2022-23 Season - Discussion Thread - Page 10

netmasters · 09-19-2022, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by k13

Without Haaland Man City would win every game just like last year.
Barcelona was toothless last year.
They could not even beat Cadiz.

Barcelona was 16-3-3 from January 1 on in league last year and they drew and lost the last 2 games of the year when they played the young guys and everyone's mind was on the beach since 2nd place was wrapped up and they had no hope at the title. They beat Real Madrid 4-0 if you don't remember. They had terrible injuries and weren't very good to start the year. Once they brought in the transfers and got healthy everything was fine. They just got so jealous Of Real Madrid winning UCL that they blew a bunch of money to try and keep up.

Against the one good team Lewandowski played against this year he fell flat on his face. If he would've been the difference against Bayern I think you could have the debate that he has had the better start to the year. Just him blowing multiple chances in the game makes the debate senseless.

mwheeler27 · 09-19-2022, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Gin&Juice

Not taking anything away from Haaland-- he is phenomenal. But, his accomplishments this season are not more impressive or meaningful than Lewandowski's.

Are you sure?

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Originally Posted by netmasters

Goals that made a difference in the result of the game. Meaning if you take away Haaland and Lewandowskis goals the number of game outcomes that would have changed.
Lewandowski 0
Haaland 5

Gin&Juice · 09-19-2022, 02:50 PM

Yep, I'm sure. The stat above is meaningless. The notion that Haaland single-handedly changed the outcome of five games this season is silly. Do you really think that Man City would have 2 wins and 5 losses in the Premier League this season if they did not have Haaland?

And, the fact that Barcelona has won more comfortably does not mean that Lewandowski's goals have been less significant in the context of the game. He has scored the first or second goal of the game in every game that Barcelona has won this season.

And, to be clear, I am not trying to take anything away from Haaland. Man City is better with him. He may be the best striker in the world at the moment. But, Barcelona is also much better with Lewandowski who has his own pretty strong claim for still being the best all-around striker in the world at the moment.

mwheeler27 · 09-19-2022, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Gin&Juice

Yep, I'm sure. The stat above is meaningless. The notion that Haaland single-handedly changed the outcome of five games this season is silly. Do you really think that Man City would have 2 wins and 5 losses in the Premier League this season if they did not have Haaland?

And, the fact that Barcelona has won more comfortably does not mean that Lewandowski's goals have been less significant in the context of the game. He has scored the first or second goal of the game in every game that Barcelona has won this season.

It's at least a small stretch to say, "the stat above is meaningless". Obviously that position isn't super easy to defend. Sometimes things really are that simple, though not always.

I'm a big Lewandowski fan. I'm surprised he doesn't get more hobby love. I'm hoping the day will come when he does.

k13 · 09-19-2022, 04:48 PM

Haaland to score 30 or more goals is +100 even money.

Not sure on the book limits but that's ballsy.
Expecting him to not score 20 goals in the next 31 games or get injured....hmm.

Some other books at 35.

k13 · 09-19-2022, 06:33 PM

Barcelona have announced profits of €98 million for the 2021-22 campaign and predict they will make another €271m in the current season.

The experts here said they were broke and going bankrupt.

YayNJ · 09-19-2022, 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by k13

Barcelona have announced profits of €98 million for the 2021-22 campaign and predict they will make another €271m in the current season.

The experts here said they were broke and going bankrupt.

they literally just sold half of their rights to their own clubs trademark and merchandise, barca studios and a hefty percentage (40%) of their TV rights and sold the naming rights to their stadium and haven't paid a number of their players wages ... just to survive.

gone.

yiguiri2002 · 09-19-2022, 07:07 PM

I think they'll be fine, they are just gonna end up paying a big price. I see them moving at least a couple of young players in the future for a few hundred of millions to help things.

k13 · 09-19-2022, 07:13 PM

I'm just teasing you guys. I don't care about Barcelona.

Everything in soccer is corrupt and that's what I assume.

YayNJ · 09-25-2022, 02:51 PM

France getting brutalised by Denmark.

Raj3sh · 09-26-2022, 01:59 AM

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Originally Posted by k13

I'm just teasing you guys. I don't care about Barcelona.

Everything in soccer is corrupt and that's what I assume.

you like Lewa though

k13 · 09-26-2022, 12:29 PM

Italy is +105 to beat Hungary now.
How embarrassing...

LittleJimmies · 10-01-2022, 09:17 AM

Arsenal's attack is just relentless. So much young talent up front.

CiaranGQ · 10-02-2022, 03:13 AM

Inter’s start to season has been very sub-optimal, with a 2-1 defeat to Roma yesterday evening; as I sit here at Linate Airport for flight back to London.

Serie A looks very open this season. Napoli in great form but Atalanta, Roma and Milan challenging. I don’t see a convincing winner but, rather, expect this season’s Scudetto could go to the wire.

k13 · 10-02-2022, 08:41 AM

EPL has turned into a joke league.

richo · 10-02-2022, 08:43 AM

Well this is a reality check for Man Utd. Am sure they will improve this season, but honestly the difference in class is huge. What a player Haaland is.

mwheeler27 · 10-02-2022, 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by richo

Well this is a reality check for Man Utd. Am sure they will improve this season, but honestly the difference in class is huge. What a player Haaland is.

And Foden!

YayNJ · 10-02-2022, 09:15 AM

RIP to those that were spending thousands and thousands on Sancho rookies, while Foden was still going for 99 cents.

lol

mwheeler27 · 10-02-2022, 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by YayNJ

RIP to those that were spending thousands and thousands on Sancho rookies, while Foden was still going for 99 cents.

lol

Well, some of us like to be diversified:

Only 61 copies, and one of his earliest cards.

k13 · 10-02-2022, 09:47 AM

ManU should have asked Serbia for some defensive help.

mwheeler27 · 10-02-2022, 09:49 AM

Haaland has his 3rd STRAIGHT home hat trick!!!

mwheeler27 · 10-02-2022, 10:04 AM

I think it's been over 50 years since a player from City scored a hat trick in the derby. Then this:

Congrats Foden!

LittleJimmies · 10-02-2022, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by richo

Well this is a reality check for Man Utd. Am sure they will improve this season, but honestly the difference in class is huge. What a player Haaland is.

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Originally Posted by mwheeler27

And Foden!

And also the best player on the team, De Bruyne!

mikee1186 · 10-03-2022, 08:06 AM

KDB is one of the absolute best. The service he's providing is incredible and he makes it looks easy.

YayNJ · 10-03-2022, 08:47 AM

No massive love in the hobby, which is a bit sad.

Maybe one day. Modric is only just starting to see prices that somewhat reflect his legacy. Maybe Muller, Iniesta and KDB are next. lol.

09-19-2022, 02:50 PM	#228
Gin&Juice Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Yardley, PA Posts: 1,163 edelsteind	Yep, I'm sure. The stat above is meaningless. The notion that Haaland single-handedly changed the outcome of five games this season is silly. Do you really think that Man City would have 2 wins and 5 losses in the Premier League this season if they did not have Haaland? And, the fact that Barcelona has won more comfortably does not mean that Lewandowski's goals have been less significant in the context of the game. He has scored the first or second goal of the game in every game that Barcelona has won this season. And, to be clear, I am not trying to take anything away from Haaland. Man City is better with him. He may be the best striker in the world at the moment. But, Barcelona is also much better with Lewandowski who has his own pretty strong claim for still being the best all-around striker in the world at the moment. Last edited by Gin&Juice; 09-19-2022 at 03:00 PM.

09-19-2022, 07:07 PM	#233
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10-03-2022, 08:47 AM	#250
YayNJ Member Join Date: May 2020 Location: London / Oahu Posts: 8,390 hanelcocards	No massive love in the hobby, which is a bit sad. Maybe one day. Modric is only just starting to see prices that somewhat reflect his legacy. Maybe Muller, Iniesta and KDB are next. lol. Last edited by YayNJ; 10-03-2022 at 08:49 AM.

09-19-2022, 04:48 PM	#230
k13 Banned Join Date: Jan 2014 Posts: 12,617	Haaland to score 30 or more goals is +100 even money. Not sure on the book limits but that's ballsy. Expecting him to not score 20 goals in the next 31 games or get injured....hmm. Some other books at 35.

09-19-2022, 06:33 PM	#231
k13 Banned Join Date: Jan 2014 Posts: 12,617	Barcelona have announced profits of €98 million for the 2021-22 campaign and predict they will make another €271m in the current season. The experts here said they were broke and going bankrupt.

09-19-2022, 07:13 PM	#234
k13 Banned Join Date: Jan 2014 Posts: 12,617	I'm just teasing you guys. I don't care about Barcelona. Everything in soccer is corrupt and that's what I assume.

09-25-2022, 02:51 PM	#235
YayNJ Member Join Date: May 2020 Location: London / Oahu Posts: 8,390 hanelcocards	France getting brutalised by Denmark.

09-26-2022, 12:29 PM	#237
k13 Banned Join Date: Jan 2014 Posts: 12,617	Italy is +105 to beat Hungary now. How embarrassing...

10-01-2022, 09:17 AM	#238
LittleJimmies Member Join Date: Sep 2019 Location: Chicago Posts: 5,548	Arsenal's attack is just relentless. So much young talent up front.

10-02-2022, 03:13 AM	#239
CiaranGQ Member Join Date: Jul 2021 Posts: 142	Inter’s start to season has been very sub-optimal, with a 2-1 defeat to Roma yesterday evening; as I sit here at Linate Airport for flight back to London. Serie A looks very open this season. Napoli in great form but Atalanta, Roma and Milan challenging. I don’t see a convincing winner but, rather, expect this season’s Scudetto could go to the wire.

10-02-2022, 08:41 AM	#240
k13 Banned Join Date: Jan 2014 Posts: 12,617	EPL has turned into a joke league.

10-02-2022, 08:43 AM	#241
richo Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: UK Posts: 2,236	Well this is a reality check for Man Utd. Am sure they will improve this season, but honestly the difference in class is huge. What a player Haaland is.

10-02-2022, 09:15 AM	#243
YayNJ Member Join Date: May 2020 Location: London / Oahu Posts: 8,390 hanelcocards	RIP to those that were spending thousands and thousands on Sancho rookies, while Foden was still going for 99 cents. lol

10-02-2022, 09:47 AM	#245
k13 Banned Join Date: Jan 2014 Posts: 12,617	ManU should have asked Serbia for some defensive help.

10-02-2022, 09:49 AM	#246
mwheeler27 Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: NorthEast Kansas Posts: 18,419 mwheeler27 mwheeler27	Haaland has his 3rd STRAIGHT home hat trick!!!

10-02-2022, 10:04 AM	#247
mwheeler27 Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: NorthEast Kansas Posts: 18,419 mwheeler27 mwheeler27	I think it's been over 50 years since a player from City scored a hat trick in the derby. Then this: Congrats Foden!

10-03-2022, 08:06 AM	#249
mikee1186 Member Join Date: Aug 2021 Location: TN Posts: 2,158 mikee1186	KDB is one of the absolute best. The service he's providing is incredible and he makes it looks easy.