**Official 2023 Tampa Bay Buccaneers Season Thread**

[majestik101]

Ok... Now that Old Man Brady is done....

Now what?

Rebuild or stick with who they have?

Players probably gone...

Lavonte David -Re-signed one year, $7 million contract
Jamel Dean - Re-signed 3/13/2023. 4 Years, $52M
Scotty Miller Signed with Atlanta
Ryan Succop - Released 3/23/23
Blaine Gabbart - Signed with KC
Julio Jones - Free Agent (probably will retire)
Cameron Brate - Free Agent (probably will retire)
Kyle Rudolph - Free Agent (probably will retire)
Gio Bernard Hung up the cleats

I still contend that the Bucs will likely draft a QB. Maybe go after a vet like Derek Carr or Baker Mayfield? Although I don't see them signing either one of those.

[evileddie]

Tear it all down. Trade everyone still under contract with value for draft picks in the 2023 and 2024 draft. Probably not the popular opinion, but we aren't good enough to get back to the Superbowl as is. The only other option I would be okay with is to get Rodgers for a year or 2 and maybe be a playoff team and postpone the rebuild. Still wouldn't be enough to win it all though.

[meandsharon11]

Originally Posted by evileddie

Tear it all down. Trade everyone still under contract with value for draft picks in the 2023 and 2024 draft. Probably not the popular opinion, but we aren't good enough to get back to the Superbowl as is. The only other option I would be okay with is to get Rodgers for a year or 2 and maybe be a playoff team and postpone the rebuild. Still wouldn't be enough to win it all though.

The biggest issue is who their OC will be. Then they can pick up Carr on a 1 year deal for cheap after the Raiders release him. Take one last shot, and if that doesn’t work, then full tear down and rebuild.

[majestik101]

no.

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/n...-in-offseason/

[Floridacardguy]

Originally Posted by majestik101

no.

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/n...-in-offseason/

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Trask time

[majestik101]

Originally Posted by Floridacardguy

Trask time

not him either.

I'd rather have Gabbart as starter

[Floridacardguy]

Originally Posted by majestik101

not him either.

I'd rather have Gabbart as starter

A 33 year old journeyman that's thrown what, a total of 30 NFL passes in the last few years? Set your sights a little higher. Next you'll be wishing for that under achieving turnover machine Carr

[MC80_LCM]

Apparently on the Rich Eisen Show recently, Rick Stroud talked about Trask a bit. From what I read, one of things that worried him is that Trask struggled to learn the playbook. He also said that was one of the issues for Trask at Florida as well. A new OC means a new playbook.

While I would like Trask to be the starter, I've just heard enough that leads me to think that unless he takes a HUGE step forward in training camp, someone else will be taking the first snap week 1.

[Floridacardguy]

Originally Posted by MC80_LCM

Apparently on the Rich Eisen Show recently, Rick Stroud talked about Trask a bit. From what I read, one of things that worried him is that Trask struggled to learn the playbook. He also said that was one of the issues for Trask at Florida as well. A new OC means a new playbook.

While I would like Trask to be the starter, I've just heard enough that leads me to think that unless he takes a HUGE step forward in training camp, someone else will be taking the first snap week 1.

I know this; he's not going to do much worse than 33 year old journeyman Blaine Gabert. What other contenders are there? Jimmy G who shows signs of life and then falls off or gets hurt. Carr who got benched for sucking yet again despite having his best weapons ever. Barring a trade up to get a bonified first rounder, they can't do much worse than Trask. I say throw him out there and if he sucks, you have a great pick the following season. If he does great, they can focus on other needs. I am just a stickler for not drafting someone in the second round that you never intend to use, and if they kick him to the curb without using him, they will further prove how inept they are as an organization.

[majestik101]

Originally Posted by Floridacardguy

I am just a stickler for not drafting someone in the second round that you never intend to use, and if they kick him to the curb without using him, they will further prove how inept they are as an organization.

Kyle Trask was drafted 64th, one spot away from the 3rd Round. And the Bucs will further prove to be an inept organization? What does that mean? What planet are you living on, bruh?

[Floridacardguy]

Originally Posted by majestik101

Kyle Trask was drafted 64th, one spot away from the 3rd Round. And the Bucs will further prove to be an inept organization? What does that mean? What planet are you living on, bruh?

The planet where I know with certainty by this point in their careers what the Derek Carrs, Jimmy G's, and Blaine Gabberts of the world can offer and what their ceilings are. On the other hand I DON'T know what Trask can do without seeing it. SO unless you want to share your crystal ball with the rest of us and show us the future, I want to see what he has before I write him off

[jplarson]

I hope they keep Evans and Godwin together. It's fun seeing a dynamic duo at WR similarly to tandems like Bruce/Holt, Smith/McCardell, Harrison/Wayne, Carter/Moss, etc.

[Floridacardguy]

Originally Posted by jplarson

I hope they keep Evans and Godwin together. It's fun seeing a dynamic duo at WR similarly to tandems like Bruce/Holt, Smith/McCardell, Harrison/Wayne, Carter/Moss, etc.

Definitely, and a good 1-2 punch for any QB starting there next year. They just need to find their running game. I'd like to see a commitment to running the ball better, and maybe Bijou Robinson with their first pick. Then imagine those weapons of Bijou, Evans and Godwin.

[Eckstein197]

Originally Posted by Floridacardguy

The planet where I know with certainty by this point in their careers what the Derek Carrs, Jimmy G's, and Blaine Gabberts of the world can offer and what their ceilings are. On the other hand I DON'T know what Trask can do without seeing it. SO unless you want to share your crystal ball with the rest of us and show us the future, I want to see what he has before I write him off

One big thing is yes we won’t know fully until he shows it in game time, but the coaches are there every day with him. If they don’t trust him, if he’s struggling with the playbook and struggling in meetings, then he hasn’t earned the trust to make him the starter.

Yes it would be a wasted pick if he doesn’t amount to anything but that happens. Plenty of picks are bad, drafting is an inexact science. You’re gonna have busts

[Eckstein197]

And also let’s not forget, Jimmy G was literally 1 overthrow away from winning a SB. I would absolutely take him over Carr or Gabbert

But in reality I think they’ll go with Trask and a veteran like Gabbert to fight it out in training camp. I think Jimmy G is going to want way more than the Bucs would be willing to spend on him. And I do not want Carr, please no Carr. Carr please go to New Orleans

[Scottish Punk]

Looking at your salary cap, it seems there is a lot of contracts that are up or have an easy out after this season. I would trade anybody that has value right now. You are in for a rebuild after this year no matter, might as well get some draft picks to kickstart it. Salary cap space will clear up a ton starting in 2024. Makes sense signing all these players to match a Brady timeline.

[Eckstein197]

Originally Posted by Floridacardguy

Definitely, and a good 1-2 punch for any QB starting there next year. They just need to find their running game. I'd like to see a commitment to running the ball better, and maybe Bijou Robinson with their first pick. Then imagine those weapons of Bijou, Evans and Godwin.

First off it’s Bijan. Second off the Bucs have way bigger needs than taking a luxury RB pick in the first round. Especially because Rachaad White looked good this year

[Eckstein197]

What I think the Bucs should do is basically a mini rebuild. Let Trask start, eat a lot of the dead cap from the void years and plan to be a bottom barrel team next year. Then if you’re really bad, hopefully we will have the potential to draft Caleb Williams or maybe Quinn Ewers.

They’re gonna lose a lot of talent on the defensive side of the ball. Lavonte might retire, Jamel Dean is probably gone. SMB maybe as well. This draft should be a defense heavy draft. They need to add a lot of speed and need to fill in the holes FA will create

I’m expecting a bad 2023 season but hopeful that will provide a bright future

One thing that definitely won’t happen but I would personally love, is if the Bucs went out and got Lamar. I think with the Bucs weapons Lamar would ball out in Tampa.

Another thing that I think has a slightly better chance of happening is it wouldn’t shock me if the Bucs pick Todd Monken as their OC, they draft Stetson in like the 5/6 round. You’re not using prime draft capital and you got a QB who can be a backup who knows your OC system

[Eckstein197]

Originally Posted by majestik101

Kyle Trask was drafted 64th, one spot away from the 3rd Round. And the Bucs will further prove to be an inept organization? What does that mean? What planet are you living on, bruh?

Lol if anyone thinks the Bucs are an inept franchise are living in the past. Licht has been an excellent GM who literally built the perfect team to bring in Brady. And then won a SB. That 2020 and 2021 teams were absolutely loaded

[Floridacardguy]

Originally Posted by Eckstein197

Lol if anyone thinks the Bucs are an inept franchise are living in the past. Licht has been an excellent GM who literally built the perfect team to bring in Brady. And then won a SB. That 2020 and 2021 teams were absolutely loaded

Something was off this year. Coaching? Dead last in running game. Something needs fixing

[Floridacardguy]

Originally Posted by Eckstein197

First off it’s Bijan. Second off the Bucs have way bigger needs than taking a luxury RB pick in the first round. Especially because Rachaad White looked good this year

White DID look pretty good this year, I agree. Then again, he's a 3rd rounder and Bijan is a 1st rounder with explosive talent. But I am okay if they roll with White as long as something happens to improve the run game. No doubt Fournette is gone, he's just way too much $ this year

[Eckstein197]

Originally Posted by Floridacardguy

Something was off this year. Coaching? Dead last in running game. Something needs fixing

Yes, it was Byron Leftwich. He was awful and predictable. A terrible OC. Plus the OL will be better next year with a healthy Jensen

[49erRCCollector]

Not quite on topic but Chidi Ahanatou said Roman Oben punched him in the face at a players party last night.

I swear, Chidi loves stirring up trouble with everyone.

[Floridacardguy]

Couple different sites reporting that Bucs players are thinking Trask WILL be the guy in 2023. https://www.joebucsfan.com/2023/02/b...to-kyle-trask/

[majestik101]

Originally Posted by Floridacardguy

Couple different sites reporting that Bucs players are thinking Trask WILL be the guy in 2023. https://www.joebucsfan.com/2023/02/b...to-kyle-trask/

#collapseforCaleb