Stolen Box Sapphire Box

Csmontie · 08-12-2022, 06:05 AM

Hey Everyone

I recently sent out a 2022 Bowman sapphire box to a myslabs customer and he received it then sent me request for help since the box he received had nothing in it except the packaging material. He said it was fully sealed had not been pampered with and when he opened it, the box was empty.

Unfortunately I thought I sent with insurance but only sent with signature confirmation. I have the receipt that I sent it from the post office when they scanned it in and it does show that it weighed 8.5 oz. So someone opened stole the bo and re-sealed it.

This looks like I'll be sending a refund as I do not think I have any other options. Any suggestions or next steps I may try feel free to comment.

Finally I'm asking if anyone comes across a bowman sapphire box with the code shown in the picture (see below) please LMK thank you Craig

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hammertime · 08-12-2022, 07:20 AM

Sounds like the buyer is scamming you. I would reach out to the Myslabs team and see what they recommend. The fact that he admitted it was sealed and didn't look tampered with should help you I think.

rippev · 08-12-2022, 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by hammertime

Sounds like the buyer is scamming you. I would reach out to the Myslabs team and see what they recommend. The fact that he admitted it was sealed and didn't look tampered with should help you I think.

This would be my first thought, as well. Hope that you get to the bottom of it.

Bambino22 · 08-12-2022, 07:26 AM

I thought same thing.

But I think you need to clarify. What was fully sealed that he opened? The Sapphire Box or the shipping box?Extremely suspicious if he opened an empty Sapphire Box.

But I think you just meant he opened the outer shipping box. Which all of us would probably do even if the weight seamed off.

Does MySlabs give you ratings on the buyer? Like ebay with their stars.

Csmontie · 08-12-2022, 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Bambino22

I thought same thing.

But I think you need to clarify. What was fully sealed that he opened? The Sapphire Box or the shipping box?Extremely suspicious if he opened an empty Sapphire Box.

But I think you just meant he opened the outer shipping box. Which all of us would probably do even if the weight seamed off.

Does MySlabs give you ratings on the buyer? Like ebay with their stars.

He said the outer shipping box was sealed and when he opened it there was nothing inside so the Sapphire box was missing. What concerns me is he is saying that the packaging box doesnt appear to be tampered with, and no sign of additional tape. this doesnt make sense to me there has to be some sign

Hammer and ripp I did reach out to the myslabs team for there view on this I'll keep you all posted

thanks Craig

Bosoxfan5990 · 08-12-2022, 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Csmontie

He said the outer shipping box was sealed and when he opened it there was nothing inside so the Sapphire box was missing. What concerns me is he is saying that the packaging box doesnt appear to be tampered with, and no sign of additional tape. this doesnt make sense to me there has to be some sign

Hammer and ripp I did reach out to the myslabs team for there view on this I'll keep you all posted

thanks Craig

Wasn't there recently a case with Phil Hughes that confirmed the PO should have the weight upon delivery as well?

OneSickDegen · 08-12-2022, 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Bosoxfan5990

Wasn't there recently a case with Phil Hughes that confirmed the PO should have the weight upon delivery as well?

Yes. check his Twitter. it's documented pretty well what his steps were I believe.

MoreToppsPlease · 08-12-2022, 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Bosoxfan5990

Wasn't there recently a case with Phil Hughes that confirmed the PO should have the weight upon delivery as well?

I’m thinking it wouldn’t matter as the thief could try to replace the weight.

But if the box were empty…

panamamyers · 08-12-2022, 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Csmontie

Hey Everyone

I recently sent out a 2022 Bowman sapphire box to a myslabs customer and he received it then sent me request for help since the box he received had nothing in it except the packaging material. He said it was fully sealed had not been pampered with and when he opened it, the box was empty.

Unfortunately I thought I sent with insurance but only sent with signature confirmation. I have the receipt that I sent it from the post office when they scanned it in and it does show that it weighed 8.5 oz. So someone opened stole the bo and re-sealed it.

This looks like I'll be sending a refund as I do not think I have any other options. Any suggestions or next steps I may try feel free to comment.

Finally I'm asking if anyone comes across a bowman sapphire box with the code shown in the picture (see below) please LMK thank you Craig

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The only person that's going to come across a box with that code is the guy you sent it to and maybe his trash guy after he has thrown the empty box away.
Hopefully the guy will go to jail if it's easily proven he took it.

Csmontie · 08-12-2022, 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by OneSickDegen

Yes. check his Twitter. it's documented pretty well what his steps were I believe.

i'm going to the post office during lunch this and ask if they can confirm the weight prior to delivery .... BTW what is Phil Hughes twitter ID

Bosoxfan5990 · 08-12-2022, 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Csmontie

i'm going to the post office during lunch this and ask if they can confirm the weight prior to delivery .... BTW what is Phil Hughes twitter ID

PJHughes45

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Csmontie · 08-12-2022, 12:05 PM

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PJHughes45

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thank you I found him but I couldnt send a message because his Twitter acct is locked so hopefully he'll accept and I can ask what he did. The clerk at the Post office was not aware of knowing the weight of the package before it gets delivered, so I'll have to wait and talk to Kristian

ALBASKETBALL · 08-12-2022, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Csmontie

thank you I found him but I couldnt send a message because his Twitter acct is locked so hopefully he'll accept and I can ask what he did. The clerk at the Post office was not aware of knowing the weight of the package before it gets delivered, so I'll have to wait and talk to Kristian

Talk to the postmaster.

RL 1953 · 08-12-2022, 12:51 PM

8.5 oz shipping weight seems light for a box,

hammertime · 08-12-2022, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by RL 1953

8.5 oz shipping weight seems light for a box,

It's Sapphire...there's like 30 cards in the box.

Csmontie · 08-12-2022, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by hammertime

It's Sapphire...there's like 30 cards in the box.

Yep they dont weigh much I just weighed a Sapphire box ... just under 5 oz

blackbears86 · 08-12-2022, 03:22 PM

OP: I'd tell the buyer you will be filing a report with the police and post office regarding theft of the box.

It might not get you anywhere, but it may put a scare into him. It sounds like he's scamming.

SyrNy1960 · 08-12-2022, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by blackbears86

OP: I'd tell the buyer you will be filing a report with the police and post office regarding theft of the box.

It might not get you anywhere, but it may put a scare into him. It sounds like he's scamming.

… and mention the receipt reflects the weight when shipped. That should put a scare into the person

soicanbefree · 08-12-2022, 07:18 PM

I had this happen to me.

Bottom of the box was cut open and resealed.

BRob1 · 08-12-2022, 07:33 PM

I thought in phil’s case the scammer had told him what the weight was when he received it as opposed to the post office telling him. I could be wrong though.

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Neal · 08-12-2022, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by hammertime

Sounds like the buyer is scamming you. I would reach out to the Myslabs team and see what they recommend. The fact that he admitted it was sealed and didn't look tampered with should help you I think.

Agreed

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hammertime · 08-12-2022, 08:27 PM

I had someone try to scam me on eBay once, I sold a gold coin and he said it was fake, then mailed back an empty box. I was tempted to stop all communication but I kept responding to him and he kept changing his story and contradicting himself. It may be worth trying to keep him talking to see if his story starts unraveling.

08-12-2022, 06:05 AM	#1
Csmontie Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Posts: 1,607	Stolen Box Sapphire Box Hey Everyone I recently sent out a 2022 Bowman sapphire box to a myslabs customer and he received it then sent me request for help since the box he received had nothing in it except the packaging material. He said it was fully sealed had not been pampered with and when he opened it, the box was empty. Unfortunately I thought I sent with insurance but only sent with signature confirmation. I have the receipt that I sent it from the post office when they scanned it in and it does show that it weighed 8.5 oz. So someone opened stole the bo and re-sealed it. This looks like I'll be sending a refund as I do not think I have any other options. Any suggestions or next steps I may try feel free to comment. Finally I'm asking if anyone comes across a bowman sapphire box with the code shown in the picture (see below) please LMK thank you Craig

08-12-2022, 07:26 AM	#4
Bambino22 Member Join Date: Oct 2020 Location: NoVA Posts: 2,527	I thought same thing. But I think you need to clarify. What was fully sealed that he opened? The Sapphire Box or the shipping box?Extremely suspicious if he opened an empty Sapphire Box. But I think you just meant he opened the outer shipping box. Which all of us would probably do even if the weight seamed off. Does MySlabs give you ratings on the buyer? Like ebay with their stars. __________________ I collect Juan Soto, Yordan Alvarez, and Marco Luciano. Looking for Yordan Alvarez /5 2020 Sterling Auto.

08-12-2022, 07:20 AM	#2
hammertime Member Join Date: May 2020 Location: OH->MI->MD->VA Posts: 6,486	Sounds like the buyer is scamming you. I would reach out to the Myslabs team and see what they recommend. The fact that he admitted it was sealed and didn't look tampered with should help you I think.

08-12-2022, 12:51 PM	#14
RL 1953 Member Join Date: Aug 2019 Location: Michigan Posts: 969	8.5 oz shipping weight seems light for a box,

08-12-2022, 03:22 PM	#17
blackbears86 Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: maine Posts: 17,033 blackbears86	OP: I'd tell the buyer you will be filing a report with the police and post office regarding theft of the box. It might not get you anywhere, but it may put a scare into him. It sounds like he's scamming.

08-12-2022, 07:18 PM	#19
soicanbefree Member Join Date: Mar 2020 Posts: 698	I had this happen to me. Bottom of the box was cut open and resealed.

08-12-2022, 07:33 PM	#20
BRob1 Member Join Date: Jul 2020 Posts: 7,116	I thought in phil’s case the scammer had told him what the weight was when he received it as opposed to the post office telling him. I could be wrong though. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

08-12-2022, 08:27 PM	#22
hammertime Member Join Date: May 2020 Location: OH->MI->MD->VA Posts: 6,486	I had someone try to scam me on eBay once, I sold a gold coin and he said it was fake, then mailed back an empty box. I was tempted to stop all communication but I kept responding to him and he kept changing his story and contradicting himself. It may be worth trying to keep him talking to see if his story starts unraveling.