2022 Topps Chrome Update Sapphire--This Could Be the Product of the Year? (2022/2023)

[JoshMN]

Originally Posted by OhioLawyerF5

It has all the usual markings of a sealed case. Not sure why it matters if a company prints the info directly on the box, or attaches a sticker with that info printed. It's still a sealed case in every sense of the word. They literally put the "10/8" designation indicating 10 boxes with 8 packs inside the case. It meets every definition of a sealed case I've ever seen.

I was under the impression that the "sealed cases" did not have the usual markings with the 10/8 and SKU/barcode. I thought someone said it just had a packing slip taped to their box and you would not know what was in it otherwise.

If it has the standard Topps sealed case markings, then I'd agree that it is a true "sealed case" and the taped-on packing slip doesn't matter.

ETA: only a true sealed case if it has all 10 boxes. What did people do with the Cosmic "sealed cases" that had 10 instead of 12 boxes?

[UCCF]

OK put me in the worst two boxes competition:

Base cards - none of the big rookies of any kind. The biggest rookie cards were probably Bryson Stott (RC and Debut!)

Parallels - greens of Orlando Arcia and Josh Rojas, golds of Jurickson Profar and Jason Krizan, and an orange Sonny Gray

I can't believe I stayed home from work to make sure these boxes arrived safely...

[KhalDrogo]

My case has two 10/8 count stickers, the FedEx label, and a pouch for the packing slip.

[Archimedes]

Originally Posted by Pacmeyer

Those buying individual boxes are better off. What's to stop anyone from slapping the photocopied label on a different carton?

LOL, this is a weird take. Why in the world would this be true?

[Arctic228]

Originally Posted by JoshMN

Someone also paid almost 4k for the first Julio Logofractor posted on Ebay so I'm not sure that a single sale proves your point.

In my view, the thing you are calling a "sealed case" is actually just a "sealed box". Everything Topps sends comes in a sealed box (all jokes and random anecdotes aside, everything I have received from Topps came in a sealed outer box when I received it). Whether that sealed box is a sealed "case" in the hobby sense of the word is another story.

No, the 10 box orders come in sealed cases. Topps tapes your invoice on the outside of the box. What makes it a case? The fact that it has the topps designation stating 10/8 count and the code of the case.

[Arctic228]

Originally Posted by Pacmeyer

I didn't say it doesn't meet some definition of a sealed case. I'm saying the barcode label can be reproduced and put on a different carton since it's not printed directly on the box. Printing the barcode directly on the box is obviously more difficult to reproduce.

Thats true of anything you buy in life

[OhioLawyerF5]

Originally Posted by JoshMN

I was under the impression that the "sealed cases" did not have the usual markings with the 10/8 and SKU/barcode. I thought someone said it just had a packing slip taped to their box and you would not know what was in it otherwise.

If it has the standard Topps sealed case markings, then I'd agree that it is a true "sealed case" and the taped-on packing slip doesn't matter.

ETA: only a true sealed case if it has all 10 boxes. What did people do with the Cosmic "sealed cases" that had 10 instead of 12 boxes?

This was posted earlier in this thread:

[solt0131]

[QUOTE=Bob Ross;18664027]

Does anyone know what the high buy on dealernet is?

[eastbayak]

Originally Posted by Bob Ross

Originally Posted by The Accountant

lowest offer on the market... lol

Haha! They have some strong buy offers on other wax but are certainly low on these boxes.

I wonder what BO’s offer will be.

[Pacmeyer]

Originally Posted by Archimedes

LOL, this is a weird take. Why in the world would this be true?

You sound new to sealed wax if you can't imagine unscrupulous sellers opening their cases and passing off the unwanted boxes in a resealed case. Or worse shorting the number of boxes or putting different ones inside.

Originally Posted by Arctic228

Thats true of anything you buy in life

Most things don't double in price in the span of 2 weeks. That's a lot of incentive to cheat.

[cj828282]

Originally Posted by eastbayak

Haha! They have some strong buy offers on other wax but are certainly low on these boxes.

I wonder what BO’s offer will be.

Probably will not have one. They have not listed any products in the buying section for almost 6 months.

[stormshadow815]

Originally Posted by Bob Ross

It was at $175 earlier this morning when they first listed. I cannot believe people were willing to even take a $35-40 profit on these. These will be a $225+ easy in a few weeks. I'll be taking a handful to my shows at $250.

[Arctic228]

Originally Posted by Pacmeyer

You sound new to sealed wax if you can't imagine unscrupulous sellers opening their cases and passing off the unwanted boxes in a resealed case. Or worse shorting the number of boxes or putting different ones inside.



Most things don't double in price in the span of 2 weeks. That's a lot of incentive to cheat.

How many sapphire did you buy off the drop?

[Pacmeyer]

Originally Posted by Arctic228

How many sapphire did you buy off the drop?

Why does that matter? Are you saying this is some kind of reverse pump?

As a victim of resealed boxes myself, I take note when I see packaging that looks susceptible to tampering. You don't have to pay any attention if it's no concern to you.

[Stack]

Couldn't resist so broke another box. Number 7. For a brief moment in time I saw the RC logo, Then the Seattle logo and thought I did it. Either way not too bad.

[eastbayak]

Originally Posted by cj828282

Probably will not have one. They have not listed any products in the buying section for almost 6 months.

They probably do have one.

For what it's worth, I've sold products to them over the last 6 months. Even though they don't advertise buy prices anymore, they're still actively buying.

Sometimes, their prices are REALLY strong (e.g., I moved Logofractor boxes to BO at $130 per when boxes were selling for $130-$135 per on eBay). Sometimes, their prices are a little weak (e.g., they're offering $325 per on TC Cosmic boxes when those are selling for $420-$500 shipped on eBay).

[eastbayak]

Originally Posted by stormshadow815

It was at $175 earlier this morning when they first listed. I cannot believe people were willing to even take a $35-40 profit on these. These will be a $225+ easy in a few weeks. I'll be taking a handful to my shows at $250.

These are already an easy $225 right now lol.

[Arctic228]

Originally Posted by Pacmeyer

Why does that matter? Are you saying this is some kind of reverse pump?

As a victim of resealed boxes myself, I take note when I see packaging that looks susceptible to tampering. You don't have to pay any attention if it's no concern to you.

No i'm just wondering why you feel the need to complain so much. Do you even like this product?

[eastbayak]

Originally Posted by Arctic228

No i'm just wondering why you feel the need to complain so much. Do you even like this product?

Welcome to BO!

For what it's worth, Pacmeyer actually makes some valid points. Other members complain for the sake of complaining without adding any other input.

[stormshadow815]

Originally Posted by eastbayak

These are already an easy $225 right now lol.

Yeah on places like eBay that take a cut. I'm talking about direct, no fee type places like the big 3.

[eastbayak]

Originally Posted by stormshadow815

Yeah on places like eBay that take a cut. I'm talking about direct, no fee type places like the big 3.

Easy.

FB/IG.

You're welcome.

[Pacmeyer]

Originally Posted by Arctic228

No i'm just wondering why you feel the need to complain so much. Do you even like this product?

I'm criticizing the makeshift nature of the case packaging that makes it easier to be tampered with. If even that bothers you, I guess you dropped all your savings on this?

[thenightman]

If anyone wants to sell me their box for $130, I'm all in.

[JoshMN]

Originally Posted by OhioLawyerF5

This was posted earlier in this thread:

Has Topps done that before? I thought they printed that info directly on the box. Not exactly confidence-inducing. Seems like it would be easy to counterfeit and pack the insides with GI Joe cards, but I guess you could say that for any sealed case that is essentially just a cardboard box.

Would people benefit from sending these to BBCE immediately if they plan to hold long-term?

Topps could introduce fancy sealed case packaging and sell with an upcharge if they knew what they were doing.

[eastbayak]

Originally Posted by JoshMN

Has Topps done that before? I thought they printed that info directly on the box. Not exactly confidence-inducing. Seems like it would be easy to counterfeit and pack the insides with GI Joe cards, but I guess you could say that for any sealed case that is essentially just a cardboard box.

Would people benefit from sending these to BBCE immediately if they plan to hold long-term?

Topps could introduce fancy sealed case packaging and sell with an upcharge if they knew what they were doing.

LOL! No one wants GI Joe cards!