First Buzz: 2022 Bowman Chrome University football cards - Page 5

jplarson · 02-07-2023, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by EBCollectibles

I have 2 cases of Hobby on release day.

Good luck on your breaks! I have two boxes on order.

EBCollectibles · 02-07-2023, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by jplarson

Good luck on your breaks! I have two boxes on order.

Same to you. Who are you looking for?

maj78 · 02-07-2023, 03:35 PM

Excited about this one too! I've pre-ordered one case and thinking about ordering another. Should be a fun rip at a reasonable price...which is pretty rare these days.

jplarson · 02-07-2023, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by EBCollectibles

Same to you. Who are you looking for?

No one specific, hopefully pull a Bears player retroactively. Otherwise just happy to break some Topps wax and eventually put together a set.

Anyone you're hoping to pull?

foleylion08 · 02-07-2023, 04:16 PM

Got my case pre-ordered, may get more after I break it if it looks good, is fun and seems worth it.

foleylion08 · 02-07-2023, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by TheFrenzy

Why does Blowout always make me feel so isolated and alone as a college collector?

My Upper Deck black&white /10 cards are some of the crown jewels of my collection.

Those were some awesome chase cards. Never pulled anyone PC and they were always too pricey to go after on the secondary. I eat up the collegiate stuff. At least I did until Panini got the license and made so much of it. We don't necessarily need a college version of every single release.

jplarson · 02-07-2023, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by foleylion08

Those were some awesome chase cards. Never pulled anyone PC and they were always too pricey to go after on the secondary. I eat up the collegiate stuff. At least I did until Panini got the license and made so much of it. We don't necessarily need a college version of every single release.

Yes.

Panini really watered it down by lazily turning their pro brands/designs into "Draft Picks" or "Collegiate". What I like most about Bowman U is that it's 100% guys about to go pro or NIL still in school. Doing college cards of guys in the NFL is fine but I don't want every product polluted with it. Especially products whose designs I've already seen recently or will see again very soon.

I will reserve my right to complain if Topps comes out with a Bowman Chrome Pro using the exact same design or in the future infect ALL their college stuff with pros in college uniforms. Distinctive products help build brand reputations and followings. Panini feels like one long unending set with almost infinite subsets and parallels.

ninjacookies · 02-07-2023, 07:59 PM

These are going to go brazy if Panini taps out on this year's NIL licenses. Lord knows they probably should, considering they're a full calendar year behind on everything else. Nothing better than a $1250 floor on airbrushed Flawless pelican cases.

Imagine if these are the only licensed college kardz before the draft. Just imagine.

EBCollectibles · 02-07-2023, 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by jplarson

No one specific, hopefully pull a Bears player retroactively. Otherwise just happy to break some Topps wax and eventually put together a set.

Anyone you're hoping to pull?

Shipley & Klubnik.

Hail2TheVictors · 02-07-2023, 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by ninjacookies

These are going to go brazy if Panini taps out on this year's NIL licenses. Lord knows they probably should, considering they're a full calendar year behind on everything else. Nothing better than a $1250 floor on airbrushed Flawless pelican cases.

Imagine if these are the only licensed college kardz before the draft. Just imagine.

Panini being panini definitely helps. There’s no way they put out a college product before the draft - that’s huge for this release.

Anyone in the draft you sell somewhere from now-draft weekend. Any of the guys who will be in college this year can either be sold right away, or held until the college season.

There aren’t many products that carry 0 risk when breaking cases - this is one of them.

Floridacardguy · 02-07-2023, 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by EBCollectibles

Shipley & Klubnik.

I am with you on Klubnik. Also looking for McCarthy. I have 2 Klubnik autos but no McCarthys. Also hoping for Drew Allar I have two of his autos too but happy to add more.
I am bummed out they left Tanner McKee out of this, I really think he could turn out to be a real sleeper

ninjacookies · 02-07-2023, 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Hail2TheVictors

Panini being panini definitely helps. There’s no way they put out a college product before the draft - that’s huge for this release.

Anyone in the draft you sell somewhere from now-draft weekend. Any of the guys who will be in college this year can either be sold right away, or held until the college season.

There aren’t many products that carry 0 risk when breaking cases - this is one of them.

Amen.

Was fun making decent money flipping collegiate Prizm singles on draft night 2 years ago. When Goodell called Ceedee to Dallas...it was $$$.

A little more than a week away. I'm excited.

MD202041 · 02-08-2023, 10:32 AM

I’m on record as really liking last years version which had PAPER base and was NOT LICENSED. I STILL made money on the cases I ripped from last year.

How in earth is THIS year’s CHROME and LICENSED product priced where it is? Only my limited cash supply is stopping me from buying 10 cases. For months to come and possibly longer I can’t conceive how you wouldn’t make money on this and still build the chrome base set and keep some singles for the PC.

As a PSU fan are you serious I can get Drew Allar and Nick Singleton? For my sake I hope people sleep on this product so prices stay down for a little while. Because right now dare I say this is the ONLY fairly priced or I may even say underpriced football wax on the market.

Can’t wait for this release. Seriously can’t wait. Lots of REALLY good draft and still in college prospects in this set.

Floridacardguy · 02-08-2023, 12:21 PM

I just ordered a hobby case, 5 extra hobby boxes and 15 blasters.
Fingers crossed for some good hits!

glassofwater · 02-08-2023, 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Floridacardguy

I just ordered a hobby case, 5 extra hobby boxes and 15 blasters.
Fingers crossed for some good hits!

I’m torn between buying a blaster case or hobby. Besides getting a guaranteed 24 autos which is the way to go. We don’t know the print run. Are blasters getting a #card a blaster?

oldgoldy97 · 02-08-2023, 01:36 PM

Will blasters really be as good this time around or will it be the old Topps dipsy doo?

Floridacardguy · 02-08-2023, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by glassofwater

I’m torn between buying a blaster case or hobby. Besides getting a guaranteed 24 autos which is the way to go. We don’t know the print run. Are blasters getting a #card a blaster?

Yeah, the guaranteed 24 autos out of a 100 card set means pretty good odds to get some of the top autos. I almost bought a blaster case but I know your odds to hit autos are not that good, and I really like getting autos.

I sort of hedged my bets. With the case I bought and the 5 extra hobby boxes, I am guarantted 34 autos and a bunch of good #'d stuff. The blaster boxes are just a chance for me to get some other types of parallels and such and hopefully another auto or two, plus I like that not all of it is coming from the same case, so hope to get more of a mix

jplarson · 02-08-2023, 03:00 PM

2022 Bowman U had hobby odds of 1:25 and retail odds of 1:75 for a Chrome Prospect Auto per pack printed odds. All non-hobby exclusive cards were roughly 3x harder to hit on a per pack basis for retail than hobby. I don't know what the odds are this year beyond 2 autos per hobby box.

Floridacardguy · 02-08-2023, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by jplarson

2022 Bowman U had hobby odds of 1:25 and retail odds of 1:75 for a Chrome Prospect Auto per pack printed odds. All non-hobby exclusive cards were roughly 3x harder to hit on a per pack basis for retail than hobby. I don't know what the odds are this year beyond 2 autos per hobby box.

Chrome Hobby breakdown

Bowman University is back in session for the 2022 season with a fully
chrome finish, and for the first time ever, college marks for some of the top programs in the country!
Complete the 100-card Base Set, featuring a lineup of the most exciting young talent on their journey to the highest level!

Find 2 Chrome Prospect Autographs per Box!

BASE CARDS
Base Set Parallels
• Refractor – 1:6 Packs
• Shimmer Refractor – 1 per Hobby Box – Hobby Exclusive!
• Purple Refractor Parallel – #’d to 399
• Purple Mini-Diamond Refractor Parallel – #’d to 399 NEW!
• Aqua Refractor Parallel – #’d to 299
• Aqua Wave Refractor Parallel – #’d to 299 NEW!
• Blue Refractor Parallel – #’d to 199
• Blue RayWave Refractor Parallel – #’d to 199 NEW!
• Fuchsia Mini-Diamond Refractor – #’d to 150
• Lava Refractor – #’d to 100
• Green Refractor – #’d to 99
• Green Shimmer Refractor – #’d to 99 – Hobby Exclusive!
• Yellow Refractor – #’d to 75
• Gold Refractor – #’d to 50
• Gold Shimmer Refractor – #’d to 50 – Hobby Exclusive!
• Orange Refractor – #’d to 25
• Orange Shimmer Refractor – #’d to 25 – Hobby Exclusive!
• Red Shimmer Refractor – #’d to 10 – Hobby Exclusive!
• Red Refractor – #’d to 5
• Black Shimmer Refractor – #’d 1-of-1 – Hobby Exclusive!
• SuperFractor - #’d 1-of-1

INSERT CARDS
1952 Bowman Football – 1:6 Packs NEW!
Pulling from the early days of Bowman, build the entire set of young phenoms on this classic 1952 Bowman design.
• Aqua Refractor Parallel - #’d to 150
• Orange Refractor Parallel - #’d to 25
• SuperFractor Parallel - #’d 1-of-1
Ramblin’ Man – 1:8 Packs NEW!
The most elusive, athletic, hole-hitting, ball-spiking skill players ramblin’ their way around the field get their moment to shine with this all-new insert!
• Aqua Refractor Parallel - #’d to 150
• Orange Refractor Parallel - #’d to 25
• SuperFractor Parallel - #’d 1-of-1
Bowman Invicta – 1:12 Packs – Hobby Exclusive
• Lava Refractor - #’d to 150
• Orange Refractor - #’d to 25
• SuperFractor - #’d 1-of-1
The Big Kahuna – 1:288 Packs – Hobby Exclusive
• Orange Refractor - #’d to 25
• SuperFractor - #’d 1-of-1

AUTOGRAPHS
Chrome Prospect Autograph Parallels
• Refractor Parallel - #’d to 499
• Lava Refractor Parallel - #’d to 199
• Green Refractor Parallel - #’d to 99
• Yellow Refractor Parallel - #’d to 75
• Gold Refractor Parallel - #’d to 50
• Gold Lava Refractor Parallel - #’d to 50 - Hobby Exclusive!
• Orange Refractor Parallel - #’d to 25 - Hobby Exclusive!
• Orange Shimmer Refractor Parallel - #’d to 25 - Hobby Exclusive!
• Red Refractor Parallel - #’d to 5
• Red Shimmer Refractor Parallel - #’d to 5
• SuperFractor Parallel - #’d 1-of-1
Prime Chrome Signatures - #’d to 50
• Orange Refractor Parallel - #’d to 25
• SuperFractor Parallel - #’d 1-of-1
Bowman Invicta Autographs – #’d to 99 – Hobby Exclusive
• Orange Refractor Parallel - #’d to 25
• SuperFractor Parallel - #’d 1-of-1
Ramblin’ Man Autographs – #’d to 99
• Orange Refractor Parallel - #’d to 25
• SuperFractor Parallel - #’d 1-of-1
1952 Bowman Autographs – #’d to 99
• Orange Refractor Parallel - #’d to 25
• SuperFractor Parallel - #’d 1-of-1
The Big Kahuna Autographs – Varied #’ing – Hobby Only
• Orange Refractor Parallel - #’d to 25
• SuperFractor Parallel - #’d 1-of-1

Hail2TheVictors · 02-08-2023, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by ninjacookies

Amen.

Was fun making decent money flipping collegiate Prizm singles on draft night 2 years ago. When Goodell called Ceedee to Dallas...it was $$$.

A little more than a week away. I'm excited.

Draft night is one of my favorite things all year (as it relates to cards). Love following who goes where, and watching guys that go to the cowboys, packers, Steelers, etc jump in value. Lots of fun.

The ceedee example is perfect.

Hail2TheVictors · 02-08-2023, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by MD202041

I’m on record as really liking last years version which had PAPER base and was NOT LICENSED. I STILL made money on the cases I ripped from last year.

How in earth is THIS year’s CHROME and LICENSED product priced where it is? Only my limited cash supply is stopping me from buying 10 cases. For months to come and possibly longer I can’t conceive how you wouldn’t make money on this and still build the chrome base set and keep some singles for the PC.

As a PSU fan are you serious I can get Drew Allar and Nick Singleton? For my sake I hope people sleep on this product so prices stay down for a little while. Because right now dare I say this is the ONLY fairly priced or I may even say underpriced football wax on the market.

Can’t wait for this release. Seriously can’t wait. Lots of REALLY good draft and still in college prospects in this set.

Nice thing about this is breakers won’t touch it, so price should be fairly reasonable I’d think. If breakers were into it, I think the price would jump quite a bit.

And I’m with you, I did really well with last years - which as you mentioned had paper base and no license.

My body is ready….but I think it got pushed back to feb 22.

49erRCCollector · 02-08-2023, 06:58 PM

Having logos makes a world of difference. Night and day.

I've never heard of him but a rainbow chase on Kool-Aid McKinstry sounds like a must.

Yanks23 · 02-08-2023, 07:10 PM

Im debating on best way to move base cards - make sets or do player lots? I figured with baseball you can make more with player lots but sometimes get suck with a bunch of guys that wont sell. Any thoughts?

Floridacardguy · 02-08-2023, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Yanks23

Im debating on best way to move base cards - make sets or do player lots? I figured with baseball you can make more with player lots but sometimes get suck with a bunch of guys that wont sell. Any thoughts?

Does anyone buy base card sets still? And what would a 100 card base card set go for? I may try to put one together for old times sakes. I remember as a kid trying to get all 792 of my Topps baseball to complete the set. 100 seems much easier, and more quality players

49erRCCollector · 02-08-2023, 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Floridacardguy

Does anyone buy base card sets still? And what would a 100 card base card set go for? I may try to put one together for old times sakes. I remember as a kid trying to get all 792 of my Topps baseball to complete the set. 100 seems much easier, and more quality players

(Almost) no one buys base card sets.

02-07-2023, 07:59 PM	#108
ninjacookies Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: All the girls see the (boi)/ Look at his flips / Look at his kards / All they say is (oh boi). Posts: 57,067	These are going to go brazy if Panini taps out on this year's NIL licenses. Lord knows they probably should, considering they're a full calendar year behind on everything else. Nothing better than a $1250 floor on airbrushed Flawless pelican cases. Imagine if these are the only licensed college kardz before the draft. Just imagine. __________________ #5 world ranked Ledell Eackles superclection as recognized by Tuff Stuff junior managing editor, Barry McCaulkinner. Somethin' like a cross between Teddy Aguhob and Kaboom Mystery Packs. I got that Givenchy denim flow.

02-08-2023, 10:32 AM	#113
MD202041 Member Join Date: Feb 2021 Posts: 282	I’m on record as really liking last years version which had PAPER base and was NOT LICENSED. I STILL made money on the cases I ripped from last year. How in earth is THIS year’s CHROME and LICENSED product priced where it is? Only my limited cash supply is stopping me from buying 10 cases. For months to come and possibly longer I can’t conceive how you wouldn’t make money on this and still build the chrome base set and keep some singles for the PC. As a PSU fan are you serious I can get Drew Allar and Nick Singleton? For my sake I hope people sleep on this product so prices stay down for a little while. Because right now dare I say this is the ONLY fairly priced or I may even say underpriced football wax on the market. Can’t wait for this release. Seriously can’t wait. Lots of REALLY good draft and still in college prospects in this set. Last edited by MD202041; 02-08-2023 at 10:35 AM.

02-08-2023, 01:36 PM	#116
oldgoldy97 Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 51,731	Will blasters really be as good this time around or will it be the old Topps dipsy doo? __________________ Truly riveting discussion: that’s what your wife/girlfriend/sheep said.

02-08-2023, 06:58 PM	#122
49erRCCollector Member Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 12,751	Having logos makes a world of difference. Night and day. I've never heard of him but a rainbow chase on Kool-Aid McKinstry sounds like a must. __________________ Will MASSIVELY overpay for: 2002 Fleer Authentix #180, 181 Derek Smith & Zack Bronson AND 2007 Upper Deck Target Exclusive Rookies Autographs #261 Joe Staley #'d to /5

02-07-2023, 03:35 PM	#103
maj78 Member Join Date: Jul 2020 Location: TX Posts: 696	Excited about this one too! I've pre-ordered one case and thinking about ordering another. Should be a fun rip at a reasonable price...which is pretty rare these days.

02-07-2023, 04:16 PM	#105
foleylion08 Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Posts: 3,637 dynastysportscards17	Got my case pre-ordered, may get more after I break it if it looks good, is fun and seems worth it.

02-08-2023, 12:21 PM	#114
Floridacardguy Member Join Date: Dec 2022 Posts: 10,054	I just ordered a hobby case, 5 extra hobby boxes and 15 blasters. Fingers crossed for some good hits!

02-08-2023, 03:00 PM	#118
jplarson Banned Join Date: Nov 2015 Posts: 15,578	2022 Bowman U had hobby odds of 1:25 and retail odds of 1:75 for a Chrome Prospect Auto per pack printed odds. All non-hobby exclusive cards were roughly 3x harder to hit on a per pack basis for retail than hobby. I don't know what the odds are this year beyond 2 autos per hobby box.

02-08-2023, 07:10 PM	#123
Yanks23 Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: VEGAS Posts: 1,112 ellios23	Im debating on best way to move base cards - make sets or do player lots? I figured with baseball you can make more with player lots but sometimes get suck with a bunch of guys that wont sell. Any thoughts?