Mbappe Cyrillic on PWCC Premier: Where does it land?

[Ianhatcher]

Ooof...already a 33% drop in one month. Guess the ol Blowout pump didn't work on this one lol

[bobbycass]

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[k13]

$12k is still too much for a $50 card.

[ksemmel]

Originally Posted by k13

$12k is still too much for a $50 card.

12,463 posts is too much for someone that doesn't actually ever provide content or substance...

[Jimi]

Originally Posted by BiggNuttz

Just to confirm, the card sold for $18,000 including buyers premium (I believe, although it is not completely clear on the website). Pretty much bang in line with my original estimate of +/- $20,000. It probably ended on the low side, just because the market in general seems to be quiet, and buyers do not feel the need to be aggressive.

I mentioned this previously in another thread, but I think it bears repeating here. If you are currently looking to sell any middle to higher end cards, you are taking a MASSIVE risk running them at auction. Your best bet is to either just continue to hold in your collection, or if you really need/want to sell, then I would only go with a negotiated sale. You want to be able to control the variables, not let something get auctioned off into a soft market, during the summer holidays. As always, just my opinion.

Regards

Running into this very same issue (auction or no auction) with a big card I have so I've been keeping an eye on Goldin and PWCC's most recent, and it's not encouraging. May just vault/fixed price with one of them instead. Haven't done that before so curious what others experiences have been like.

[BiggNuttz]

Originally Posted by Jimi

Running into this very same issue (auction or no auction) with a big card I have so I've been keeping an eye on Goldin and PWCC's most recent, and it's not encouraging. May just vault/fixed price with one of them instead. Haven't done that before so curious what others experiences have been like.

I cannot comment on using any of the vault services, but I am certain some of the other members here can. What I can do is offer a couple of suggestions, the first of which would be repeating what I said previously, and you quoted. Selling anything at auction right now is taking a huge risk, and your card could easily sell for a fraction of what you believe it is worth.

The idea of selling by fixed price/negotiated sale is good, but there is another point you should keep in mind. It has been my experience that currently, people are only looking for "steals", and this type of listing will bring them out of the woodwork. I am not talking lowball offers, I am talking offers of $150 for cards where the last sale was $1,800. I am sure that there are many members who have been having the exact same experience, and it has been mentioned in many threads in many of the sub-forums.

The final point, and this is only a matter of opinion. You need to be careful about the card getting "stale" in the market. What I mean is a listing that just sits and sits without a sale. When this happens people will begin to look past the card and forget about it. I am sure you have done it many times yourself on Ebay, where you see the same cards day after day, week after week, month after month. Even though you may have had an interest, by virtue of the fact that they just sit there, interest slowly wanes.

Overall, it is just a very tough time to sell good cards. Unless it is a situation where you absolutely have to sell, or maybe you are redeploying the funds into another card(s) at lower prices, then I would tend to just hang tight for the time being.

Best of luck with whatever you decide.

Regards

[boxbuster7]

Originally Posted by BiggNuttz

The final sale price for the second card at PWCC (PA16 lot #364) was $12,000 inclusive of buyers premium. That is a 33% drop from the previous sale of $18,000, just one month prior. I think there are likely multiple reasons for the drop in price achieved, some specific to this card, some more related to the card market/soccer card market in general.

Regards

I think this post is very important for people thinking about using a consignment service.

Unless you have a one of a kind spectacular card that is going to draw multiple bidders, DON'T do it.

There is too much variance in realized prices, which people mistakingly (these reps are salesmen people!) use as comps for their cards. I've seen it time and time again. X sold for a lot. Y should sell for the same. Don't fall for it people!

[BiggNuttz]

Originally Posted by boxbuster7

I think this post is very important for people thinking about using a consignment service.

Unless you have a one of a kind spectacular card that is going to draw multiple bidders, DON'T do it.

There is too much variance in realized prices, which people mistakingly (these reps are salesmen people!) use as comps for their cards. I've seen it time and time again. X sold for a lot. Y should sell for the same. Don't fall for it people!

The only comment I want to make on this post is........

[KhalDrogo]

Originally Posted by BiggNuttz

Overall, it is just a very tough time to sell good cards. Unless it is a situation where you absolutely have to sell, or maybe you are redeploying the funds into another card(s) at lower prices, then I would tend to just hang tight for the time being.l

Hang tight for what? The rebound? Most of these cards will never see anything close to their previous highs. Time is money. If you have no plans to keep the card, get out now.

[gododgersfan]

That is a big drop. However, I believe this is more related to the overall market trend.

[Brazenways]

Originally Posted by KhalDrogo

Hang tight for what? The rebound? Most of these cards will never see anything close to their previous highs. Time is money. If you have no plans to keep the card, get out now.

^^^100%

BO turning into a echo chamber of HODL LOL.

[BiggNuttz]

Originally Posted by KhalDrogo

Hang tight for what? The rebound? Most of these cards will never see anything close to their previous highs. Time is money. If you have no plans to keep the card, get out now.

My comment was made from the point of view as a collector. Maybe my point was not clear. As a collector, if you do not need the money, and do not have another card you are looking to roll into, then just keep what you have and be happy. As an investor on the other hand, maybe it is a different story. I do agree that the previous highs we saw will not be seen again anytime soon. Beyond that, what you have and what your goals are will determine how you proceed. The soccer card market is so broad, with so many niches, and even the same card in different grades can be hot and cold at the same time. Look at the recent bump Haaland cards have seen. PSA 10 Bundesliga Refractors went from a $2,200 sale on the 20th August, to a last sale of $5,800 on the 17th September. That is +$3,600 in less than 30 days. As an investor, was blowing out that card at $2,200 a great "Time is money" move?

Regards

[Ianhatcher]

Originally Posted by SoccerRCs

Hey guys. Full disclosure, I own an ungraded Mbappe Cyrillic. I bought it years ago in the belief that it would eventually be the most valuable WC Prizm parallel aside from the gold. Why? Simply because, while you will see plenty more blue, purple, green, orange or whatever other color parallels for the rest of Mbappe’s career, you will never see another card with his name written in Cyrillic script.

Current bid is 10k. I assume it’s in Premier because they think it can go over 25k. Any guesses as to where this one lands?

Hope you sold yours before this.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/265993289027

That card didn't dip it went straight off a cliff.

[YayNJ]

that's still too high

[brewtown107]

How is the comic sans version doing? SSSSSSSP!