Best players to never get a single HOF vote

rms13 · 12-31-2022, 07:13 PM

I was watching this video and guy has some good cases. When you look some older guys based on advanced stats that we use today it shows even more how much sham the HOF is. Guys like Devon White and Frank Tanana are probably better then some guys they are voting in these days and they never got one vote.

https://youtu.be/NvWp8tdufww

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JeffG1954 · 12-31-2022, 07:17 PM

Pete Rose

Highstubbs · 12-31-2022, 07:17 PM

Joe Nathan got a couple......but not nearly the look he deserved

awz50 · 12-31-2022, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by JeffG1954

Pete Rose

Lonewolf · 12-31-2022, 07:46 PM

I'm not sure if he ever received a vote, but Brett Butler comes to mind. He always seemed to be batting around .300 and stealing 30-40 bases a year. His drag bunts were also a thing of beauty. His defense always seemed solid, but never great as well.

OhioLawyerF5 · 12-31-2022, 07:49 PM

Did Mike Greenwell get any votes? I remember him being a hobby darling for like a year, then his play didn't really drop off but he disappeared from the hobby. He was a stud.

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Silent George · 12-31-2022, 08:11 PM

Brian Giles

Silent George · 12-31-2022, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by JeffG1954

Pete Rose

Rose has had votes, even if they didn’t count.

TBTC Baseball · 12-31-2022, 08:21 PM

WAR>40
Mark Langston - 50.1 WAR
Devon White - 47.3
Brian Giles - 51.1
J.D. Drew - 44.9
Mike Cameron - 46.7
Carlos Zambrano - 43.9
Frank Tanana - 57.1
Darrell Porter - 40.9
Jim Wynn - 55.7
Sam McDowell - 41.8

Burbot · 12-31-2022, 08:47 PM

Tony Conigliaro

Drew3000 · 12-31-2022, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by TBTC Baseball

WAR>40
Mark Langston - 50.1 WAR
Devon White - 47.3
Brian Giles - 51.1
J.D. Drew - 44.9
Mike Cameron - 46.7
Carlos Zambrano - 43.9
Frank Tanana - 57.1
Darrell Porter - 40.9
Jim Wynn - 55.7
Sam McDowell - 41.8

Just put everyone over 40 WAR in the HOF. Voting is silly, let’s make this easy

JeffG1954 · 12-31-2022, 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Silent George

Rose has had votes, even if they didn’t count.

Interesting....the website I was looking at said he never appeared on a HOF ballot....if true, any votes must have been write in(if that is even allowed).

Silent George · 12-31-2022, 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by JeffG1954

Interesting....the website I was looking at said he never appeared on a HOF ballot....if true, any votes must have been write in(if that is even allowed).

Yes write in, no not counted. But he got several in multiple years

Silent George · 12-31-2022, 09:07 PM

https://amp.foxsports.com/stories/ml...of-fame-ballot

You know how writers whine about the hall not giving them direction with PEDs and such?

Back then they whined about getting specific direction about what the hall wanted and not leaving it up to the writers.

So, that’s the writers in a nutshell.

jrosales · 01-01-2023, 11:03 AM

Willie Davis, who had over 2,500 hits, didn't even appear on the ballot

Hollywood42 · 01-01-2023, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Highstubbs

Joe Nathan got a couple......but not nearly the look he deserved

TBTC Baseball · 01-01-2023, 01:23 PM

I think Javier Vazquez was mentioned in the HoVG thread as never even being on the ballot, and he had 45.6 WAR.

TBTC Baseball · 01-01-2023, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Drew3000

Just put everyone over 40 WAR in the HOF. Voting is silly, let’s make this easy

Question wasn’t “who didn’t get a vote, but should be in HOF”.

sjorgen5 · 01-01-2023, 01:32 PM

Tim Lincecum comes to mind, he got less than 10 votes.

Tom Oates · 01-01-2023, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Lonewolf

I'm not sure if he ever received a vote, but Brett Butler comes to mind. He always seemed to be batting around .300 and stealing 30-40 bases a year. His drag bunts were also a thing of beauty. His defense always seemed solid, but never great as well.

I met Brett when he was coaching the Reno Aces. He was friendly, generous with his autograph, and posed for pictures with a big smile on his face. Seemed like a real class act.

Tom

Robles Fan · 01-01-2023, 03:06 PM

I wonder if Rick Reuschel had ever gotten any votes. Guy had accumulated close to 70 career WAR but seems to have been forgotten. Maybe had he been born 20 years later he’d be painted in a much more favorable light, especially in this day and age where advanced stats are much more appreciated.

TBTC Baseball · 01-01-2023, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Robles Fan

I wonder if Rick Reuschel had ever gotten any votes. Guy had accumulated close to 70 career WAR but seems to have been forgotten. Maybe had he been born 20 years later he’d be painted in a much more favorable light, especially in this day and age where advanced stats are much more appreciated.

2 votes. https://www.baseball-reference.com/a...hof_1997.shtml

panamamyers · 01-01-2023, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by TBTC Baseball

WAR>40
Mark Langston - 50.1 WAR
Devon White - 47.3
Brian Giles - 51.1
J.D. Drew - 44.9
Mike Cameron - 46.7
Carlos Zambrano - 43.9
Frank Tanana - 57.1
Darrell Porter - 40.9
Jim Wynn - 55.7
Sam McDowell - 41.8

Hard to believe Jimmy Wynn never got a vote.
Had he played his home games in a more hitter friendly park instead of the Astrodome would have likely been a prennial all star starter.
Took a lot of walks in an era when that was not quite as understood to be as helpful as it is today.

Jim65 · 01-01-2023, 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robles Fan

I wonder if Rick Reuschel had ever gotten any votes. Guy had accumulated close to 70 career WAR but seems to have been forgotten. Maybe had he been born 20 years later he’d be painted in a much more favorable light, especially in this day and age where advanced stats are much more appreciated.

He received 2 votes in 1997, his only year on the ballot.

Jim65 · 01-01-2023, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by panamamyers

Hard to believe Jimmy Wynn never got a vote.
Had he played his home games in a more hitter friendly park instead of the Astrodome would have likely been a prennial all star starter.
Took a lot of walks in an era when that was not quite as understood to be as helpful as it is today.

Jimmy Wynn is a player that these veteran's committees should give another look. He was a hell of a hitter.

12-31-2022, 07:13 PM	#1
rms13 Member Join Date: Mar 2021 Location: California Posts: 7,040	Best players to never get a single HOF vote I was watching this video and guy has some good cases. When you look some older guys based on advanced stats that we use today it shows even more how much sham the HOF is. Guys like Devon White and Frank Tanana are probably better then some guys they are voting in these days and they never got one vote. https://youtu.be/NvWp8tdufww Sent from my moto g power (2021) using Tapatalk

12-31-2022, 07:46 PM	#5
Lonewolf Member Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: California Posts: 4,479	I'm not sure if he ever received a vote, but Brett Butler comes to mind. He always seemed to be batting around .300 and stealing 30-40 bases a year. His drag bunts were also a thing of beauty. His defense always seemed solid, but never great as well. __________________ Apparently, Money and Computers *CAN* Buy Championships, LOL Last edited by Lonewolf; 12-31-2022 at 07:48 PM.

01-01-2023, 11:03 AM	#15
jrosales Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 2,871 rosales_art	Willie Davis, who had over 2,500 hits, didn't even appear on the ballot __________________ My DeviantArt sketch card gallery, with newly-created artwork uploaded regularly: http://jrosales1.deviantart.com/gallery Always open to discussing sketch card commissions. Please PM me for my availability.

12-31-2022, 07:17 PM	#2
JeffG1954 Member Join Date: May 2018 Posts: 3,150	Pete Rose

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Highstubbs Member Join Date: Dec 2016 Location: Minnesota Posts: 1,970	Joe Nathan got a couple......but not nearly the look he deserved

12-31-2022, 07:49 PM	#6
OhioLawyerF5 Member Join Date: Feb 2022 Posts: 7,137	Did Mike Greenwell get any votes? I remember him being a hobby darling for like a year, then his play didn't really drop off but he disappeared from the hobby. He was a stud. Sent from my SM-A505U using Tapatalk

12-31-2022, 08:11 PM	#7
Silent George Member Join Date: Jun 2021 Posts: 3,147	Brian Giles

12-31-2022, 08:21 PM	#9
TBTC Baseball Member Join Date: Jun 2020 Location: USA Posts: 1,177	WAR>40 Mark Langston - 50.1 WAR Devon White - 47.3 Brian Giles - 51.1 J.D. Drew - 44.9 Mike Cameron - 46.7 Carlos Zambrano - 43.9 Frank Tanana - 57.1 Darrell Porter - 40.9 Jim Wynn - 55.7 Sam McDowell - 41.8

12-31-2022, 08:47 PM	#10
Burbot Member Join Date: Jul 2017 Posts: 154	Tony Conigliaro

12-31-2022, 09:07 PM	#14
Silent George Member Join Date: Jun 2021 Posts: 3,147	https://amp.foxsports.com/stories/ml...of-fame-ballot You know how writers whine about the hall not giving them direction with PEDs and such? Back then they whined about getting specific direction about what the hall wanted and not leaving it up to the writers. So, that’s the writers in a nutshell.

01-01-2023, 01:23 PM	#17
TBTC Baseball Member Join Date: Jun 2020 Location: USA Posts: 1,177	I think Javier Vazquez was mentioned in the HoVG thread as never even being on the ballot, and he had 45.6 WAR.

01-01-2023, 01:32 PM	#19
sjorgen5 Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Nebraska Posts: 5,768 samj605	Tim Lincecum comes to mind, he got less than 10 votes.

01-01-2023, 03:06 PM	#21
Robles Fan Member Join Date: Feb 2021 Location: Northern VA Posts: 730	I wonder if Rick Reuschel had ever gotten any votes. Guy had accumulated close to 70 career WAR but seems to have been forgotten. Maybe had he been born 20 years later he’d be painted in a much more favorable light, especially in this day and age where advanced stats are much more appreciated.