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Old 11-14-2022, 03:44 PM   #39126
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Dang, boxes look nice.

"rare Mini Base Autos and Dual Autograph Mini Book Cards." This means PR through the roof.
why? this looks to be same gig as 2020 which had 13k or so p/r. i don't see anything to indicate this year will be different.
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Old 11-14-2022, 04:05 PM   #39127
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Definitely waiting until tomorrow for the higher limits.
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Old 11-14-2022, 04:13 PM   #39128
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why? this looks to be same gig as 2020 which had 13k or so p/r. i don't see anything to indicate this year will be different.
In 2020 Topps had odds for the autos "1:25 Auto or Dual Auto"

No odds are provided. I hope the odds are the same as 2020 but I don't like it when it is stated as such in the description.
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Old 11-14-2022, 06:24 PM   #39129
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why? this looks to be same gig as 2020 which had 13k or so p/r. i don't see anything to indicate this year will be different.
The substantially larger autograph checklist has me worried that it's indicative of a larger print run. It was 10 and 4 for regular autographs and booklets in the 2020 release, but it's 29 and 5 this year. They did a similar thing between 2019 and 2020 releases(it was 7 and 4 in 2019), and it resulted in the print run jumping from 9,700 to 13,401. I guess it's possible that it just means that the set is more autographed-based than the previous years, but it's very unlike Topps to bump up their production cost of a set like that and not increase either the price per unit or the overall print run.

I guess we'll know when we see how many parallel versions are in the thing. Last set it was just four(pink, blue, red, platinum), but I'd be kinda surprised if we don't see another parallel or two in this to expand the print run. I just hope it's not something irresponsible like Purple Sparkle /299 because the low overall print run is one of the few remaining points of intrigue about the mini set.
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Old 11-14-2022, 06:58 PM   #39130
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Who cares about the shipping. If public is more for quantity 12.00 isn’t going to make or break you...
I agree. Or more to the point...$25 per box is solid. And, $31 per box is still solid.
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Old 11-14-2022, 07:03 PM   #39131
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The substantially larger autograph checklist has me worried that it's indicative of a larger print run. It was 10 and 4 for regular autographs and booklets in the 2020 release, but it's 29 and 5 this year. They did a similar thing between 2019 and 2020 releases(it was 7 and 4 in 2019), and it resulted in the print run jumping from 9,700 to 13,401. I guess it's possible that it just means that the set is more autographed-based than the previous years, but it's very unlike Topps to bump up their production cost of a set like that and not increase either the price per unit or the overall print run.

I guess we'll know when we see how many parallel versions are in the thing. Last set it was just four(pink, blue, red, platinum), but I'd be kinda surprised if we don't see another parallel or two in this to expand the print run. I just hope it's not something irresponsible like Purple Sparkle /299 because the low overall print run is one of the few remaining points of intrigue about the mini set.

Just Julio being in this product makes this worth it at the price despite the print run. Not to mention the other really good rookies.
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Old 11-14-2022, 07:21 PM   #39132
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I will guess PR at 25,000 boxes for the minis.
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Old 11-14-2022, 07:22 PM   #39133
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Even if they double the print run, it would still only be around 800 per card.
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Old 11-14-2022, 08:17 PM   #39134
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Not sure if discussed already but is this first time for an imaged box for minis? Weren’t they previously just generic boxes? Maybe I am wrong
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Old 11-15-2022, 07:25 AM   #39135
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Old 11-15-2022, 10:17 AM   #39136
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Not sure if discussed already but is this first time for an imaged box for minis? Weren’t they previously just generic boxes? Maybe I am wrong
Last release was 2020 which was just the Black Topps on Demand box.
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Old 11-15-2022, 11:36 AM   #39137
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Mini is up: https://www.topps.com/jkbdknsflbergi...bgjranlfa.html

Limit 3 it looks like.
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Old 11-15-2022, 11:37 AM   #39138
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Topps mini is live for public
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Old 11-15-2022, 11:38 AM   #39139
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2 orders of 3, so a limit of 6 total.
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Old 11-15-2022, 11:42 AM   #39140
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2 orders of 3, so a limit of 6 total.
2nd order limit is 1 if you bought 2 yesterday with MC membership.
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Old 11-15-2022, 11:43 AM   #39141
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I'm not in love with the 3 per order. They are really taxing on the shipping with these.....
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Old 11-15-2022, 11:43 AM   #39142
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2nd order limit is 1?
Not for me, but I didn't order any yesterday. Did you order 2 yesterday?
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Old 11-15-2022, 11:44 AM   #39143
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2nd order limit is 1?
wonder if that counts the 2 from yesterday? did you purchase yesterday?
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Old 11-15-2022, 11:45 AM   #39144
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$28 to ship 6 boxes on 2 orders? Lol no thanks
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Old 11-15-2022, 11:45 AM   #39145
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This is the dumbest release of all time with the shipping. I used to buy 250-400 packs of this every year, and have 5 customers that want sets. Now i can get 6 packs and build about 15% of the set? #@#@#@#@ing Topps, only a handful of people buy these
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Old 11-15-2022, 11:47 AM   #39146
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Last release was 2020 which was just the Black Topps on Demand box.
Oddly enough, I think a nice box raises the floor of these quite a bit. Mini has always suffered from the perception of being a cheap niche knockoff and the generic box only supported that perception.

Will Mini finally get the love it deserves?! Granted, that's the question the handful of us that like Mini ask ourselves every single year and the answer's always the same.
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Old 11-15-2022, 11:47 AM   #39147
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wonder if that counts the 2 from yesterday? did you purchase yesterday?
Yes...so MC folks who held off yesterday can get 2 orders of 3 today. Economy shipping is $14 for the 3 boxes.
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Old 11-15-2022, 11:50 AM   #39148
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I bought another 3 on my sons account

Even with shipping (yes I know, in reality it would only cost them $5 to ship 3 boxes) it’s still a great deal.

I think the 3 box limit is good in that it may limit bots.

No complaints here.
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Old 11-15-2022, 11:51 AM   #39149
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Would have been better waiting. Ordered two yesterday with MC, then 3 today with $14 shipping, then the last 1 box you can buy separately is $10 shipping. So maybe the print run is lower than anticipated with such a small number allowed? What was the max in 2019 and 2020?
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Old 11-15-2022, 11:51 AM   #39150
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Mini should be a reduced checklist like logofractor. If I am buying the max # of boxes, I should have a half-way decent chance of completing a base set.

That said, I'm a self-loathing mini-loving degenerate who will take what they give me.
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