What will happen to Bonds record breaking stats?? - Page 4

cnewby · 09-07-2022, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by rats60

...lots of words....

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Originally Posted by fabiani12333

Uhh, sorry -- you're wrong.

Now you've done it!

JRX · 09-07-2022, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by clocsta2323

Did you really call Joe Morgan a sanctimonious clown?

I thought that's what it said on the sash he wore.

fabiani12333 · 09-07-2022, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by discostu

I did. Do you disagree?

"This has been one of baseball's best seasons, one marked by outstanding individual accomplishments -- from Alex Rodriguez to Sammy Sosa to Luis Gonzalez to Bret Boone. But Bonds, with or without 71 home runs, has far surpassed them all." (Seriously, he typed this.)
- Joe Morgan October 5, 2005

"The more we Hall of Famers talk about this -and we talk about it a lot-we realize we can no longer sit silent. Many of us have come to think that silence will be considered complicity." (Seriously, same guy.)
- Joe Morgan November 21, 2017

Did Morgan seriously say that a full year after Bonds' grand jury testimony was leaked?:
https://www.sfgate.com/sports/articl...ry-2667365.php

Never speak ill will of the dead, but my gawd.

Biohazarddfl · 09-07-2022, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by johnlocke36

I don't know a single sports fan in real life that doesn't take his records seriously. Everyone I know who is interested in sports, or played at a very high level themselves say everybody else was on steroids also, all the pitchers he was facing were on steroids, it was an even playing field and nobody came close to putting up his stats

Keep making excuses. We all know the truth. I'm sorry that your cards and memorabilia will be worthless.

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babybull · 09-07-2022, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by cardsin47

Geez….. top spots are like a successful steroids commercial

Not a surprise. That's why these guys used them.

discostu · 09-07-2022, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by fabiani12333

Did Morgan seriously say that a full year after Bonds' grand jury testimony was leaked?:
https://www.sfgate.com/sports/articl...ry-2667365.php

Never speak ill will of the dead, but my gawd.

It was a typo on my part. 2001, not 2005.

bulljh · 09-07-2022, 08:12 PM

it's funny that everyone is a saint until they get popped for PEDs. How do you know Judge isn't taking them?

cnewby · 09-07-2022, 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by bulljh

it's funny that everyone is a saint until they get popped for PEDs. How do you know Judge isn't taking them?

Probably is. Just give him the asterisk now.

Biohazarddfl · 09-07-2022, 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by bulljh

it's funny that everyone is a saint until they get popped for PEDs. How do you know Judge isn't taking them?

Sure it is possible. We all saw Bonds seemingly double in size before our eyes. Judge on the other hand has always been a gargantuan human.

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jeff152380 · 09-07-2022, 09:14 PM

If you want to bitch about 90's players on PEDS and think you know 100% Roger Maris, Hank Aaron didnt do a form of PEDS your in your own cloud of smoke. People just get so sided with the opinion they want to support in baseball.

Had a signing in my store with former MLB player from 70's-80's and he said for every player you think did PEDS times it by 25. Including many of the untouchable pretty boys of the sport. Past and Present. The Media brainwashed you all into just looking at who they want you too.... SO SO many have got a free ride past all this......

For the people who think steroid were invented in the 90's you might want to look up when they were invented... Your boys of the golden era certainly could of had access.

Barry Bonds is one of the top players ever to play the game period.

Records are meant to be broken.

Biohazarddfl · 09-07-2022, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by jeff152380

If you want to bitch about 90's players on PEDS and think you know 100% Roger Maris, Hank Aaron didnt do a form of PEDS your in your own cloud of smoke. People just get so sided with the opinion they want to support in baseball.

Had a signing in my store with former MLB player from 70's-80's and he said for every player you think did PEDS times it by 25. Including many of the untouchable pretty boys of the sport. Past and Present. The Media brainwashed you all into just looking at who they want you too.... SO SO many have got a free ride past all this......

For the people who think steroid were invented in the 90's you might want to look up when they were invented... Your boys of the golden era certainly could of had access.

Barry Bonds is one of the top players ever to play the game period.

Records are meant to be broken.

How many increased their mass the way Bonds did, right before our eyes? I'd say that's a pretty reasonable standard to know who did what, no?

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fabiani12333 · 09-07-2022, 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Biohazarddfl

How many increased their mass the way Bonds did, right before our eyes? I'd say that's a pretty reasonable standard to know who did what, no?

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Rafael Palmeiro tested positive for a steroid and was suspended -- did he dramatically grow in size?

Bonds reportedly used HGH, which can cause body mass to grow.

Biohazarddfl · 09-08-2022, 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by fabiani12333

Rafael Palmeiro tested positive for a steroid and was suspended -- did he dramatically grow in size?

Bonds reportedly used HGH, which can cause body mass to grow.

That's not the point. Obviously anyone that tests positive is done for in the eyes of fans and voters. What Bonds did was take it to an unprecedented level. He made a mockery of everything. This is why no one cares about him. I'm sorry to be the bearer of bad news. Most just ignore these threads and let you all live in delusion.

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fabiani12333 · 09-08-2022, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Biohazarddfl

That's not the point. Obviously anyone that tests positive is done for in the eyes of fans and voters. What Bonds did was take it to an unprecedented level. He made a mockery of everything. This is why no one cares about him. I'm sorry to be the bearer of bad news. Most just ignore these threads and let you all live in delusion.

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Well, guess what? I don't care anymore either.

k13 · 09-08-2022, 11:07 AM

Steroids have been used since the 50s in sports.
Stop being so ignorant people.

Your heros are dirty too.

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jeff152380 Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Vermont Posts: 2,791 Main-Street-Sports-Cards-Vt mainstreetsportscardsvt	If you want to bitch about 90's players on PEDS and think you know 100% Roger Maris, Hank Aaron didnt do a form of PEDS your in your own cloud of smoke. People just get so sided with the opinion they want to support in baseball. Had a signing in my store with former MLB player from 70's-80's and he said for every player you think did PEDS times it by 25. Including many of the untouchable pretty boys of the sport. Past and Present. The Media brainwashed you all into just looking at who they want you too.... SO SO many have got a free ride past all this...... For the people who think steroid were invented in the 90's you might want to look up when they were invented... Your boys of the golden era certainly could of had access. Barry Bonds is one of the top players ever to play the game period. Records are meant to be broken. __________________ Owner of MAIN STREET SPORTS CARDS In Vermont

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bulljh Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Sparks, NV Posts: 6,236 bulljh	it's funny that everyone is a saint until they get popped for PEDs. How do you know Judge isn't taking them?

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k13 Banned Join Date: Jan 2014 Posts: 12,617	Steroids have been used since the 50s in sports. Stop being so ignorant people. Your heros are dirty too.