CMC to 9ers

[Grid]

Originally Posted by packman80

CMC signed his big deal after 2019 season made about $38.5 million with the Panthers who got 16 games out of him in 2 1/3 seasons with 1,060 yards rushing 768 yards rec and 8 rushing TDs and 3 Rec TDs.

This breaks out to $21,061 per yard. $3.5MIL per TD and $2.4MIL per game played.

[amg2002]

Does this do anything for him "hobby wise"?

[Jed Clampett]

Originally Posted by rms13

CMac Deebo and Aiyuk is a pretty dynamic combo. Too bad they still have Jimmy G at QB

I’d still take Jimmy over 17 other starting quarterbacks in the league

[88horsepower]

Feels like this particular Niners regime has a habit of giving away draft stock for questionable commodities.

[brothertona]

This move reeks of desperation just like the Trey Lance deal, good for Kyle Shanahan - it's a good look for him.

[no10pin]

Originally Posted by brothertona

This move reeks of desperation just like the Trey Lance deal, good for Kyle Shanahan - it's a good look for him.

Upgrading a position without giving up a 1st round pick is desperation?

[brothertona]

Is a player that has been consistently injured going to a team with a not solid QB situation that is sitting at 3-3 and not really looking very good.

[tjforce]

Originally Posted by amg2002

Does this do anything for him "hobby wise"?

Can't imagine it hurts (for now).

Sends him to one of the biggest collecting fan bases in the league.

That being said, I think he needs to put up pretty quickly to really get people on board.

[49erRCCollector]

Originally Posted by brothertona

Is a player that has been consistently injured going to a team with a not solid QB situation that is sitting at 3-3 and not really looking very good.

The QB is Jimmy G. Same guy that led them to two NFC championship games (including last year) and a SB.

They are 3-3 because of injuries, not talent. They played the falcons down a ton of starters.

This is not a great take.

[asujbl]

I don't care about either of these teams... not even a little... and I'm not invested in any of these guys so my quick and dirty opinion

I'd be pumped as a Panthers fan - I don't care that they didn't get a first - those 4 picks is a good haul for a guy that is injured all the time. I wouldn't necessarily be pumped for the "tank" but at this point you might as well

I'd be meh as a Niners fan - In theory I get that we're all now supposed to be afraid of the CMAC, Deebo, Aiyuk, and Kittle death lineup but it's still Jimmy and you've now gone all in for a while (after trading picks to move up to get Lance) and you'll never convince me that CMAC is what puts you over the top against the top flight teams

So if I was doing one of those ESPN grade articles...

Panthers get a B+
Niners get a B-

[packman80]

Originally Posted by asujbl

I don't care about either of these teams... not even a little... and I'm not invested in any of these guys so my quick and dirty opinion

I'd be pumped as a Panthers fan - I don't care that they didn't get a first - those 4 picks is a good haul for a guy that is injured all the time. I wouldn't necessarily be pumped for the "tank" but at this point you might as well

I'd be meh as a Niners fan - In theory I get that we're all now supposed to be afraid of the CMAC, Deebo, Aiyuk, and Kittle death lineup but it's still Jimmy and you've now gone all in for a while (after trading picks to move up to get Lance) and you'll never convince me that CMAC is what puts you over the top against the top flight teams

So if I was doing one of those ESPN grade articles...

Panthers get a B+
Niners get a B-

Yeah Panthers are in full rebuild going to take few years of good drafting to start to rebuild that roster. Need to get as many picks as they can to be able to stockpile picks and have ammo to be able to move around to get higher in draft.

[DontToewsMeBro]

D-E-S-P-E-R-A-T-I-O-N

Thy name is the 49ers

President, Coach, GM all see themselves in trouble after this debacle of a season so far.

CMC will add zero to the 49ers...... can't give Deebo and CMC the ball at the same time.

And neither plays O-line do they?

[packman80]

Originally Posted by DontToewsMeBro

D-E-S-P-E-R-A-T-I-O-N

Thy name is the 49ers

President, Coach, GM all see themselves in trouble after this debacle of a season so far.

CMC will add zero to the 49ers...... can't give Deebo and CMC the ball at the same time.

And neither plays O-line do they?

Remember Deebo bitched about playing RB this will free him up more as a WR. Well at least until CMC plays like 2-3 games and ends up on IR.

[mfw13]

Perfect example of poor-decision making by the 49ers front office.

The 49ers problem isn't that they don't have enough skill players....it's that their offensive line is mediocre, especially with Trent Williams out injured. They're starting rookies/unproven players are center and both guard spots, and it shows. And McGlinchy, even when healthy, has been no better than average at right tackle.

So unless CMC can play offensive line, he's not going to solve the 49ers offensive problems.

[BonVoyage]

Yeah, the problem isn't a lack of shifty weapons. The OLine ranks 24th by Football Outsiders. That's down from 11th last year and 8th in 2019.

[lambeauleap87]

Originally Posted by rman112

Which is interesting, because that's how the Niners have treated the position. So he'll probably play a lot of receiver.

The 49ers have been wasting assets on RBs like it's nobody's business lately. Including the CMC trade, they've now spent a second (CMC), three thirds (Sermon, TDP, CMC), a fourth (CMC), and a sixth (Mitchell), plus a four year, $30MM deal for McKinnon (and the $6MM/year overlap for Tevin Coleman and Raheem Mostert in that window).

I think it just seems like the 49ers believe RBs didn't matter because they were struggling to find many good ones (or ones that could stay healthy).

All said, I like this trade for both teams - the Panthers can net out the terrible Darnold/Mayfield trades with this one, and the 49ers can just do some crazy match-up stuff offensively. Makes sense to me, all things considered.

[rms13]

Originally Posted by Jed Clampett

I’d still take Jimmy over 17 other starting quarterbacks in the league

Starting QBs that I would take Jimmy over:

Definitely:

1 Panthers QB

Maybe:

2. Brissett
3. Steelers (definitely Trubisky, maybe Pickett)
3. Mariotta
4. Jets QBs
5. Fields
6. Goff
7. Wentz
8. Wilson
9 Tannehill


So that's 1 starting QB I would definitely take Jimmy over and 9 maybes. Definitely not 17

[rms13]

Originally Posted by 49erRCCollector

The QB is Jimmy G. Same guy that led them to two NFC championship games (including last year) and a SB.

They are 3-3 because of injuries, not talent. They played the falcons down a ton of starters.

This is not a great take.

Did he really lead them to two NFC Championship games and a SB? He's averaged 160 yards per game with 4 TD and 6 Int in 6 play off games.

[Grid]

Originally Posted by rms13

Starting QBs that I would take Jimmy over:

Definitely:

1 Panthers QB

Maybe:

2. Brissett
3. Steelers (definitely Trubisky, maybe Pickett)
3. Mariotta
4. Jets QBs
5. Fields
6. Goff
7. Wentz
8. Wilson
9 Tannehill


So that's 1 starting QB I would definitely take Jimmy over and 9 maybes. Definitely not 17

You would take Davis Mills over Jimmy G? I wouldn't. I'd also take Jimmy G over whoever is starting these days for the Saints (Dalton or Jameis). I'd also take him over Kyler Murray & Geno Smith (The 49ers just beat him good) right now.

Thats 13 on my end. Maybe not 17, but close

[rms13]

Originally Posted by Grid

You would take Davis Mills over Jimmy G? I wouldn't. I'd also take Jimmy G over whoever is starting these days for the Saints (Dalton or Jameis). I'd also take him over Kyler Murray & Geno Smith (The 49ers just beat him good) right now.

Thats 13 on my end. Maybe not 17, but close

I like Mills a lot. I would definitely take him. I think he'd be much better than Jimmy with the weapons 49ers have. I would take Jameis. I think Dalton would be even with Jimmy. I'd take Kyler or Geno over Jimmy right now. At least all of those guys can get 300 yards passing and give you 50+ rushing.

[49erRCCollector]

Originally Posted by rms13

Did he really lead them to two NFC Championship games and a SB? He's averaged 160 yards per game with 4 TD and 6 Int in 6 play off games.

Yes, he did.

[rms13]

Originally Posted by 49erRCCollector

Yes, he did.

Technically the best post season game of his career was when he went 6-8 for 77 yards 0 TD and 0 INT while handing the ball off 38 times vs Packers in NFC Championship. 49ers fans must have low expectations.

[49erRCCollector]

Originally Posted by rms13

Technically the best post season game of his career was when he went 6-8 for 77 yards 0 TD and 0 INT while handing the ball off 38 times vs Packers in NFC Championship. 49ers fans must have low expectations.

Well, they won. Decisively. The packers couldn’t stop the run. At all. At any point in that game. Went to the Super Bowl.

Not sure how that’s low expectations. Jimmy’s W/L is great. When he’s out, they are terrible.

Niners Fans have 5 Super Bowls in 7 tries.

What else you got?

[88horsepower]

It's one thing to take a chance on a franchise QB, but when you sacrifice that much draft capital to get him (three 1st round picks and a 3rd), even if the player turns out to be a good pick, what good is he if he's ill-supported for the next several years because the team sacrificed so many future picks to acquire him? It's not like they were chasing a "can't miss generational prospect" like Peyton Manning or John Elway. We're talking about a college quarterback with one full year of actual playing time under his belt before he was selected. The Niners aren't going anywhere anytime soon. Sure, they might make the playoffs by virtue of the division they play in being a total mess, but they are not a "one player away" team who just punched their Super Bowl ticket.

This is an act of desperation on Shanahan's part, and Lynch's to a certain extent, who knows he's screwed the team with the decisions he's made and needs to win now if he has any hope of keeping his job. McCaffrey hasn't played a full season since 2019. Now the team, already short the aforementioned picks from the Lance deal, now has given up four more picks and have decimated their 2023 draft. They already are minus their 1st rounder from 2023 and now have given up their 2nd, 3rd, and 4th round picks from 2023, leaving them with no future. Why? Because Shanahan knows he won't be around to draft what few picks they do have left if they don't win it all this year, which is just about all he has left if he wants to save his job. The guy is a snake oil salesman, as a friend of mine once put it, and I agree. He's smoke and mirrors as a coach and no substance.

[asujbl]

Originally Posted by 88horsepower

It's one thing to take a chance on a franchise QB, but when you sacrifice that much draft capital to get him (three 1st round picks and a 3rd), even if the player turns out to be a good pick, what good is he if he's ill-supported for the next several years because the team sacrificed so many future picks to acquire him? It's not like they were chasing a "can't miss generational prospect" like Peyton Manning or John Elway. We're talking about a college quarterback with one full year of actual playing time under his belt before he was selected. The Niners aren't going anywhere anytime soon. Sure, they might make the playoffs by virtue of the division they play in being a total mess, but they are not a "one player away" team who just punched their Super Bowl ticket.

This is an act of desperation on Shanahan's part, and Lynch's to a certain extent, who knows he's screwed the team with the decisions he's made and needs to win now if he has any hope of keeping his job. McCaffrey hasn't played a full season since 2019. Now the team, already short the aforementioned picks from the Lance deal, now has given up four more picks and have decimated their 2023 draft. They already are minus their 1st rounder from 2023 and now have given up their 2nd, 3rd, and 4th round picks from 2023, leaving them with no future. Why? Because Shanahan knows he won't be around to draft what few picks they do have left if they don't win it all this year, which is just about all he has left if he wants to save his job. The guy is a snake oil salesman, as a friend of mine once put it, and I agree. He's smoke and mirrors as a coach and no substance.

This

He’s still a RB

Browns should shop Chubb (half kidding) if we could get 4-6 picks out of him