I just came up on a gold mine and im not sure how to proceed.

[nj1980]

Originally Posted by SleeperCards

I think not posting any more would be a good idea.

With a personality like yours, I don't think anyone will ever disagree with you. Bye!

[mike1498]

Are you actually looking for other's opinions or just trying to show off your cards?

Either is okay but I think there is a disconnect here.

[nj1980]

Im honestly trying to ascertain their worth and decide which joke of a grading company to submit them to. Beckett graded a Rice rookie a 9 that looked like it had spent a couple nights in a sewer.

Believe me Im well aware that theres a lot of disgruntled losers online who thrive on negativity and "hating". Maybe because their collection sucks, maybe because they're a born loser, who cares.

My intention was to see what these are possibly worth and get the opinion of people who have had more experience with this stuff than me.

Thank you to all who made insightful and meaningful posts. I really appreciate it and BOL to you all.

[escapegoat]

nothing wrong with fools gold. congrats on the mine.

[SleeperCards]

Originally Posted by nj1980

Im honestly trying to ascertain their worth and decide which joke of a grading company to submit them to. Beckett graded a Rice rookie a 9 that looked like it had spent a couple nights in a sewer.

Believe me Im well aware that theres a lot of disgruntled losers online who thrive on negativity and "hating". Maybe because their collection sucks, maybe because they're a born loser, who cares.

My intention was to see what these are possibly worth and get the opinion of people who have had more experience with this stuff than me.

Thank you to all who made insightful and meaningful posts. I really appreciate it and BOL to you all.

Post them up when graded, should be able to quiet all the #haters.

[Archangel1775]

Originally Posted by nj1980

https://www.ebay.com/itm/33470487906...Bk9SR8C9ndy3YQ

Beckett graded this a 9, and it looks awful. If this is a 9 by Beckett maybe I should send the best Rice over there and hope for a 10.

Anyone think sending it to Beckett would be a good idea as opposed to PSA?

You'll have to research the price differences between a BGS 9 and PSA 9. BGS is a different beast with the sub-grades. In general, BGS 9.5's used to be the best grade one can hope for years ago. BGS 10's are few and far between.

[nj1980]

Originally Posted by Archangel1775

You'll have to research the price differences between a BGS 9 and PSA 9. BGS is a different beast with the sub-grades. In general, BGS 9.5's used to be the best grade one can hope for years ago. BGS 10's are few and far between.

Check that ebay link I posted above. They graded that a 9. If thats a 9 how on Gods green Earth is mine not a 10.

The card grading industry is beyond laughable, beyond debacle.

[Selanne00008]

Originally Posted by nj1980

Im honestly trying to ascertain their worth and decide which joke of a grading company to submit them to. Beckett graded a Rice rookie a 9 that looked like it had spent a couple nights in a sewer.

Believe me Im well aware that theres a lot of disgruntled losers online who thrive on negativity and "hating". Maybe because their collection sucks, maybe because they're a born loser, who cares.

My intention was to see what these are possibly worth and get the opinion of people who have had more experience with this stuff than me.

Thank you to all who made insightful and meaningful posts. I really appreciate it and BOL to you all.

Here's some insight on the situation, not the cards at all. I used to be you. SUPER SUPER hopeful I was going to score some gem mints! Enthusiastic 1000%. Even like having rose colored glasses on like I couldn't even see the imperfections in my cards before submitting them.

yeah that changed quick. Tempering expectations is never a a bad idea. Hope for 9s, expect 7's, something like that when it comes to vintage. When they come back higher, GREAT.

Try this. Pretend they aren't your card and you are given $50 for every possible imperfection you can find. Someone here circled a bunch within 30 seconds of reviewing just the pic. When they come back lower than you hoped it also doesn't necessarily mean the grading company is a complete joke.

I think we all just wanna say, take a deep breath, temper your hopes a tad, and enjoy it all.

[Archangel1775]

Originally Posted by nj1980

Check that ebay link I posted above. They graded that a 9. If thats a 9 how on Gods green Earth is mine not a 10.

The card grading industry is beyond laughable, beyond debacle.

Again, research the differences in the BGS 9 subgrades. Then look at BGS 9.5 and their sub-grades. Then look at the BGS 10 and those sub-grades. Go to Beckett.com and read up on their standards and grading process.

[49erRCCollector]

I’m getting strong PBM/troll vibes here.

[pjrussell]

Have you looked at these cards under a loupe? If not, I suggest doing that and looking at the corners, edges, and front and back. You may have wrinkles, creases, indentations, print dots, or ink markings not seen by the naked eye. The grader will use these. I've looked at plenty of cards that look like the corners and edges are good only to be shocked at how bad they actually are on newer cards let alone 40 year old cards.

[nj1980]

Maybe I should sell them raw dog. No lube not even a courtesy spit.

[vthobby]

Originally Posted by nj1980

Maybe I should sell them raw dog. No lube not even a courtesy spit.

Then the drama will be over. Please do. ugh

PS With these actions they will go from 7s to 2s. lol

[pjrussell]

Originally Posted by 49erRCCollector

I’m getting strong PBM/troll vibes here.

Now I'm getting that too. Bet he won a cheap Honus Wagner off ebay as well.

[Archangel1775]

Originally Posted by Selanne00008

Try this. Pretend they aren't your card and you are given $50 for every possible imperfection you can find. Someone here circled a bunch within 30 seconds of reviewing just the pic. When they come back lower than you hoped it also doesn't necessarily mean the grading company is a complete joke.

Rice #1:

Really nice centering but that right edge is pretty rough. Not sure what that spot is on the left, hopefully in the holder. Just gotta send this one in and hope

[Archangel1775]

Rice #2:

Centering is really bad Top to bottom and left to right.
Corners are not only soft but somewhat worn showing all that brown cardboard.
Surface shows black print defects and potential mildew/moisture damage

No better than a Excellent Condition IMO.

[Archangel1775]

Rice #3:

Centering off slightly Left to Right
Corners, top left shows some brown
Edges, cant really tell how much white is showing but there is some
Surface, some slight yellow ink under the J and R but nothing terrible

With no other issues, worthy of sending into PSA. Looks Near Mint at least with the highest expected grade of PSA 8.

[Archangel1775]

Overall, you cant go wrong sending any of them in to PSA. Just do it and trust the process. If not and you decide to sell, you aren't going to be able to do sell ungraded cards at graded card prices.

[nj1980]

I appreciate the feedback Archangel.

People in the other forum are claiming that PSA wont grade these because they were in screw down cases?

lol wat

Theres no way they will possibly know. I put them in top loaders and they are fine, nothing that would possibly indicate that they were ever in that kind of a case.

[marinocollector]

Originally Posted by nj1980

Im honestly trying to ascertain their worth and decide which joke of a grading company to submit them to. Beckett graded a Rice rookie a 9 that looked like it had spent a couple nights in a sewer.

Believe me Im well aware that theres a lot of disgruntled losers online who thrive on negativity and "hating". Maybe because their collection sucks, maybe because they're a born loser, who cares.

My intention was to see what these are possibly worth and get the opinion of people who have had more experience with this stuff than me.

Thank you to all who made insightful and meaningful posts. I really appreciate it and BOL to you all.

Why would you be condescending and rude and insulting to the people who honestly wanted to save you from submitting these cards and wasting your finances?
Why would you argue? The consensus is don’t submit, the card condition isn’t that good.
Why would you purposely try and find bad copies of graded cards knowing they’re outliers and don’t deserve those grades?

All everyone was trying to do is point out you don’t have what you think you have. We have give examples. My thoughts? Don’t submit with anyone. But if you’re going to submit, submit to Jesus as your lord and savior because damn you need Jesus with the way you talk in this thread.

[anusinha]

Pro-tip: No one likes the novice guy that asks a bunch of experts for their advice then calls all the experts wrong and stupid when they don't tell him what he wants to hear.

[discodanman45]

Originally Posted by nj1980

I appreciate the feedback Archangel.

People in the other forum are claiming that PSA wont grade these because they were in screw down cases?

lol wat

Theres no way they will possibly know. I put them in top loaders and they are fine, nothing that would possibly indicate that they were ever in that kind of a case.

This is 100% fact by anyone who deals with PSA grading and non-recessed screwdowns. They absolutely know. But I guess you are the expert, so you don't need our advice.

N5 Altered Stock - This includes, but is not limited to characteristics on the card that appear to show some form of alteration such as paper restoration, crease/wrinkle pressing or enhanced gloss.

These 10-year-olds can help you out! Don't keep cards in a screwdown holder.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3AuFgfeKS_A

[hxcmilkshake]

When you think about it, most vintage was in some kind of screwdown. I know all mine were, non recessed with penny sleeves. Not screwed too tight. None ever came back altered. But many have, either the stock gets pressed so thin, or there is paper loss.

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[nj1980]

Originally Posted by hxcmilkshake

When you think about it, most vintage was in some kind of screwdown. I know all mine were, non recessed with penny sleeves. Not screwed too tight. None ever came back altered. But many have, either the stock gets pressed so thin, or there is paper loss.

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Right.

Go read the other thread and theres people swearing up and down that these cards have absolutely no chance of getting graded. Its honestly funny.

Common sense and a semblance of awareness is a good thing too.

I honestly dont know whats wrong with people. I mean Im fully aware humanity has massive problems etc and people are pretty f'ed up honestly but the negativity and hate etc is just off the charts. I feel like people are generally envious etc.

[nj1980]

Anyone think holding onto these long term is the play? It seems cards in general are enjoying a massive resurgence and increase in value. Will that continue?