2022 Topps Chrome Update Sapphire--This Could Be the Product of the Year? (2022/2023)

[KhalDrogo]

Opening just two boxes of this is a gamble, and the majority will get burned badly.

[ThoseBackPages]

rip now, cry later

[Funkster]

Someone has an orange Julio RD up for 4k


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[caulaflour]

Originally Posted by Funkster

Someone has an orange Julio RD up for 4k


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This someone will always exist as long as the bay is a thing.

[LVDan]

Originally Posted by KhalDrogo

Opening just two boxes of this is a gamble, and the majority will get burned badly.

As nearly everything desirable is a gamble it still seems do-able because of the bar set by TCS.
But at $130 vs $250 with a half sized checklist and RD consolation prizes also it seems like a 60-70% better floor for the average rip, even assuming more singles availability and lower realized TCUS singles prices for each player than TCS.
Not saying its a great break value on its own merits, just way higher average break EV than the original.

Buying a Big Mac for the standard $5 SRP is horrible. WHen you have a half off coupon for $2.50/Mac you're mentally trained into thinking its a great deal while in reality it's just ok.
FWIW-Big Macs are a disastrous value and very poor quality overall.

[h00perstar34]

Mine should be delivered any minute, will rip a couple and post results tonight fingers crossed

[splitrockgamer]

I missed the offering, so please all rip and pull some monsters so I can live vicariously through you!

[J1L]

Originally Posted by h00perstar34

Mine should be delivered any minute, will rip a couple and post results tonight fingers crossed

good luck man!

[caulaflour]

Originally Posted by KhalDrogo

Opening just two boxes of this is a gamble, and the majority will get burned badly.

If you're using "burned badly" as it is normally used, this isn't true for those that bought at $130 each - especially by today's crazy standards of prices/ripping.

If you spent $260, you're getting a lot of chances at desirable base and you're guaranteed at least 4 parallels. Even if you don't hit anything great and wind up taking a loss, you're not getting taken to the cleaners or anything.

[hermanotarjeta]

Originally Posted by LVDan

As nearly everything desirable is a gamble it still seems do-able because of the bar set by TCS.
But at $130 vs $250 with a half sized checklist and RD consolation prizes also it seems like a 60-70% better floor for the average rip, even assuming more singles availability and lower realized TCUS singles prices for each player than TCS.
Not saying its a great break value on its own merits, just way higher average break EV than the original.

Buying a Big Mac for the standard $5 SRP is horrible. WHen you have a half off coupon for $2.50/Mac you're mentally trained into thinking its a great deal while in reality it's just ok.
FWIW-Big Macs are a disastrous value and very poor quality overall.

So did topps fool everyone by pricing TCS high, just to make TCUS look like a bargain?

What does the TCUS breakdown have anything to do with TCU, or any other product, for that matter? They are all very different products. TCS was always a horrible break yield wise, just like any other bk, fb, or high end bb product.

The market price for TCUS sealed boxes will also adjust shortly so that ripping it will be a horrible idea Financially.

[J1L]

Originally Posted by hermanotarjeta

So did topps fool everyone by pricing TCS high, just to make TCUS look like a bargain?

What does the TCUS breakdown have anything to do with TCU, or any other product, for that matter? They are all very different products. TCS was always a horrible break yield wise, just like any other bk, fb, or high end bb product.

The market price for TCUS sealed boxes will also adjust shortly so that ripping it will be a horrible idea Financially.

how high do boxes go on secondary?

[hermanotarjeta]

Originally Posted by J1L

how high do boxes go on secondary?

Box prices will always adjust to the point where the sales prices of the sealed boxes go for about 2-3x your average box yield of the singles.

That number is up to you to figure out.

[clsports]

Originally Posted by hermanotarjeta

So did topps fool everyone by pricing TCS high, just to make TCUS look like a bargain?

They sure did.

[JRX]

So its less than 10% chance or any one specific card? Just going off of each box has less than 10% of the total set.

[FT35]

Originally Posted by LVDan

As nearly everything desirable is a gamble it still seems do-able because of the bar set by TCS.
But at $130 vs $250 with a half sized checklist and RD consolation prizes also it seems like a 60-70% better floor for the average rip, even assuming more singles availability and lower realized TCUS singles prices for each player than TCS.
Not saying its a great break value on its own merits, just way higher average break EV than the original.

Buying a Big Mac for the standard $5 SRP is horrible. WHen you have a half off coupon for $2.50/Mac you're mentally trained into thinking its a great deal while in reality it's just ok.
FWIW-Big Macs are a disastrous value and very poor quality overall.

I might have missed something…aren’t there the full 330 in the update sapphire set?

[LVDan]

Originally Posted by hermanotarjeta

So did topps fool everyone by pricing TCS high, just to make TCUS look like a bargain?

What does the TCUS breakdown have anything to do with TCU, or any other product, for that matter? They are all very different products. TCS was always a horrible break yield wise, just like any other bk, fb, or high end bb product.

The market price for TCUS sealed boxes will also adjust shortly so that ripping it will be a horrible idea Financially.

-Everyone will have to draw their own conclusions on if its a fair break value for them based on their own expectations of the results and the entertainment value they attach. Im strictly just comparing the 2 sapphire releases at the initial offered price. I never mentioned TCU but its a dirty dog with its own fleas but at least plummeting in price accordingly.

Originally Posted by FT35

I might have missed something…aren’t there the full 330 in the update sapphire set?

yeah , but half the checklist size of Topps Chrome Sapphire ($250/box)

[FT35]

Originally Posted by LVDan

yeah , but half the checklist size of Topps Chrome Sapphire ($250/box)

Oh this makes sense. I follow now!

[LVDan]

Originally Posted by FT35

Oh this makes sense. I follow now!

2018 man...could you imagine TCUS with a 100 card checklist in 2022?
Juan2, Ron2, thebabe(Ohtani)2, and Gleyber4(quite relevant at the time) comprised 10% of the cards in the set!)

[KhalDrogo]

Originally Posted by caulaflour

If you're using "burned badly" as it is normally used, this isn't true for those that bought at $130 each - especially by today's crazy standards of prices/ripping.

If you spent $260, you're getting a lot of chances at desirable base and you're guaranteed at least 4 parallels. Even if you don't hit anything great and wind up taking a loss, you're not getting taken to the cleaners or anything.

I feel like losing $200+ on a five minute break is still a lot for most people. But maybe not?

[FT35]

Originally Posted by LVDan

2018 man...could you imagine TCUS with a 100 card checklist in 2022?
Juan2, Ron2, thebabe(Ohtani)2, and Gleyber4(quite relevant at the time) comprised 10% of the cards in the set!)

No joke! To this day, there’s a 2018 HMT55 Update Soto Sapphire-sized hole in my life!

[jjcan]

Originally Posted by LVDan

As nearly everything desirable is a gamble it still seems do-able because of the bar set by TCS.
But at $130 vs $250 with a half sized checklist and RD consolation prizes also it seems like a 60-70% better floor for the average rip, even assuming more singles availability and lower realized TCUS singles prices for each player than TCS.
Not saying its a great break value on its own merits, just way higher average break EV than the original.

Buying a Big Mac for the standard $5 SRP is horrible. WHen you have a half off coupon for $2.50/Mac you're mentally trained into thinking its a great deal while in reality it's just ok.
FWIW-Big Macs are a disastrous value and very poor quality overall.

Wait so we should sell our boxes and then Buy Big Macs and Steven Kwans?

Do not break, eat and buy singles instead.

[LVDan]

Originally Posted by jjcan

Wait so we should sell our boxes and then Buy Big Macs and Steven Kwans?

Do not break, eat and buy singles instead.

I dunno. Looks like they are selling $200-$225 online? A tidy lil profit but not neccesarily a no brainer flip?
If I had 10 in hand and could net $700 profit on a $1300 layout Id be tempted to flip them all, use $695 on singles then maybe grab a $5 Wendys biggie bag?

[Yaga]

Originally Posted by LVDan

I dunno. Looks like they are selling $200-$225 online? A tidy lil profit but not neccesarily a no brainer flip?
If I had 10 in hand and could net $700 profit on a $1300 layout Id be tempted to flip them all, use $695 on singles then maybe grab a $5 Wendys biggie bag?

Hahahahah how come all of your posts end up with food Dan?

[LVDan]

Originally Posted by Yaga

Hahahahah how come all of your posts end up with food Dan?

Cause I attempt to flip cards as a hobby and then use the profits to buy more cards and food for my family. I splurge on a fast food lunch 2 or 3 times a month also.(btw the Arby's curlys arrived cold and missing 20% the other day via grubhub delivery- of course they did )

[thenightman]

Originally Posted by KhalDrogo

Opening just two boxes of this is a gamble, and the majority will get burned badly.

How about 3?