2022 Topps Chrome Baseball Pre Sale.. thoughts?

[MotorboatJones]

Anyone buying 2022 Topps Chrome at these prices is a fool.

[cardsin47]

Originally Posted by MotorboatJones

Anyone buying 2022 Topps Chrome at these prices is a fool.

I’m in at $299 / Hobby from a BO pre-sale ordered I placed about 5+ months ago. If the checklist was available then like it is now, not so sure I would have hit the order button so quickly, but at $299….. still feel ok

[OneSickDegen]

Originally Posted by rfgilles

So what happens when you rip and don't land the SP, which is the most likely outcome?

2022 Topps Chrome products should come with a giant ice cream cone to sit on after the hard pounding the buyer experiences

Free degen marketing consultation

[RaceDog]

I'm in at a little over $2500 for a case of Jumbo and I am still sweating it a little. On the fence about ripping or flipping. I bought with the intention of ripping, but I'll see what happens next week. Either way I should be good.

[OneSickDegen]

Originally Posted by RaceDog

I'm in at a little over $2500 for a case of Jumbo and I am still sweating it a little. On the fence about ripping or flipping. I bought with the intention of ripping, but I'll see what happens next week. Either way I should be good.

You won’t ever go broke taking a profit

[PDCCollectibles]

In at dist pricing, already pre sold my allocation a couple months ago.....thankfully

[CircleTheWagon]

https://www.bjs.com/product/2022-top...00000004138297


These ever go live on BJs? $35 still probably too much it seems.

[nera20]

What were people expecting

julio, tork, and witt have autos

they have base rookies that will have parallels most likely

they did the same thing in 2019

This is Topps Chrome the checklist is always filled with $1 auto rookies

It's the same old song and dance people paying the stupid markup prices the last two years content never has changed just the price and production

[ATLOTP]

Originally Posted by RaceDog

I'm in at a little over $2500 for a case of Jumbo and I am still sweating it a little. On the fence about ripping or flipping. I bought with the intention of ripping, but I'll see what happens next week. Either way I should be good.

Flip it

[OneSickDegen]

Originally Posted by nera20

What were people expecting

This thread has been chasing it’s tail for months

[cruiserdaddy7]

The hobby vets can easily see what's coming with this release. I feel for those who do not.

[nera20]

Originally Posted by cruiserdaddy7

The hobby vets can easily see what's coming with this release. I feel for those who do not.

Love Topps Chrome but anything over $80 or so for a hobby box is asking for trouble generally.

For like the past 12 years or whatever it has always basically had similar checklist and content.

The gambling aspect of todays box breaking is nuts.

I remember buying 12 box cases for $700-800 and still feel like i took a bloodbath.

The best part of the hobby the last two years has been saving tons and tons of money not buying boxes/cases (not that i bought a ton before).

The contents of boxes/cases is no different now or prepandemic. It's just now breakers/distributors/hobby shops/online shops are trying to profit every dollar they can off of the degenerate gambling.

If people are spending more power to the people selling.

Anyone can do what they want with their money.

I will save mine and buy singles.

[SupermanBrandon]

If you actually want the cards inside the packs (for your collection)…there’s no reason to rip. Buy singles.


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[OneSickDegen]

Originally Posted by cruiserdaddy7

I feel for those who do not.

Prices will come down one way or another but it may not be soon

This has been discussed ad nauseum but I'll reiterate that the days of free money are gone. Since Covid started, tons of people were getting paid enhanced UI benefits, stimmy checks, child tax credits, PPP loan forgiveness, Student loan deferments etc. Those free handouts have mostly stopped for the masses and people are getting back to normal life. By definition this will have a large impact on discretionary spending. Less money is sloshing around.

Furthermore, people are spending their money on necessities thanks to rising inflation. Rents, food, gas, etc are continuing to climb. We are already beginning to see people using credit cards in record numbers.

I'd guess for the short term you won't see a ton of price drops while the economy is humming along and unemployment is low but as the fed continues to raise rates and while implementing QT, things can and probably will get pretty bad in the economy in the next 12 months. I just think there will be a much different landscape if and when we hit a deep recession.

I've lived thru the dotcom bubble and gfc and I don't think a lot of current sportscards market participants have ever lived through a recessionary environment market as adults. Things get bad quick.

[OneSickDegen]

Originally Posted by SupermanBrandon

…there’s no reason to rip. Buy singles.

It's been working pretty well for me. It's also wayyy more enjoyable to put together a buy list and reduce the attack vector a bit.

[nera20]

Originally Posted by OneSickDegen

Prices will come down one way or another but it may not be soon

This has been discussed ad nauseum but I'll reiterate that the days of free money are gone. Since Covid started, tons of people were getting paid enhanced UI benefits, stimmy checks, child tax credits, PPP loan forgiveness, Student loan deferments etc. Those free handouts have mostly stopped for the masses and people are getting back to normal life. By definition this will have a large impact on discretionary spending. Less money is sloshing around.

Furthermore, people are spending their money on necessities thanks to rising inflation. Rents, food, gas, etc are continuing to climb. We are already beginning to see people using credit cards in record numbers.

I'd guess for the short term you won't see a ton of price drops while the economy is humming along and unemployment is low but as the fed continues to raise rates and while implementing QT, things can and probably will get pretty bad in the economy in the next 12 months. I just think there will be a much different landscape if and when we hit a deep recession.

I've lived thru the dotcom bubble and gfc and I don't think a lot of current sportscards market participants have ever lived through a recessionary environment market as adults. Things get bad quick.

You are spot on with everything you have said here.

Alot of people I would say 70-80 percent in the hobby will feel the recessionary issues.

The top percentile with the high end will most likely maintain pretty well.

People made a ton of money in cards the past few years.

Thing is though when you see all the profits they made then they show you the Ferrari they bought they basically lost all profits driving off the lot.

[OneSickDegen]

Originally Posted by nera20

People made a ton of money in cards the past few years.

Thing is though when you see all the profits they made then they show you the Ferrari they bought they basically lost all profits driving off the lot.

I have an acquaintance that is that guy you are talking about. Pumping doge and other sh!tcoins since mid 2020 he didn't sell at the peak, of course. No one does. So he's still up but nothing like in Feb 2021 lol.

[nera20]

Originally Posted by OneSickDegen

I have an acquaintance that is that guy you are talking about. Pumping doge and other sh!tcoins since mid 2020 he didn't sell at the peak, of course. No one does. So he's still up but nothing like in Feb 2021 lol.

I guess its just cause I am older but I would have saved all the profits and either just kept it in the bank or buy something that has a chance to maintain or go up in value.

Buying status products like cars, jewelry, things like this that generally lose money as soon as you buy them isnt the smartest move. Everyone has to learn though.

[OneSickDegen]

Originally Posted by nera20

I guess its just cause I am older but I would have saved all the profits and either just kept it in the bank or buy something that has a chance to maintain or go up in value.

Buying status products like cars, jewelry, things like this that generally lose money as soon as you buy them isnt the smartest move. Everyone has to learn though.

in 10 years we are gonna look back at all this and just be like WOW

[Chrominator]

Originally Posted by nera20

Buying status products like cars, jewelry, things like this that generally lose money as soon as you buy them isnt the smartest move. Everyone has to learn though.

Agreed, except for select timepieces (these can grow in value)

You can collect cars but it's utterly expensive to buy and deliver one with out ever having any fuels or liquids added to it, and then keep it preserved in an air-controlled garage—never seeing any UV rays or rain

But in all seriousness, the only things worth obtaining are land and friends.

[cruiserdaddy7]

This stuff will easily halve in price. I think it will happen quick. Economy, season ending, and far too difficult to hit cards of value.

[OneSickDegen]

Originally Posted by cruiserdaddy7

This stuff will easily halve in price. I think it will happen quick. Economy, season ending, and far too difficult to hit cards of value.

Agreed. Releasing a baseball product at the moment we have reached peak NFL hype doesn't help the cause for Topps.

[315er]

Originally Posted by CircleTheWagon

https://www.bjs.com/product/2022-top...00000004138297


These ever go live on BJs? $35 still probably too much it seems.

Not yet.
Wonder if they'll be in store?
And compared to places like Dick's selling blasters over $40, this may be the cheapest price you'll see.

[dodgerfanjohn]

Originally Posted by OneSickDegen

Prices will come down one way or another but it may not be soon

This has been discussed ad nauseum but I'll reiterate that the days of free money are gone. Since Covid started, tons of people were getting paid enhanced UI benefits, stimmy checks, child tax credits, PPP loan forgiveness, Student loan deferments etc. Those free handouts have mostly stopped for the masses and people are getting back to normal life. By definition this will have a large impact on discretionary spending. Less money is sloshing around.

Furthermore, people are spending their money on necessities thanks to rising inflation. Rents, food, gas, etc are continuing to climb. We are already beginning to see people using credit cards in record numbers.

I'd guess for the short term you won't see a ton of price drops while the economy is humming along and unemployment is low but as the fed continues to raise rates and while implementing QT, things can and probably will get pretty bad in the economy in the next 12 months. I just think there will be a much different landscape if and when we hit a deep recession.

I've lived thru the dotcom bubble and gfc and I don't think a lot of current sportscards market participants have ever lived through a recessionary environment market as adults. Things get bad quick.

If you factor in SS, Federal & State tax withholding, etc people were getting paid around $40-50k cash in a year by the government which roughly comes to $60-70k before deductions….more money than many of the recipients have ever seen in their life. Sport cards seemed to be a real good outlet considering a lot of entertainment options were removed during that time.

[Lonewolf]

So Julio, Witt, and Torkelson are SPs? Pfffft, easy pass on this overpriced crap.

Wander and Cruz can't carry this by themselves...