Fernando Tatis Jr

[seanrs1]

Originally Posted by hermanotarjeta

You are correct. No one will ever know the truth but Tatis.

But his name and play have been tainted for life because of this situation.

And he should be blaming no one but himself.

So why continue collecting him versus, say, acuna, Soto, vladdy, Jrod, Wander, Robert, etc?

I am correct!!! I already collect all those other guys.

[hermanotarjeta]

Originally Posted by seanrs1

I am correct!!! I already collect all those other guys.

Glad you didn’t go all-in on Tatis like some dudes on here.

[Baseball Fury]

Originally Posted by tchronis24

True. Just going off the fact that I believe he passed a drug test in march, and that he most likely started taking while hurt to speed up the recovery. And he hasn’t played since last year and hurt himself in December.

I’m giving Tatis the benefit of the doubt here. He has had a nagging shoulder injury that the Padres refused, at least to my understanding, to have him undergo surgery for the sake of competing with the Dodgers. He more than likely took PEDs to recover faster and get back on the field.

I do believe there is a difference between this action and taking PEDs while actively playing (ie Barry Bonds, Mark McGuire). If he slips up again, then yes he deserves the negative backlash. I think people are blowing this out of proportion because he has been hyped to be the future face of the MLB.

[seanrs1]

Originally Posted by hermanotarjeta

Glad you didn’t go all-in on Tatis like some dudes on here.

I bought at the peak 2020-2021...so I have lost just as much in value with those players as I have with Tatis just about.

[hermanotarjeta]

Originally Posted by seanrs1

I bought at the peak 2020-2021...so I have lost just as much in value with those players as I have with Tatis just about.

But those other players don’t have the huge monkey on their back.

Doesn’t cutting ties with Tatis and buying the others on the dip make more sense?

[BonVoyage]

Originally Posted by Baseball Fury

I’m giving Tatis the benefit of the doubt here. He has had a nagging shoulder injury that the Padres refused, at least to my understanding, to have him undergo surgery for the sake of competing with the Dodgers. He more than likely took PEDs to recover faster and get back on the field.

I do believe there is a difference between this action and taking PEDs while actively playing (ie Barry Bonds, Mark McGuire). If he slips up again, then yes he deserves the negative backlash. I think people are blowing this out of proportion because he has been hyped to be the future face of the MLB.

If you’re going to give him the benefit of the doubt, just believe his story: He had a skin irritation and used an OTC cream available in the DR without consulting a doctor.

Also, I think the Pads were pro-surgery.


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[hermanotarjeta]

Originally Posted by BonVoyage

If you’re going to give him the benefit of the doubt, just believe his story: He had a skin irritation and used an OTC cream available in the DR without consulting a doctor.

Also, I think the Pads were pro-surgery.


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The padres were definitely pro-surgery.

Tatis refused.

[Randallk34]

Originally Posted by towerymt

I heard he's toast. Toast might put up a 40/40 season some day and then we'll see what happens to his card values.

This story isn't over. He isn't done playing baseball.

Well when that someday happens it's because he's a cheater, no one should take anything he does on a baseball field seriously ever again. He's a tainted cheater now.

[hermanotarjeta]

Originally Posted by Bcr

It's apparent a handful of people on Blowout have personal vendettas against him and his card values.

95% of the “Tatis clectors” that used to be on here have completely vanished.

What happened?

[Baseball Fury]

Originally Posted by BonVoyage

If you’re going to give him the benefit of the doubt, just believe his story: He had a skin irritation and used an OTC cream available in the DR without consulting a doctor.

Also, I think the Pads were pro-surgery.


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I’m only giving him the benefit of the doubt because he was caught while on the IL and not actively playing. Otherwise my tune would be different if he was active.

Originally Posted by hermanotarjeta

The padres were definitely pro-surgery.

Tatis refused.

Got it, thank you for clarifying.

[SupermanBrandon]

Originally Posted by Bcr

It's apparent a handful of people on Blowout have personal vendettas against him and his card values.

Or...those members are giving FREE advice. "Investors" will make you think he will turn it around. Prices will soar above peak. He will be in the HOF. Nothing to worry about or see. You're welcome!

[NYRE2PECT]

Originally Posted by hermanotarjeta

95% of the “Tatis clectors” that used to be on here have completely vanished.

What happened?

I'm a Tatis collector, but I ain't got much to say about Senor Ringworm. I am not super confident about moving forward (will not be buying)... nor am I ready to cut it all loose at a 75% discount. If somebody wants to avail me of my Tatis collection at 75% of my cost, I probably wouldn't pass it up just so that I wouldn't have to worry about it/him anymore.

There is so much smoke-blowing going on anymore it's hard to see.

[Randallk34]

Originally Posted by Baseball Fury

I’m only giving him the benefit of the doubt because he was caught while on the IL and not actively playing. Otherwise my tune would be different if he was active.



Got it, thank you for clarifying.

I mean, we are like 30 years into the steroid era and people still got their heads in the sand. His dad was a roid head too bro, it's ok, I had to watch a roid head cheat on my team for 10 years too, it sucks. Just accept it and move on, stop defending the cheaters.

[Cards and 401K]

At least Vladdy Jr was out of shape he turned it around last year. Wonder how many false PED positives happen and was he retested?? Unfortunately other players know how to beat the system and remain unscathed…


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[hermanotarjeta]

Originally Posted by Baseball Fury

I’m giving Tatis the benefit of the doubt here. He has had a nagging shoulder injury that the Padres refused, at least to my understanding, to have him undergo surgery for the sake of competing with the Dodgers. He more than likely took PEDs to recover faster and get back on the field.

I do believe there is a difference between this action and taking PEDs while actively playing (ie Barry Bonds, Mark McGuire). If he slips up again, then yes he deserves the negative backlash. I think people are blowing this out of proportion because he has been hyped to be the future face of the MLB.

Forget about it.

Even the OP has bailed from his own thread and sold off his cards.

No single player is bigger than the team, and no single player is bigger than the Sanctity of the sport.

Tatis is done.

Salvage some money while you still can.

[cardsin47]

Originally Posted by Baseball Fury

I’m giving Tatis the benefit of the doubt here. He has had a nagging shoulder injury that the Padres refused, at least to my understanding, to have him undergo surgery for the sake of competing with the Dodgers. He more than likely took PEDs to recover faster and get back on the field.

I do believe there is a difference between this action and taking PEDs while actively playing (ie Barry Bonds, Mark McGuire). If he slips up again, then yes he deserves the negative backlash. I think people are blowing this out of proportion because he has been hyped to be the future face of the MLB.

You will be sitting at a table for 1 for a loooooong time

[k13]

Originally Posted by Bcr

It's apparent a handful of people on Blowout have personal vendettas against him and his card values.

People love seeing others lose money especially in "easy" investments.
Nothing makes someone happier than that.

Plus the money can now go to "their" players....

[hermanotarjeta]

Originally Posted by k13

People love seeing others lose money especially in "easy" investments.
Nothing makes someone happier than that.

Plus the money can now go to "their" players....

Some people also hate seeing other people lose money on pumped investments.

Bringing the truth to light can hurt, but it can also save people a lot of cash if they will listen to good advice.

Then again, you collect who you are, and that is sometimes unfixable.

[brios8]

Originally Posted by hermanotarjeta

Some people also hate seeing other people lose money on pumped investments.

Bringing the truth to light can hurt, but it can also save people a lot of cash if they will listen to good advice.

Then again, you collect who you are, and that is sometimes unfixable.

You have mentioned you dont even own cards.. so how is that you think you have the best advice every single time. If you knew which are the best investments and which are just pumps then you would be dealing with cards being very successful and not just talking.

[Baseball Fury]

Originally Posted by Randallk34

I mean, we are like 30 years into the steroid era and people still got their heads in the sand. His dad was a roid head too bro, it's ok, I had to watch a roid head cheat on my team for 10 years too, it sucks. Just accept it and move on, stop defending the cheaters.

I saw a roided Bonds demolish my Dodgers. Now a lot of people have a soft spot for Bonds, even people advocating for him to get into the HoF. Also one of my favorite players growing up, Eric Gagne, got busted for PEDs. Now I don’t even mention Gagne when talking about the 00’s Dodgers.

I don’t know much about Tatis’ Dad nor did I invest in Tatis’ rookie card. I’m not as angry as the lot of you on Tatis, but taking PEDs while on the IL is a lot less impactful than someone actively playing to get an edge.

[hermanotarjeta]

Originally Posted by brios8

You have mentioned you dont even own cards.. so how is that you think you have the best advice every single time. If you knew which are the best investments and which are just pumps then you would be dealing with cards being very successful and not just talking.

Huh?

Of course I own cards. Maybe at the time I responded to you I had no baseball cards in hand, but I just opened a case of 2021 topps chrome anniversary platinum edition hobby version this past weekend and had a blast.

All I bring is years of hobby experience and advice to others from my perspective. If it may go against your motives, sorry, but I tell it like it is to help people from falling prey to pumpers.

The general public has the right to hear about both sides of an argument so they can make their own educated decision regarding card purchases.

I’m simply trying to help people from getting duped by fraudsters and sales promoters in this hobby.

Like I said before, if you don’t agree with my perspective, there is a simple solution - do the opposite. Load up on Tatis cards, please!

[brios8]

Originally Posted by hermanotarjeta

Huh?

Of course I own cards. Maybe at the time I responded to you I had no baseball cards in hand, but I just opened a case of 2021 topps chrome anniversary platinum edition hobby version this past weekend and had a blast.

All I bring is years of hobby experience and advice to others from my perspective. If it may go against your motives, sorry, but I tell it like it is to help people from falling prey to pumpers.

The general public has the right to hear about both sides of an argument so they can make their own educated decision regarding card purchases.

I’m simply trying to help people from getting duped by fraudsters and sales promoters in this hobby.

Like I said before, if you don’t agree with my perspective, there is a simple solution - do the opposite!

Sure you can give your point of view. but 99% of the time you will attack the player-product or whatever it is. Stating everyone is dumb and you have the absolute knowledge.. its quite impressive with all the negativity you share

Seems as if you were paid to cause controversy here and make everyone get rid of all their cards lol

[hermanotarjeta]

Originally Posted by brios8

Sure you can give your point of view. but 99% of the time you will attack the player-product or whatever it is. Stating everyone is dumb and you have the absolute knowledge.. its quite impressive with all the negativity you share

Seems as if you were paid to cause controversy here and make everyone get rid of all their cards lol

I will tell it like I see it.

If a product/player is worthwhile for purchase, I will voice my opinion about it. I got a case of 2021 topps chrome platinum at $90/box and recommend this product as a good value break for the price.

However, if I see a player or product that is far overvalued, I will try to warn others about it - I hate seeing people overpay for things and pumpers are out there to separate you from your money.

You pump a product because you want to maximize profits.

I pump a product because I think it’s a good value.

So who has the better intention here?

[Triple B]

Originally Posted by k13

People love seeing others lose money especially in "easy" investments.
Nothing makes someone happier than that.

Plus the money can now go to "their" players....

This is probably the smartest (and truest) thing you've said in all of the posts of yours that I have read.

[Chris P]

Originally Posted by Triple B

This is probably the smartest (and truest) thing you've said in all of the posts of yours that I have read.

Yep...i actually agree with K13...thanks Tatis