submit
Again

How can you possibly draw that conclusion? How is PSA inconsistent with this sub?

I only pull for · 02-24-2023, 10:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Onepocketj

How can you possibly draw that conclusion? How is PSA inconsistent with this sub?

Maybe it has something to do with so many people complaining and showing it on social media...

It could also do with personal experiences...
Do you think PSA earned the name Please Submit Again for its consistency?

thenightman · 02-24-2023, 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gmarutiak

Totally off topic, but, because of your avatar (probably the wrong word), every time I read one of your posts, I hear it in Charlie's voice. That makes me happy.

That's always ON TOPIC, dude!

Bosoxfan5990 · 02-24-2023, 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gmarutiak

Totally off topic, but, because of your avatar (probably the wrong word), every time I read one of your posts, I hear it in Charlie's voice. That makes me happy.

I've always wondered what thenightman looks like in real life. I assume he's a Charlie Day clone.

02-23-2023, 12:47 PM	#1
mrgant Member Join Date: May 2021 Posts: 112	-card CSG crack 'n cross to PSA - Ouch! This was rough.... Attached Thumbnails

02-24-2023, 06:51 AM	#18
mrgant Member Join Date: May 2021 Posts: 112	re scottishpunk: I thought that you could not resub to PSA... that they had some system to know if they saw the card before? Yeah, I was hoping for a 7 on that Parish. Last edited by mrgant; 02-24-2023 at 06:56 AM.

02-24-2023, 06:52 AM	#19
mrgant Member Join Date: May 2021 Posts: 112	re moneychrome20: No... all of these were from my PC that I decided to crack and sub to PSA (aside from the topps maddux which I did buy on ebay). I was looking to sell a bunch after the PSA mark. Last edited by mrgant; 02-24-2023 at 06:55 AM.

02-23-2023, 01:08 PM	#2
Boostedwrx Member Join Date: Jan 2022 Posts: 273	Thanks for sharing results!

02-23-2023, 01:19 PM	#3
Scottish Punk Member Join Date: May 2013 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 10,116 scottishpunk	The only one I would consider out of expectations was the Parrish. That one graded one grade lower, I would have guessed 7. The topps maddux has a good chance of a 10 on a resub, probably just got the wrong side of coin flip. The other vintage were one grade lower which is inline with how CSG grades vintage compared to SGC/PSA. They fall in line with BVG grading. At least you did these with green label CSG. They eased things up on modern since going to the black labels. You got some nice cards! Thanks for sharing, always enjoy cross over results.

02-23-2023, 01:22 PM	#4
BoKnowsCards Member Join Date: Jan 2022 Posts: 137	That was a slaughter.

02-23-2023, 01:26 PM	#5
towerymt Member Join Date: Mar 2019 Location: VA Posts: 8,960	That '56 Jackie...been there done that. Cracked an SGC, PSA rejected, sub'd back to SGC, and they actually bumped it 0.5 the 2nd time. Looking at the '87 Maddux, I wonder how picky they are. That tiny print flaw just off the tip of his nose. Also looks like in the PSA scan there are white dots showing up, but I don't see it in your photo. Possible minor issue with the gloss / surface quality? Hard to pick up anything else. Parish. Print 'snow'? PSA scan is pretty bright so it's hard to see if there's any print issue that might have dropped the grade. Looks good for a 6!

02-23-2023, 01:45 PM	#6
PunsRTonsOfFun Member Join Date: Jun 2021 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 158	Thanks for sharing. Such a farce that PSA decided a year ago to finally have standards. A year ago, people were routinely cracking green CSG 8.5s and getting PSA 10s.

02-23-2023, 01:47 PM	#7
Moneychrome20 Member Join Date: Oct 2020 Posts: 1,820	Obviously you were looking to purchase.. re slab and make a profit Oh well next time buy the card you want

02-23-2023, 02:12 PM	#10
metsandweezer Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 13,252 Cascardo4	I’m honestly not shocked by those results. PSA never gives gems on 80’s and 90’s stuff.

02-23-2023, 04:50 PM	#12
RufussCkingston Member Join Date: Aug 2020 Location: Uranus Posts: 1,305	Except for the parrish and the N6, pretty much everything is still more valuable in the PSA slabs with the lower grades than in the CSG ones....

02-23-2023, 05:02 PM	#13
towerymt Member Join Date: Mar 2019 Location: VA Posts: 8,960	The Maddux pair definitely take a hit as 9s. I just sold a PSA 9 today for nearly double what I paid for a CSG 9 that I cracked & submitted expecting the PSA-9 grade. But I also have a CSG 10 that just failed an actual crossover attempt with PSA, so that's a big miss. Can't win 'em all, but the game is always fun.

02-23-2023, 07:41 PM	#16
atk825 Member Join Date: Jan 2022 Posts: 3,189	No clear winners but aside from the Jackie which probably has a decent chance of getting a numeric grade at SGC, there's no real losers here

02-24-2023, 08:12 AM	#21
I only pull for Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 1,464	All this shows is the inconsistency at PSA Please Submit Again