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Old 09-13-2022, 04:01 PM   #1
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Is it normal for an eBay seller to want to change the shipping method/fee AFTER the auctions ends?
I typically take shipping into account when bidding.
I got this message because I paid RIGHt after the bidding ended at like $21.50
Listed shipping was $0.99

"Appreciate the immediate payment, but I was going to update the shipping as I now have to pay $3.50 for USPS First Class since this went for just over $20.

Next time please wait until an invoice is sent for items that show eBay Standard Mail that go over $20".

So they were just going to charge me more? LOL
This is the only mention in the description of shipping details besides the $0.99 price in the listing.

"I DO COMBINE SHIPPING (7 days MAX). Each additional listing costs an extra .10 cents, barring it's not a large lot (those can be more). If you're someone who DOESN'T often pay for what they win, don't bother bidding. Everyone else is welcome. Check out my other auctions!

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Old 09-13-2022, 04:04 PM   #2
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Is it normal for an eBay seller to want to change the shipping method/fee AFTER the auctions ends?
I typically take shipping into account when bidding.
I got this message because I paid RIGHt after the bidding ended at like $21.50
Listed shipping was $0.99

"Appreciate the immediate payment, but I was going to update the shipping as I now have to pay $3.50 for USPS First Class since this went for just over $20.

Next time please wait until an invoice is sent for items that show eBay Standard Mail that go over $20".

So they were just going to charge me more? LOL
This is the only mention in the description of shipping details besides the $0.99 price in the listing.

"I DO COMBINE SHIPPING (7 days MAX). Each additional listing costs an extra .10 cents, barring it's not a large lot (those can be more). If you're someone who DOESN'T often pay for what they win, don't bother bidding. Everyone else is welcome. Check out my other auctions!

Shipped with eBay Standard Mail."
Sounds like he can eat the $3.
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Old 09-13-2022, 04:09 PM   #3
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Thats on him. I sell on ebay and sometimes and will list cards for auction with the cheap ebay shipping option thinking it probably ends under $20 but sometimes they end up over $20 and I cover the difference. Its a risk on my end as the seller. Tell him to pound dirt.


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Old 09-13-2022, 04:13 PM   #4
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Thats on him. I sell on ebay and sometimes and will list cards for auction with the cheap ebay shipping option thinking it probably ends under $20 but sometimes they end up over $20 and I cover the difference. Its a risk on my end as the seller. Tell him to pound dirt.


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Same here, I've been on the selling side of this a bunch of times, just have to eat the extra shipping. Gotta stay with the advertised cost.
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Old 09-13-2022, 04:13 PM   #5
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I’m not aware of any USPS rules that say it costs extra to ship a card once it hits a sale price of $20 (unless maybe it’s international). Sounds like this may be the seller’s own preference? If so, is there anything in his description that reserves the right for him to upcharge the shipping based on the final sale amount?

I’d also check to see how he says he’s going to ship it for 99 cents (bubble mailer vs. Plain White Envelope)- if it’s PWE and you refuse the up-charge, then he can just decide to send it to you in PWE- not sure if you want that for a $20 card….
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Old 09-13-2022, 04:14 PM   #6
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This is 100% on the seller. Same as above, if I am running a bunch of cards under $20 and a few auctions go above $20, I cover the difference (and that's a win for me as a seller who clearly was expecting less than $20). Adjusting the shipping post-auction is unprofessional and actually I'd guess you can report the seller as well for trying to add charges on the back end.
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Old 09-13-2022, 04:15 PM   #7
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I’m not aware of any USPS rules that say it costs extra to ship a card once it hits a sale price of $20 (unless maybe it’s international). Sounds like this may be the seller’s own preference? If so, is there anything in his description that reserves the right for him to upcharge the shipping based on the final sale amount?

I’d also check to see how he says he’s going to ship it for 99 cents (bubble mailer vs. Plain White Envelope)- if it’s PWE and you refuse the up-charge, then he can just decide to send it to you in PWE- not sure if you want that for a $20 card….
Yes, eBay Standard Shipping is capped at $20. That's what he's referring to. Regardless, it shouldn't be adjusted by the seller after the auction ends if that's not what was advertised.
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Old 09-13-2022, 04:17 PM   #8
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I’m not aware of any USPS rules that say it costs extra to ship a card once it hits a sale price of $20 (unless maybe it’s international). Sounds like this may be the seller’s own preference? If so, is there anything in his description that reserves the right for him to upcharge the shipping based on the final sale amount?

I’d also check to see how he says he’s going to ship it for 99 cents (bubble mailer vs. Plain White Envelope)- if it’s PWE and you refuse the up-charge, then he can just decide to send it to you in PWE- not sure if you want that for a $20 card….
Yeah, I was fine with a PWE, so I didn't get his message.
Odd coming from a 5,000+ PERFECT feedback seller.
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Old 09-13-2022, 04:18 PM   #9
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Yes, eBay Standard Shipping is capped at $20. That's what he's referring to. Regardless, it shouldn't be adjusted by the seller after the auction ends if that's not what was advertised.
ah thanks, I didn’t know that. Agree with your conclusion
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Old 09-13-2022, 04:48 PM   #10
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Thats on him. I sell on ebay and sometimes and will list cards for auction with the cheap ebay shipping option thinking it probably ends under $20 but sometimes they end up over $20 and I cover the difference. Its a risk on my end as the seller. Tell him to pound dirt.


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Yeah if you don't think it's going over $20 so you charge ESE shipping and it winds up going over $20, you eat the difference in shipping as good CS practice.
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Old 09-13-2022, 05:23 PM   #11
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Yeah if you don't think it's going over $20 so you charge ESE shipping and it winds up going over $20, you eat the difference in shipping as good CS practice.
That's what I do. It's usually a good thing that it went $20+, so I'm still coming out ahead vs. the card ending at $15, for example.

Tell the seller that in the future he should charge the first class cost and note in the description that he will lower the cost if it ends at $20 or under. Or refund part of the shipping charge. Make it a race to bid $20.00 exactly.

I would not pay more for shipping than what was advertised in the listing. That increase is over 10% of the cost of the card.
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Old 09-13-2022, 06:24 PM   #12
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seller has to eat the cost
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Old 09-13-2022, 08:12 PM   #13
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This is an ebay interface problem.

When listing a card for sale you can specify multiple shipping options and the choices clearly show the ebay standard shipping only applies for sales under $20.

That distinction is never shown to bidders.
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Old 09-13-2022, 10:57 PM   #14
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I would certainly not pay any more than the final bid price plus 99¢ shipping.
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Old 09-14-2022, 05:44 AM   #15
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Seller is trying to get more money out of you. Just tell him you’d like to cancel the sale so he can start from square one and have to resell it again. When he relists, I bet his shipping is the same amount he sold it to you. If it is call eBay and tell them what he’s been doing.
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Old 09-14-2022, 09:30 AM   #16
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Seller is trying to get more money out of you. Just tell him you’d like to cancel the sale so he can start from square one and have to resell it again. When he relists, I bet his shipping is the same amount he sold it to you. If it is call eBay and tell them what he’s been doing.
Bud, let's not act like the seller is trying to create some grand elaborate scheme to get more money out of the buyer. While I agree with others that the seller should eat the cost (I've had to do it myself), it's not something that warrants reporting him to eBay. C'mon man...
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Old 09-14-2022, 01:16 PM   #17
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If the listing said $0.99 shipping then shipping is $0.99. If the seller has a problem with that then you get a refund and they get a negative rating from you. Unfortunately you can't force them to ship it to you for $0.99 but if it's worth it for them get a negative rating for $2.50 then that's their choice. I believe the limit for standard envelope shipping is $20 so yes it will cost more to ship since it went over $20 but the way I look at is the seller obviously wasn't expecting it to go over $20 if they listed it with standard envelope shipping so even if they eat the extra cost they are probably getting more money in their pocket then they expected when they listed it so they shouldn't complain
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Old 09-14-2022, 01:17 PM   #18
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No- if you want the card, pay the fee and rail him on the Feedback. If its a card that you can grab elsewhere, have him cancel the sale- if he pushes back just talk to a CSR, you can't change the terms of a sale when its previously agreed-upon and its against eBay policies
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Old 09-14-2022, 02:02 PM   #19
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Yes, eBay Standard Shipping is capped at $20. That's what he's referring to. Regardless, it shouldn't be adjusted by the seller after the auction ends if that's not what was advertised.
Only capped at $20 for the sale of one card, if multiple cards are won and paid for, the cap is $50. Regardless in this case, seller should have just eaten it. I know I have before with many sales as I am not comfortable sending $50 worth of cards in an envelope.
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Old 09-14-2022, 08:51 PM   #20
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Bud, let's not act like the seller is trying to create some grand elaborate scheme to get more money out of the buyer. While I agree with others that the seller should eat the cost (I've had to do it myself), it's not something that warrants reporting him to eBay. C'mon man...

You’d be surprised at what some of these sellers do on eBay.
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Old 09-15-2022, 09:12 AM   #21
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You’d be surprised at what some of these sellers do on eBay.
I'm not surprised by anything I come across on eBay anymore...just today received a card in that was a $5.00 S/H charge show up in a Stamped PWE and Toploader with no tape. Card was sliding out of the TL but appears to be ok.

Long story short, the situation the OP describes I have been in myself as a seller. And while I don't agree with how the seller approached it, I tend to fall on the side of the seller is not plotting a get rich scheme here.
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Old 09-15-2022, 11:15 AM   #22
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That's ridiculous. Like others, I doubt the seller is purposefully running some nefarious scheme. But I wonder how many times the seller has sent an invoice for more shipping, and the buyer just didn't notice when paying.
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Old 09-15-2022, 04:09 PM   #23
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Yeah, he absolutely needs to eat the cost on that. I've listed plenty of cards that I don't expect to sell for $20+ so I list the shipping as 99 cents. In the chance that they get above $20, I'm happy that they went for more than expected and I'll eat the extra few bucks. Dude sounds like a loser.
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Old 09-16-2022, 09:54 AM   #24
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Yeah, he absolutely needs to eat the cost on that. I've listed plenty of cards that I don't expect to sell for $20+ so I list the shipping as 99 cents. In the chance that they get above $20, I'm happy that they went for more than expected and I'll eat the extra few bucks. Dude sounds like a loser.
He did eat the cost.

It was the email message to tell me that I should have waited until he sent an invoice, like I somehow should have known about the $20 limit.

I was a good buyer, and paid with 5 minutes of it ending.
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Old 09-16-2022, 11:37 AM   #25
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...but the way I look at is the seller obviously wasn't expecting it to go over $20 if they listed it with standard envelope shipping so even if they eat the extra cost they are probably getting more money in their pocket then they expected when they listed it so they shouldn't complain
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This right here ^

The fact that he contacted you about it is just poor customer service on his end, and a bit childish.
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